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I lied on my CV - AMA

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Cvlying · 04/03/2023 06:34

Following on from a recent thread about cvs. Nc for this.
I have a fabricated cv- not completely but in my 20s what is on my cv isn't what I actually did.
After having children I changed career and couldn't find a job so I invented a job history that was fake. It worked and for the past 12 years I've been doing this career. I no longer put the fake history on cvs as I now have the experience to back it up.
Never got into trouble and always kept track of my lie.
So AMA

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Gwenhwyfar · 05/03/2023 16:20

"She robbed more ethical candidates of the job."

Like I said, those who got jobs in the relevant carrer may have just been lucky, or privileged or whatever. We don't know that they're more ethical just because they didn't have to lie.

Gwenhwyfar · 05/03/2023 16:22

"Maybe OP could manage to do the job but how much better could those with experience have been, given the chance."

Not necessarily any better at all after the first year or two. OP has been promoted many times so...

Gwenhwyfar · 05/03/2023 16:24

"you either have integrity or you don't and she doesn't"

I don't see life in such black and white terms.

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:24

Gwenhwyfar · 05/03/2023 16:24

"you either have integrity or you don't and she doesn't"

I don't see life in such black and white terms.

Clearly!

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 05/03/2023 16:32

journeyofsanity · 05/03/2023 14:40

Amazed me how pure and honest so many MNers are. They abhor any firm of deception so clearly have lived the purest of lives.
What's crazy is I have never met anyone like that in my life.

They also firmly believe that employers provide incredibly detailed, personalised references, and that if you so much as take an extra two minutes of tea break after giving your notice, they will tear you to pieces in said reference and ruin your career.

In reality, it’s been 15 years since I’ve worked for a company that provides anything beyond “I can confirm that May Dupp worked in the position of Head Turdpolisher between dates X and Y”.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 05/03/2023 16:35

imagine having to constantly remember fake dates and anecdotes to keep up a web of lies. Isn’t that tiring?
You’d better not slip up!

Seriously? I don’t think I’ve ever referenced the dates of my previous employment again after leaving the roles - and my roles were real!

FloydPepper · 05/03/2023 16:38

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 15:48

@ScandiNoirNuit you are totally missing the point. It has nothing to do with the chronology of her fake or real jobs. The crux is that she is deceitful, unscrupulous and, as well as fabricating complex lies, has involved the people closest to her to be complicit by writing fake references. I wouldn't employ her in a million years.

This. It speaks to someone’s character and it shows a character I would not want in my organisation

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2023 16:39

Will you be teaching your children that it's OK to commit fraud as long as you can get away with it?

Would you tell your kids that you got your job fraudulently?

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:40

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves that's exactly what I asked but the OP has gone very quiet.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2023 16:41

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:40

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves that's exactly what I asked but the OP has gone very quiet.

Sorry, I missed your question! Let's wait and see if either of us get an answer!

Oblomov23 · 05/03/2023 16:41

So this is bad, but not that bad. 10 years is a long time to lie about. But op won't get found out now. I don't really get the anger at OP.

FloydPepper · 05/03/2023 16:42

Correlation · 05/03/2023 16:05

I’m not sure why this matters if the OP is good at her job. There are far too many people with “good CVs and relevant experience” who are incompetent in their job.

Because it shows she’s prepared to lie and fake things to get what she wanted. I’d not trust her in a position of any responsibility as she’s very likely to lie and fake again to get what she wants. Be that stealing, hiding mistakes, anything.

LadyJ2023 · 05/03/2023 16:42

So your saying you have experience now because of those years of lying and getting your position...Huh you have no more experience than me because like it or not your one big LIER and you were an adult doing it and an adult carrying it on. Disgusts me you took a job meant for someone genuinely trained for the job and you weren't. Experience are you joking you've lived a lie most of your working life!!!

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:43

Oblomov23 · 05/03/2023 16:41

So this is bad, but not that bad. 10 years is a long time to lie about. But op won't get found out now. I don't really get the anger at OP.

