I lied on my CV - AMA

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Following on from a recent thread about cvs. Nc for this.
I have a fabricated cv- not completely but in my 20s what is on my cv isn't what I actually did.
After having children I changed career and couldn't find a job so I invented a job history that was fake. It worked and for the past 12 years I've been doing this career. I no longer put the fake history on cvs as I now have the experience to back it up.
Never got into trouble and always kept track of my lie.
So AMA

"I do a job I am wildly unqualified for. I fell into it in odd circumstances, and would never get my job if I applied for it in a different organisation. I don't think that's so unusual."

No, it's not. People working their way up whereas if they worked elsewhere they might need a more specific qualification. In OP's case she had the paper qualification, but not the job experience at the very beginning.

Well, effectively you will be telling them that it's OK to commit fraud if you make it clear that that's what you did and you don't regret it. Not the values that I'd be wanting to pass down to my dc, but each to their own. The rest of us can only hope that your dc somehow manage to acquire some morals and don't follow in your footsteps.

Encouraging people to take a punt and apply if they don't meet all of the criteria is fine. The worst that can happen is that they waste the recruiter's time. What isn't fine is pretending to meet all of the criteria when you don't. That's fraudulent.

"I thought if I put all qualifications and experience they'd just wonder why I wanted to work their so I left it off. Do people think this is wrong as well?"

I don't. I suppose you could argue it's a lie by omission, but you are allowed to put what you deem relevant on your CV.

"To me it doesn't matter that the OP has proved she can do the job now. She lied to get it in the first place which says a lot about her moral compass."

She didn't lie to get her current job though, only to start this particular career.

"i still feel guilty for stealing my friends pencil in junior school, and am paranoid about stealing since."

Your friend was the victim of your theft. There's no victim here (even though I can see some posters trying to argue that competing job seekers were victims).

She has got to the position that she is in on the basis of the lies that she told previously. The lack of integrity is as relevant now as it was then.

This !!

Op good on you, you can obviously do the job and do it well so who cares, and well done from me from having the balls to do it

It's so pathetic how people are getting their knickers in a twist over this 😂

Too many crappy, trumped up office jobs require so much experience when literally anyone with half a brain could do them 🤷‍♀️

I lied on my CV.
I was an alcoholic for nearly 20 years and had never done a days work in my life.
Even though I stopped drinking I was unlikely to ever gain employment so I made up 20 years of fabricated work history and got a job, worked here nearly 14 years now.
If I hadn't I'd have been claiming benefits all this time, would that have been better?

But she probably wouldn't have got her current job without lying to get the previous ones.

Which trumped up office jobs are you talking about? Op has said she is a senior manager.

Oooh I don’t know, what a choice there eh, fraud it is. Or you could do what I did with a lifelong chronic illness which caused me a massive work gap - I worked my fucking arse off volunteering and studied once a week.

How arrogant do you have a to be to say ‘oh any old idiot could do that office job so I can lie to do it’. I mean how utterly arrogant and patronising.

OP I am guessing you don't need to hold security clearance in your job, otherwise you would have been rumbled.

No don't need security clearance.

beatenit I'm sorry you had to do that. Hope you are happy in your job now.

What kind of beyond crap interviews did you people have?

Do you think large swathes of the job market in the U.K. asks for too narrow a type of person to become an employee?
Once upon a time you were easily able to work your way in something and move around if you didn't enjoy it. Now I'm finding without a degree you can't even get a junior role. And once you get a job there's a lot of pressure to stay in the job and the field. I find this wrong and the job market definitely loses out on talent as a result.

I think ops success might have proved she had a point

I know someone who was sacked when lies on his CV came to light- probably 20-25 years after the period he'd lied about. He had loads of brilliant (post lie) experience - all demonstrating the skills but the fact he had lied initially was enough to get him sacked - he has never worked in that field again.
there is a huge difference in telling your children to apply for things which they don't tick all the boxes for, or exaggerating your role (led a project vs was on a project etc) and downright lying
If someone worked for me who did that i could not trust them and that would be a deal breaker

OP - I have questions but you're not answering lots of questions already asked? Why is this?

Good for you! I’m always rooting for people who are this bold. I’d do it too if I wasn’t such a terrible coward 😄

I don't agree with all those postered referring to it as fraud. What's the difference between a lie and fraud.
It's a very grey area. How bad does it need to be for a small lie to become bigger and thus an issue.

Many mn employment threads encourage women to go for a position they don't have all the criteria for, saying a man wouldn't think twice about it. Probably Men lie more at interviews, telling interviewer they've got experience when they haven't.

Utterly different to putting down 10 years worth of complete lies on a CV. FFS

Trying to compare fraud and a lie, doesn’t work. Fraud is a lie that leads to financial or personal gain. Fraud is created by lying. Lying isn’t always fraud.

It’s not a grey area. At all. You either held a role or you didn’t.

If many men lie, on their CV or in interviews, then it’s also fraud.

I think it just highlights the unnecessary bureaucracy and box ticking exercises of modern employment, and also lazy recruitment.

I think this is very well observed.

The levels of incompetence (fear?) in HR and recruitment are high. Way to much dependancy on algorithms. This locks a lot of people out, often very good people.

I think a contributing factor to that is immediate firing for mistakes, and a culture in which nobody wants to take responsibility.

We have forgotten that we learn a lot from mistakes.

The outrage is hilarious