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I'm an autistic adult, AMA!

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 17:31

Thought this could be a useful thread - I was diagnosed in my late twenties so neurotypical/allistic (non autistic) people can ask about what it's really like, and if I can help one person with an autistic kid/teenager/young adult I'll be happy :)

There's lots of misinformation out there written by neurotypical people on the subject, so thought it would be helpful to hear it from the horses mouth so to speak :)

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DaisyWaldron · 03/11/2021 17:35

What prompted you to seek out a diagnosis as an adult? Did having official recognition that you were autistic have a big impact on your life, and if so, in what ways?

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 17:42

@DaisyWaldron

What prompted you to seek out a diagnosis as an adult? Did having official recognition that you were autistic have a big impact on your life, and if so, in what ways?

Hi Daisy!

I'll try and answer to the best of my ability as the box has gone super small to reply in and I can't see what you have written 😂


In short - yes. A huge impact, it allowed me to be me, accept myself for how I'm wired neurologically, and has made getting support a bit less complicated!

It has also allowed me to feel validated in my feelings around masking and the trauma it causes.


I am very open about it - out and proud now, as I think its my way of doing my bit so others don't have to go through what I did, and make sure that others feel able to approach the right people to ask for support :)
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Bookaholic73 · 03/11/2021 17:44

Hi @witchesgoose thank you for starting this thread.

My son is 21 and also has autism. He has severe social anxiety. If you have experienced this, would you mind sharing how you managed or overcame it please?

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 17:48

@DaisyWaldron

What prompted you to seek out a diagnosis as an adult? Did having official recognition that you were autistic have a big impact on your life, and if so, in what ways?

Ah, good old working memory, forgot the first question 🤣

My parents knew something was up since I was a few months old but I masked a lot at school, college, uni and even around family.

I had always thought it but specialists had kind of poo pooed it as it sometimes presents differently in females, and I think my family were worried about the stigma attached to it to be completely open about it- many professionals thought I did as a kid but it was constantly denied to my face but it was finally watching some videos on YouTube after I had a bit of a breakdown coming out of a very abusive relationship, being diagnosed with ptsd and that unboxed a lot of previously filed away trauma.


Hope that helps 🤣
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Amazingblossoms · 03/11/2021 17:52

I know every autistic person is different and in different circumstances but I just want to know if you are happy?

I worry that all the extra stuff my child has to deal with will make it hard for him to be content as an adult and what kind of support he will need from us.

Also, he never says I love you to me. I think he does but it hurts not having a conventional connection. I do work hard to see it from his perspective as I know life is very different for him . Do you think he knows how much I love him?

Thanks in advance

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 17:58

@Bookaholic73

Hi *@witchesgoose* thank you for starting this thread.

My son is 21 and also has autism. He has severe social anxiety. If you have experienced this, would you mind sharing how you managed or overcame it please?

Hi Bookaholic,

Awesome name firstly 🤣 To be honest, and this might sting a bit, it was my family and support network that had to do the overcoming rather than me.


We are pumped out this awfully negative narrative about autistic people - I've got an answer for you.

Instead of autistic, replace with the word "gay".

It would be outrageous to suggest people have to overcome their gayness and be straight, have conversion therapy and told not to act gay by their support network on a daily basis.

But yet, we have seemed to expect autistics to mask and implement pbs/aba/ei etc.

All horribly abusive and traumatic. I think that it's more about people being accepting and truly understanding of autistic people in their care, and instead of trying to change them, put that energy into changing society.

The best advice I can give you is don't give your kids reason to mask. And they will be masking sadly, even if you don't think they are.


Ask them what they would want changed in their environment and support network to truly be themselves.
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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 18:02

@Amazingblossoms

I know every autistic person is different and in different circumstances but I just want to know if you are happy?

I worry that all the extra stuff my child has to deal with will make it hard for him to be content as an adult and what kind of support he will need from us.

Also, he never says I love you to me. I think he does but it hurts not having a conventional connection. I do work hard to see it from his perspective as I know life is very different for him . Do you think he knows how much I love him?

Thanks in advance

That must be really hard to deal with. If you can honestly say, hand on heart you and his support systems are not trying to change who he is, and truly accept him for who he is, I'm sure he is and does.
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Sendmetobarbados · 03/11/2021 18:04

Thank you, this is really interesting. My question relates to anxiety and, particularly, meltdowns and regulating emotions. My daughter (aged 12) is autistic and regularly takes her frustrations out on me at home, after masking at school. She can be quite violent, and it's a behaviour we're working on to try and ensure she has down time and that her triggers are reduced. I was wondering whether you struggled with this as a child/teen and, if so, whether - or how - you were able to manage it? Worth mentioning that my daughter also has a learning disability and a stammer, which can cause extra frustrations.