FFS so is it only bad if you get found out?!

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Cvlying · 05/03/2023 16:44

To answer the question I won't tell them to lie but I won't judge them if they do.
I hope I'll be in a position to guide/help them with their choices. They have fixed ideas of what they want to do.

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whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:45

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves it is a really important question. Can you imagine telling your DC that you have done that? Kind of shatters any parental credibility on the values front.

Headabovetheparakeet · 05/03/2023 16:46

What industry do you work in?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2023 16:46

Cvlying · 05/03/2023 16:44

To answer the question I won't tell them to lie but I won't judge them if they do.
I hope I'll be in a position to guide/help them with their choices. They have fixed ideas of what they want to do.

So would you tell them about the lies that you told?

Do you ever feel ashamed of what you did, or do you not really care about the moral side of things?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2023 16:49

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 16:45

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves it is a really important question. Can you imagine telling your DC that you have done that? Kind of shatters any parental credibility on the values front.

Yes, that's what I thought.

But maybe the OP is one of those people who teaches their kids that self interest is more important than any moral values. There seem to be plenty of people around who operate like that, so I presume that they must learn it from somewhere.

It's very hard to get your head around how someone can be OK with doing this. I would be consumed by guilt!

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Cvlying · 05/03/2023 16:50

I would tell them I lied when they are old enough.
I don't feel ashamed but then I really struggle with empathy.
I did try to get a get a job originally with a real cv showing cross transferable skills but got no where. So I lied.

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ScandiNoirNuit · 05/03/2023 16:52

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 15:48

@ScandiNoirNuit you are totally missing the point. It has nothing to do with the chronology of her fake or real jobs. The crux is that she is deceitful, unscrupulous and, as well as fabricating complex lies, has involved the people closest to her to be complicit by writing fake references. I wouldn't employ her in a million years.

@whitepicketfencers my point wasn’t around whether you or I would consider her deceitful, it was that there are highly unlikely to be any repercussions of this as her current employment is based on actual genuine experience. And I genuinely don’t think the previous employer who she directly lied to will find out.

I can’t be the only one who sees people listing previous roles on linked in that differ substantially from what they actually did or their actual / substantive job titles. The most common one I see is people inflating their job progression. So instead of saying (factually) they held 2 analyst roles, then a manager at same level for 2 roles then director they will call it analyst, manager from second analyst role, senior manager then director. So it presents as they were more senior earlier in their careers. There is literally someone I know through work who has been made a director this year and yet her linked in has that title from previous role 1.5years ago! Bullshit abounds in the world of cvs!

Speakingmymind · 05/03/2023 17:04

Cvlying · 05/03/2023 16:50

I would tell them I lied when they are old enough.
I don't feel ashamed but then I really struggle with empathy.
I did try to get a get a job originally with a real cv showing cross transferable skills but got no where. So I lied.

So that's OK then, you couldn't get a job so lied.

ilovesooty · 05/03/2023 17:50

Mistletoewench · 05/03/2023 16:10

I’ve lived with the guilt of saying I passed my CSE maths on my CV for years. I’ve been expecting a knock on my door from the CV police for years.
my husband has embellished his CV as well, doesn’t make us bad people, just hustling to get through life like most folk.

embellished
hustling

You're both liars.

whitepicketfencers · 05/03/2023 17:55

You seem to struggle with a lot of values besides empathy OP. You don't feel ashamed and you justify your actions with warped reasoning that telling the truth didn't get the results you wanted so you lied. I really feel sorry for your DC.

ilovesooty · 05/03/2023 17:56

FloydPepper · 05/03/2023 16:42

Because it shows she’s prepared to lie and fake things to get what she wanted. I’d not trust her in a position of any responsibility as she’s very likely to lie and fake again to get what she wants. Be that stealing, hiding mistakes, anything.

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I agree. It doesn't matter whether her previous lies are relevant to her job now. She has no integrity and lying has been her default position to get what she wants. I wouldn't want anyone like that around me - professionally or personally.