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I'm just an average gypsy AMA

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GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:36

I've noticed a lot of hatred towards gypsies on here so I thought I'd answer any questions anyone may have that could help you to understand my culture more. You might still disagree with many aspects, but at least you'll be coming from facts and not stereotypes.

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Disturbia81 · 24/04/2024 12:28

Bloody hell stop defending them. You should be more sad that they are like this and ruining it for yourself.
When peoples experiences of gypsies are mostly negative then it's not 1%, it's a big problem and something insidious with how they live.

rainbowbee · 24/04/2024 12:30

Wording this carefully- is theft just normalised in the community or is it seen as taboo or a crime in any way? Asking because in the city where I live it is completely 'normal' for Roma children to be taught/told to pickpocket and the ladies to steal from shops.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 24/04/2024 12:37

NashvilleQueen · 23/04/2024 23:21

@Chocochick take a look at the educational attainment stats for GRT children and see how they compare to 'middle class hippy types' home schooled children.

Exactly. You can't 'homeschool' children above primary school age if you haven't been educated yourself above primary school age and when huge numbers of your community are illiterate. Thus is where the homeschooling system falls down. Children aren't being homeschooled in any meaningful sense. Not just gypsy/ travellers, but in fundamentalist religious communities.

GerbilsForever24 · 24/04/2024 12:40

I understand your point that no education for girls, girls/women being expedcted to be at home is normal and just your culture but I am afraid I just can't accept it.

As a white South African, I'm old enough to remember the kind of old school racists who would say things like, "well, the [unpleasant word for black people] just aren't like us and it's better if we're all kept separate". But what they really meant was that they weren't going to let black people have opportunities, or wealth or whatever.

It feels similar. It doesn't really matter what the girls think, this is just how it is and they must accept it.

I assume that girls/women are expected to be virgins when they marry? Is the same standard applied to men/boys? Are marriages 100% by choice? What happens if someone wants to marry out of the community?

valensiwalensi · 24/04/2024 12:42

Hi Op

Can I ask if you have any experience or opinion on keeping horses? We have a large gypsy site near us and the horses are often tethered in public places like the middle of busy roundabouts. Whenever anyone tries to intervene like taking a bucket of water over, they are often abused and it raises tensions in the community. Do you agree with the practice?

ToastforTea · 24/04/2024 12:49

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 11:07

Roma

Where do you believe your ethnic group originated from? I have heard variously Egypt, India etc... Is this ever discussed in the community?

FrogTheWarrior · 24/04/2024 12:50

GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:52

Travellers are Irish travellers, a completely different ethnicity to gypsies. I find it really frustrating that they lump us together

Me too.

Gypsies are not travellers (or tinkers) 😡

takemeawayagain · 24/04/2024 12:56

The thing is with a lot of these horror stories people have no idea if they were even Roma, they could have been a completely different lot of travellers for all they know. I know a settled gypsy, you wouldn't know if she didn't tell you and hardly anyone knows because she's afraid of the abuse. My last experience of travelling Roma (I'm just guessing that they were) was on a grass verge down the road from us, a rather lovely painted (single) caravan and horse, no problems and no mess or stories of people being robbed that I noticed or heard about from anyone.

Grescibe · 24/04/2024 12:57

GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:36

I've noticed a lot of hatred towards gypsies on here so I thought I'd answer any questions anyone may have that could help you to understand my culture more. You might still disagree with many aspects, but at least you'll be coming from facts and not stereotypes.

Unfortunately OP your facts endorse the stereotype

GoodHeavens99 · 24/04/2024 13:01

Forhecksake · 23/04/2024 22:15

Is there anything local services can do that would help you feel more comfortable or welcome? Especially in terms of healthcare.

I'm guessing health care professionals encourage parents to have their children vaccinated.

GoodHeavens99 · 24/04/2024 13:04

tsmainsqueeze · 23/04/2024 22:27

Thankyou for this very interesting ama , is your marriage equal or does your husband get the final say in decisions etc and what would be the 'norm' in a gypsy marriage ?
I find your culture fascinating but i always get the impression that women aren't treated as equals which seems oppressive to me.
Is there much poverty ?

Obviously not, if the OP's husband has the final say on whether the children are vaccinated.

GoodHeavens99 · 24/04/2024 13:07

NashvilleQueen · 23/04/2024 22:32

I do appreciate you offering this chance for people to ask and I am sorry to be negative but I simply don't understand how in 2024 you can defend denying girls a formal education. Saying your community doesn't value boys education either is not an excuse.