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PinkyU · 03/11/2021 18:06

What do you think of people who self diagnose as autistic?

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Amazingblossoms · 03/11/2021 18:08

Thank you OP.

I'd say we try our best not to change him, in fact we're currently in a battle with his school who aren't giving him the right support because they don't see that it's their job to accommodate him not the other way around!

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MyButteredBread · 03/11/2021 18:17

My 18yo dd was diagnosed privately at age 15, and has really struggled since leaving school. She hasn't been able to settle into anything since. (Worldwide pandemic and lockdown didn't help!)

My instinct is to let her take some time out and find her feet, but I worry about how she will support herself as she gets older, especially as all education programmes and support js geared for this age group. I'm not sure how her future will pan out, but right now she struggles to even leave her room for any length of time. I'm seeking out counselling for her, but if you have any words of wisdom I'd be happy to hear it.

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 18:30

@Sendmetobarbados

Thank you, this is really interesting. My question relates to anxiety and, particularly, meltdowns and regulating emotions. My daughter (aged 12) is autistic and regularly takes her frustrations out on me at home, after masking at school. She can be quite violent, and it's a behaviour we're working on to try and ensure she has down time and that her triggers are reduced. I was wondering whether you struggled with this as a child/teen and, if so, whether - or how - you were able to manage it? Worth mentioning that my daughter also has a learning disability and a stammer, which can cause extra frustrations.

Hugely! I still have them occasionally 🥺

The thing that many find hard to accept is having meltdowns/shutdowns is not a behavioural choice.

It's a medical episode.

The latest research says it's most comparable to having a seizure with how much control you have over them - and it would be ridiculous to punish people for having them/reinforce people for not having them.


They are also NOT just a part of being autistic - they are a sign of SERIOUS autistic distress and shouldn't be happening.

Not because the autistic person should be more tolerant, but their environment and support networks NEED to be working together to remove triggers and put in accommodations.


This suggests she's masking at school and the unexploded coke bottle with half of sainsburies supply of mentos has reached trigger point.


Think about things you can change in her life and your own attitudes!


I was labelled as having challenging behaviours where in reality the environment and people around me were, to the point it was insanely traumatic.

Some things to consider:

Sensory - certain clothes feel like someone's raking fingernails on sunburn
Same with certain sounds, they make me feel I'm in a drawstring bag and it's tightening around my body and I need to get out of my own body as effectively it's been hijacked by someone else and I have NO control over what I do or say.


For almost a week after I feel so heavy, like I've been strapped down with sandbags on every limb.

Social demands - see above. Thankfully my family are very understanding and don't force me anymore to go to family get togethers. Sometimes on a good day on my terms I can meet up with 1 or 2 people, but more than 3 and my brain is fried from juggling all the social energy and demands. As a rule when not related to my SI, 1hr interaction means I need 3 hours sleeping or to be completely left alone.


Executive functioning demands - I have careers coming in 4 hours a day who do all the cleaning, washing etc for me. A lot of trauma is attached to this as when your disability is invisible people just think you are lazy or awkward or manipulative when you say you honestly can't do it.




My brain just gets overwhelmed. The amount of people who have tried to teach me life skills is comical, especially when they cite it's about making me independent. It doesn't work, hugely patronising, tiring and traumatic - I know the theory but simply do not have the mental spoons. Please don't sweat about this for your kids when they are older if they struggle, it's not worth straining your relationship over. Independence doesn't look the same for everyone, and if I had an obvious physical disability that meant I couldn't obviously do it they would have to do it for me.

Don't be fobbed off with that excuse of making them too reliant on support. Don't let them place the burden on your kid or you, get them to deal with it and come up with a workable solution.
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Justilou1 · 03/11/2021 18:31

