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I'm just an average gypsy AMA

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GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:36

I've noticed a lot of hatred towards gypsies on here so I thought I'd answer any questions anyone may have that could help you to understand my culture more. You might still disagree with many aspects, but at least you'll be coming from facts and not stereotypes.

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GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:39

nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:28

I also don’t like that the eldest son (unless disabled because he wouldn’t count) gets the most food, and gold and things and the youngest (girl) gets starved rather than denying the eldest. Here you can see who the eldest son is because he is the fattest. Madness, in my eyes.

Where on earth have you heard that nonsense? 🤣

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nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:40

Anonymous2025 · 24/04/2024 15:28

You will be called racist as she is not replying to the questions we actually have similar to this 🤷🏻‍♀️

I know.. read my other post after this one. I thought that woman at my uni was very wise.

nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:43

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:39

Where on earth have you heard that nonsense? 🤣

It’s not nonsense, it’s the truth. Laughing emoji or not. It’s a problem here, and teacher’s are educated to look out for it. So you can remove your laughing emoji, because it’s not even funny. And it is very difficult doing something about it as the culture is so strong.

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 15:43

InsolentNoise · 23/04/2024 23:11

I really respected how the girls were not to be alone with a boy. I don’t mean to be antagonistic but there is a great deal of promiscuity in today’s society.

I am not a prude, by any means. And I’m not looking for an argument re casual sex.

I would prefer my DC to have a long-term relationship.

And I admired the girls for being house-proud.
Yes, they could stay in school and get a good job but it’s not what they do.

It’s difficult to explain what I mean, really.
I think what I’m trying to say is that I respect the decisions they make re marriage and keeping a home.

Both the young men and women seemed to be fully committed to their role and I think that is what I admire.
Sorry if I haven’t explained the very well.

but doesn't their upbringing railroad them into those decisions?

Definitelynotem · 24/04/2024 15:45

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 15:43

but doesn't their upbringing railroad them into those decisions?

Indeed, you can’t be much else than committed to being a housewife if you have no GCSEs or access to formal education!

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 15:45

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:12

I find it really interesting that the education thing is what's caused the most conversation. It's just so normal to me and it seems completely unfathomable to you all.

because it removes choice. Its a crab bucket.

WittiestUsernameEver · 24/04/2024 15:47

murasaki · 24/04/2024 15:28

Interesting that you say on the one hand that you're not identifiable as a gypsy, and on the other that you are asked to pay before eating etc. Which is it?

As much as it sounds dreadful, you can tell a gypsy a mile off.

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:49

nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:43

It’s not nonsense, it’s the truth. Laughing emoji or not. It’s a problem here, and teacher’s are educated to look out for it. So you can remove your laughing emoji, because it’s not even funny. And it is very difficult doing something about it as the culture is so strong.

I don't know who you're talking about but that does not happen amongst the gypsies in the UK.

Maybe back in Charles Dickens time?

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murasaki · 24/04/2024 15:50

WittiestUsernameEver · 24/04/2024 15:47

As much as it sounds dreadful, you can tell a gypsy a mile off.

But the Op claims this isn't true, and yet complains about being stereotyped in advance. Both those positions can't be correct....

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:51

WildFlowerBees · 24/04/2024 15:32

Interesting thread, op is it harder now to keep the younger ones growing up as part of the gypsy community and way of life or do they all grow up knowing that this is the way and they don't look at other options of breaking away and living a completely different life?

Hmm, tricky question. Times anf traditions are always changing and our life today is very different from even the one out grandparents had. But most of them are proud of what they are and enjoy our lifestyle, especially the social occasions which young people love.

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WittiestUsernameEver · 24/04/2024 15:51

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:20

Personal choice after doing my own research

Yup. I'm sure you have definitely been reading peer reviewed medical publications and have an excellent understanding of statistics, utilising your decades long research skills acquisition... what with all that further, academically rigourous education you have received after leaving school at 12...

totk · 24/04/2024 15:51

Hi, OP. If a gypsy woman didn't want to marry for whatever reason, would it be likely she'd stay with her parents or would she likely move out and live on a single basis?

fieldsofbutterflies · 24/04/2024 15:51

Definitelynotem · 24/04/2024 15:45

Indeed, you can’t be much else than committed to being a housewife if you have no GCSEs or access to formal education!

Well, quite, but OP seems to be ignoring all the posts that point that out!

mrsrobin · 24/04/2024 15:52

I am enjoying your thread OP. I had a gypsy friend a long time ago and found her family traditions etc really interesting! I used to love going round to hers!

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 15:52

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:49

I don't know who you're talking about but that does not happen amongst the gypsies in the UK.

Maybe back in Charles Dickens time?

I think this is a difficult one because you say about gypsies leaving mess that people are only seeing the bad and you shouldn't be judged by that.....but you are saying also that no one favours boys over girls because you don't?

nineseasaway · 24/04/2024 15:53

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:49

I don't know who you're talking about but that does not happen amongst the gypsies in the UK.

Maybe back in Charles Dickens time?

2024 actually. But your mind seem only be open to the good things about gypsys, so no point arguing with you.

godmum56 · 24/04/2024 15:53

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:51

Hmm, tricky question. Times anf traditions are always changing and our life today is very different from even the one out grandparents had. But most of them are proud of what they are and enjoy our lifestyle, especially the social occasions which young people love.

because its all they know and all that they are allowed to know?