I would say the same about any religion or way of life that removed choice or opportunity from young women.

I feel the same.

I can't respect that outlook.

The OP seems like a lovely woman, but I can't get my head around such contradictory statements.

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:08

Disturbia81 · 24/04/2024 12:28

Bloody hell stop defending them. You should be more sad that they are like this and ruining it for yourself.
When peoples experiences of gypsies are mostly negative then it's not 1%, it's a big problem and something insidious with how they live.

FFS I haven't defended any bad behaviour.

Do you realise how bloody annoying it is to be constantly judged on the same level of the worst people are n your society?

Gypsies are everywhere, living normal (for them) lives. They could be behind you in the queue in Tesco or sat at the next table in the restaurant. You just don't know it. Obviously only the poor behaviour grabs attention, why would normal people get attention?

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GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:09

GoodHeavens99 · 24/04/2024 13:01

I'm guessing health care professionals encourage parents to have their children vaccinated.

Encourage/harass. I'd say these days it's more of a 50/50 split for people who do and don't vaccinate, where in my parents generation it was next to none.

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GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:11

GoodHeavens99 · 24/04/2024 13:04

Obviously not, if the OP's husband has the final say on whether the children are vaccinated.

Wrong. I had the final say, in fact my husbands family al vaccinate. Everything except MMR I think as his parents believed the nonsense about it causing autism.

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GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:12

I find it really interesting that the education thing is what's caused the most conversation. It's just so normal to me and it seems completely unfathomable to you all.

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EmpressaurusOfCats · 24/04/2024 13:16

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 13:12

I find it really interesting that the education thing is what's caused the most conversation. It's just so normal to me and it seems completely unfathomable to you all.

Can you explain why secondary school is unacceptable? And you’ve said that if one of your children wanted to train as a doctor you’d make it possible - but how?

crumblingschools · 24/04/2024 13:19

Posters are fixating on education as it is so important. It is so wrong to deny children an education especially girls

BasketsandBunnies · 24/04/2024 13:20

GypsyAMA · 24/04/2024 11:22

I'm not denying them anything, I've already said I would support them as far as they want to go in education. I would be very proud of my child if they became a doctor or something. I just wouldn't let them go to a secondary school setting.

You are clearly intelligent and I struggle to understand why you would be so averse to your DC being in a secondary school setting and fulfilling their academic potential. Your culture may not place much value on education but your children might. You would be pretty much scuppering their chances of being able to become a doctor or similar by keeping them away from secondary chool. Do you really believe it is fair that you do this?

Disturbia81 · 24/04/2024 13:22

I know there's many good ones living amongst us. Who just get on with they lives and cause no issues. But why are there so many awful ones. So many that everyone you speak to has had bad experiences. That's not like any other part of society.

Lacuranights · 24/04/2024 13:24

This is so interesting, OP! If the majority of children stop attending school at, say 11 years of age, how do they fill their time?

Notreat · 24/04/2024 13:27

GypsyAMA · 23/04/2024 21:50

I'm glad to hopefully help.

Not many have horses really, to be honest I know nothing about horses at all.

I honestly don't think there's anything you can do. Some kids do choose to stay in school and I think that's great, but I wouldn't allow mine to. If they wanted higher education I'd be very supportive but I wouldn't allow it in a school setting.

Why wouldn't you allow your children to stay in school? How would they be able to access higher education if they don't complete school?
Do you home educate?

fedupandstuck · 24/04/2024 13:28

@GypsyAMA what do you fear happening to your children if they remain in education in a secondary school?

Or if not fear, what is it you don't approve of, dislike, disagree with that happens during secondary school?

Do you ever get bored of being at home doing just whatever there is as housework?

Do gypsies in general go abroad for holidaying?

Harshreality · 24/04/2024 13:30

What do you do about Jehovahs Witnesses? Obviously they knock on all of the doors in a local community. Would they get sent out on their ear if they approached a gypsy camp?

50Fifty · 24/04/2024 13:34

This is the best AMA I've ever read. Genuinely interesting and insightful. OP, your replies are very measured and eloquently written. Thanks for being so candid.

I don't agree with the Gypsy lifestyle but as you've said, I'm judging it by my own standards. I'm enjoying learning more about your way of life.

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