Hi @witchesgoose… My 17y/o Ds has just been diagnosed. I have known since she was little, but there were many factors that obstructed diagnosis (DH in denial, living overseas/language barrier, multiple moves when we returned, super-masking abilities, etc.) Stereotypical super-high achiever academically, but awkward socially. (She toe-walks, hates eye-contact, has a hard time with non-verbal cues, can’t “read the room” as well as she should and finds “peopleing” either exhausting or a waste of her time. She also stunned me recently by explaining that she completely lacks the ability to visualize anything at all, which explains why she’s so very literal sometimes, I guess.) I ended up ignoring her dad and seeking diagnosis when she kept repeating the same patterns socially and being badly hurt by friends. (Always B-listed) I felt that she was too vulnerable in that area to move away from home. (Fortunately we have another year before that happens here in Aus.) However, unlike you, she is in denial of the diagnosis. She doesn’t think that her moods or control issues are a problem - for her. She is seeing a counsellor (who is fabulous) as a compromise because she won’t go to the specialist ASD program over the summer (here) run specifically for girls her age. She is telling the counsellor that she hasn’t got ASD, but is overwhelmed with the stress of organization, etc at school. (That’s not a problem for her - she’s projecting.) Any hints on how to help her? She knows she’s loved and accepted. We don’t bang on about it at all. She knows we’re proud of WHO she is not just what she can do. Gaaaah!

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 18:36

@PinkyU

What do you think of people who self diagnose as autistic?

Our NHS provision for diagnosis is crappy in many areas- I was prioritised as I was considered high risk due to the ptsd. Many of my friends are self diagnosed and been told to wait 2+ years for an assessment. I really feel for them and don't think they should be put in that situation, but self dx in my books is totally valid!
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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 18:37

@Amazingblossoms

Thank you OP.

I'd say we try our best not to change him, in fact we're currently in a battle with his school who aren't giving him the right support because they don't see that it's their job to accommodate him not the other way around!

That's shitty, sorry to hear that. There's a BRILLIANT speaker called Kerion rose (the autistic advocate) that runs courses for schools etc. Maybe worth looking in to?
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Amazingblossoms · 03/11/2021 18:39

Thank you, I will look into it. Anything to help the school step up!

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 18:41

@MyButteredBread

My 18yo dd was diagnosed privately at age 15, and has really struggled since leaving school. She hasn't been able to settle into anything since. (Worldwide pandemic and lockdown didn't help!)

My instinct is to let her take some time out and find her feet, but I worry about how she will support herself as she gets older, especially as all education programmes and support js geared for this age group. I'm not sure how her future will pan out, but right now she struggles to even leave her room for any length of time. I'm seeking out counselling for her, but if you have any words of wisdom I'd be happy to hear it.

Encourage her to do the things she enjoys and is good at, let her chill doing whatever "obsessive interest" she has.

It's almost like in built meds to self regulate.

Look into PIP, ESA (support group), direct payments from social services and access to work.

Be warned they won't make it easy, but once you have support in place it can take the pressure off.

If she's going to uni she will also be eligible for DSA.
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picklemewalnuts · 03/11/2021 18:45

Do you worry about having a very limited set of life experience? I worry about DS25 who is likely to live independently, go to work, come home, but not much else. At the moment he lives with us. He has a friend he sees maybe once a month. He does all shopping online. If he lives alone (away from us), he'll only leave the house for work and for an occasional trip to the cinema with his friend. If his friend moves, that would be it.

I worry he'll be isolated and eventually unhappy, but unable to change his circumstances.

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picklemewalnuts · 03/11/2021 18:48

He only tends to do things when encouraged/instructed by us. He was in a job he didn't like, but wouldn't look for a different one. I saw a job perfect for him, told him to apply, sent him the information etc. I worry that without someone telling him, he won't make any changes. He also gets taken advantage of by employers.

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Sendmetobarbados · 03/11/2021 18:52

Thanks for your reply to my question about meltdowns, @witchesgoose. It's really enlightening to hear about your experiences. I never punish my daughter for having a meltdown, but I definitely needed to hear about your experience, as a reminder to remove the demands and pressures that may lead to overwhelm.

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 19:09

@Justilou1

Hi *@witchesgoose*… My 17y/o Ds has just been diagnosed. I have known since she was little, but there were many factors that obstructed diagnosis (DH in denial, living overseas/language barrier, multiple moves when we returned, super-masking abilities, etc.) Stereotypical super-high achiever academically, but awkward socially. (She toe-walks, hates eye-contact, has a hard time with non-verbal cues, can’t “read the room” as well as she should and finds “peopleing” either exhausting or a waste of her time. She also stunned me recently by explaining that she completely lacks the ability to visualize anything at all, which explains why she’s so very literal sometimes, I guess.) I ended up ignoring her dad and seeking diagnosis when she kept repeating the same patterns socially and being badly hurt by friends. (Always B-listed) I felt that she was too vulnerable in that area to move away from home. (Fortunately we have another year before that happens here in Aus.) However, unlike you, she is in denial of the diagnosis. She doesn’t think that her moods or control issues are a problem - for her. She is seeing a counsellor (who is fabulous) as a compromise because she won’t go to the specialist ASD program over the summer (here) run specifically for girls her age. She is telling the counsellor that she hasn’t got ASD, but is overwhelmed with the stress of organization, etc at school. (That’s not a problem for her - she’s projecting.) Any hints on how to help her? She knows she’s loved and accepted. We don’t bang on about it at all. She knows we’re proud of WHO she is not just what she can do. Gaaaah!