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:54

murasaki · 24/04/2024 15:50

But the Op claims this isn't true, and yet complains about being stereotyped in advance. Both those positions can't be correct....

Two things can be true at once. We are mostly identifiable by the way we dress, so if a group of us go somewhere we can be spotted easily.

But if I'm out and about alone in my gym clothes I'm not instantly recognisable as a gypsy.

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BasketsandBunnies · 24/04/2024 15:55

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:54

Two things can be true at once. We are mostly identifiable by the way we dress, so if a group of us go somewhere we can be spotted easily.

But if I'm out and about alone in my gym clothes I'm not instantly recognisable as a gypsy.

What do you wear that is so different that it identifies you?

ringoffiire · 24/04/2024 15:56

PoppyJM · 23/04/2024 22:12

I would like to know what I am misunderstanding about gypsies, as the only experiences that I have had are extremely negative.

I live in a town of just under 20,000 people and we have a very decent sized park, which is heavily used for dog walking, kids playing, sports, exercise etc. The main entrance of the park is wide enough for a vehicle, because ambulances have to drive on there occasionally if people hurt themselves playing football (or fall or whatever). Otherwise, vehicles aren't allowed on the park and this is pretty obvious from the layout. The park also has gates which are locked at night.

From time to time, lots of gypsies come with vehicles/caravans etc. Usually when it's dark.

The most recent time, they were seen (it was dark) by dogwalkers cutting the chain off the gates (which is criminal) and driving loads of vehicles and caravans into the park. I think because they were seen and possibly videoed breaking the law, they were moved on by the police that evening.

The time before, they stayed longer. The children's play area was being used by the children of residents and the children of gypsies. One of the children of the gypsies had a tin of paint (decorating paint, not a child's toy) and threw it all over the play apparatus. A child of a resident told him to stop throwing paint on the apparatus, so he punched her in the face. After this visit, residents had to organise a litter pick as the park was left absolutely covered not only in litter, but also there was human excrement.

Now, because gypsies have cut the chain that locks the park, the council installed a metal retractable bollard in the middle of the entryway to prevent the entry of vehicles. An ambulance came to the park and nobody knew how to retract the bollard so they couldn't drive onto the park to help the person needing the ambulance.

I cannot understand why people are not arrested for the things I have described above and I also cannot understand why people are allowed to travel around and damage facilities that communities use and cause things to have to be installed that ultimately end up making things hard for ambulances - the bollard. Are you able to explain to me why gypsies (presumably) think that this stuff is OK please?

What you have said here is not all that different from asking a random Muslim person to justify why they think the 911 attacks were OK.

You are extrapolating your single experience to an entire ethnicity.

Lassiata · 24/04/2024 15:58

titchy · 23/04/2024 21:52

If they wanted higher education I'd be very supportive but I wouldn't allow it in a school setting.

Do you see the contradiction there? How are they supposed to learn about and access higher education if they don't even do half of their secondary education?

Never heard of home education?

twistyizzy · 24/04/2024 15:58

GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:57

I think treating animals badly is a stereotype, I don't know anyone who would abuse an animal but I know plenty who dote on theirs.
Maybe it's because we wouldn't have them living inside that people disagree with

Not a stereotype around where I live sadly. Horses tethered with no water, raced up and down main roads and yearlings being broken in to drive.
Puppy farming is rife amongst the community. All of this is fact not stereotypes.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 24/04/2024 15:59

ap1999 · 24/04/2024 15:11

The stereotyping of Gypsys occurs because it is almost always true. I have worked in investigations for 35 years across a large geographic area. In all that time we (multi agency operations) ALWAYS as in 100% of perhaps 500 visits - the levell of class A drug distribution, modern slavery of the down & out used as free labour in unregistered. Tarmac/tree surgery/paving businesses - and phenomenal levels of benefit fraud (married women with between 5/10 kids claiming to be single parents - are off the scale and not found at the same level with any other group or ethnicity.
There appears to be absolutely no regard for authority or rules - just a general need to 'take' .

I'm sorry if you don't like this assessment but for me over such a long period of time it has been my live experience

I think some of this is down to non enforcement of the law by the authorities. It does seem large numbers of travellers/gypsies cause these problems, but why are they not severely dealt with? It seems, as with a lot of lawless behaviour, that the police just don't want to get involved. Its then up to individual people to do things like ask for payment for meals upfront or protect their property. The police should not be scared of confronting people, no matter their ethnicity if they engage in criminal behaviour. Its sad for OP that she has to pay upfront in restaurants, but restaurants have to do this. When you see stories of large families eating and drinking and running up massive bills then running off, you can almost guarantee they are travellers. I'm not sure if Roma get tarred with the same brush because of it but for restaurant and pub owners, if its a choice between tarring everyone with the same brush or losing hundreds of pounds of takings, then they have no choice.

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 15:59

BasketsandBunnies · 24/04/2024 15:55

What do you wear that is so different that it identifies you?

Usually a bit overdressed for any occasion. The men in particular can be spotted easily by their dress sense

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ZsaZsaTheCat · 24/04/2024 15:59

GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:44

Thanks could be premature, let's see how it goes first!

There are some people that leave mess, but they are a very small minority. The vast majority of gypsies don't even live on the road anymore as that way of life has been made so difficult these days.

This is untrue. When travellers leave Great Yarmouth it costs the LA thousands of TAX PAYERS money to clear up the mess!

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