I can relate to your daughter in a way, I spent so much time masking, it's like I had two identities. I'm also a perfectionist, so not being seen as "normal" and "asking for help" was a failure. It took a long time but after a wonderful OT that came to assess me for direct payments, she asked if I was autistic 5 minutes into the assessment and was gently able to explain how hard the pressure I put on myself was due to the level of social expectations I felt I had.

I can see your neurotypical logic behind the summer camp but it's a bit like saying "oh go to black kids camp" and expecting them to make friends due to their skin colour.


I can honestly say the best thing socially has been Facebook. Bit frowned upon as social media is evil according to many, but being able to join groups on stuff I'm interested in and go to meet-ups on my own terms has made hugely lasting friendships in my personal and professional life. Perhaps that's worth a shot?
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Curioushorse · 03/11/2021 19:15

OP thanks so much for this!

I have recently realised my SIL may well be autistic. I actually suspect I'm not alone in this thought. I'd be surprised if she doesn't think so herself as, contrary to the stereotype, she's very reflective- perhaps overly reflective.

There are a number of reasons I think this- but actually a lot of it's really sad. She spends ages before social situations preparing questions to ask people, for example. She told me this one day as though it was normal- but since then it's been really obvious to me that she has 'coping strategies' like this for all social situations. They work really well and people think she's awesome- BUT, she can't sustain it and usually goes to bed at 9. Or if a social situation happens spontaneously she often doesn't attend or goes a bit nuts. She growled at me like an actual animal once, for example, because it was raining and we changed the time for a walk. I've seen her bashing her hands against a wall/ crying etc following fairly normal (and not particularly unpleasant) incidents.

Anyhow, there are loads of other things- but she also hasn't been able to have a normal job interacting with people.

My preferred plan is to say nothing- but occasionally I wonder whether she might be happier if she got a diagnosis. I do think she's miserable a lot, and feels like she's the weird one......I'm not sure she is though. If I'm right, then every single one of her odd behaviours is actually not her fault- and we probably made it worse. Have you got any advice?

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witchesgoose · 03/11/2021 19:18

@picklemewalnuts

Do you worry about having a very limited set of life experience? I worry about DS25 who is likely to live independently, go to work, come home, but not much else. At the moment he lives with us. He has a friend he sees maybe once a month. He does all shopping online. If he lives alone (away from us), he'll only leave the house for work and for an occasional trip to the cinema with his friend. If his friend moves, that would be it.

I worry he'll be isolated and eventually unhappy, but unable to change his circumstances.

I think neurotypical and autistic people often have different ideas on what makes a fulfilling life.

When I came out of uni , I ended up in a graduate job that would of likely ended with me having a high probability of a lifetime job on around 40k. Not bad at all.

However the reality is that I ended up having around 8-12 meltdowns PER DAY. I was extremely unhappy and ended up collapsing from stress and handing in my notice after an ambulance was called.

Now I earn much less, self employed part time to allow for too much peopling recovery time and I volunteer internationally on a virtual and physical basis locally. My business has took me all over the country meeting like minded people with my assistance dogs and I LOVE IT.

It's extremely fulfilling and I don't have to deal with the demands of the workplace as everything is on my terms :)
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PineappleWilson · 03/11/2021 19:24

How long did it take you to get a diagnosis please? The NHS website on adult autism says there can be lengthy waits for assessment. Just at the start of this, having an assessment for my DC and realising how many of their behaviours mirror mine.

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PinkyU · 03/11/2021 19:25

I detest self diagnosis. I see so many people who self dx (or self dx their child) because they have some traits but not enough for a diagnosis.

What it does is give society a false view of the difficulties of those who have been assessed, met the stringent criteria and been given an official diagnosis.

Society ends up with the impression that autism is just feeling uncomfortable in crowds and being literal. It allows society to have unrealistic expectations of autistic individuals to manage because they read numerous accounts of self dx people who hold stressful jobs, have partners and families, “have” to socialise but just manage etc etc. The self dx community provide such a damaging narratively autism to the autistic community IMO.

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