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Arrested protesting for Extinction Rebellion. AMA

345 replies

Pinktable11 · 30/08/2021 16:15

32 year old woman, separated, one child, healthcare professional .

I've read the posts about XR on here over the last week

Happy to answer anything, but do keep in mind if I'm arrested again today I may well be out of touch for 24+ hours, and longer if my phone is impounded 😁

OP posts:
Spudlet · 30/08/2021 18:42

I am going to add to my post actually - the result of the campaigning my colleagues and I did was legislation on the statute books in the UK that actually and measurably improved the welfare of the animals we were campaigning for. Because I suspect that what might be coming will be some flannel about old-school lobbying not working and so on…. But it can and it does. It isn’t exciting and it isn’t sexy. But it does the job.

buginarug · 30/08/2021 18:42

Good luck to you OP. People on here are quick to forget the disruptive actions of historical activists such as the Suffragettes.

skodadoda · 30/08/2021 18:44

@beastlyslumber

That's very sad. Had it been known at the time, he would have been escorted through

That's bullshit. Literally EVERYONE you hold up has a reason for going where they're going. Visiting a loved one in hospital, going to work, going to an appointment - who are you to say which reasons for travelling is acceptable and which aren't? You don't know what damage you cause to people's lives and you don't care.

It's strange to jump on a cause like this and think you're being a rebel and that the kind of collateral damage talked about above is justified because you're the only ones who care -- when literally every time I turn on the tv or radio, I get messages about saving the planet, climate change, recycling etc etc. Your cause is literally mainstream government policy. Do you not ever think you could put your time to more productive use?

Absolutely! These people are just an anarchic bunch of lunatics. They wouldn’t believe your ‘reason’ for needing to get past their blockade.
NantesElephant · 30/08/2021 18:45

Keep going OP, some of us appreciate what you’re doing. It’s not a popularity contest, and theres a strong evidence base for non violent direct action being an effective instrument of change.

Iwonder08 · 30/08/2021 18:45

So a perceived importance of drawing attention to 'planet issues' is more important than wellbeing of your own child who is currently at risk of having an unemployed/unemployable mother or worse, the mother who is in prison?

ActonSquirrel · 30/08/2021 18:46

@buginarug

Good luck to you OP. People on here are quick to forget the disruptive actions of historical activists such as the Suffragettes.
Here we go with that again. The suffragettes could and did achieve their goal. These jokers can't

Someone handed me a leaflet and was holding a bottle of evian outside a protest...don't waste my time!

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2021 18:47

@buginarug

Good luck to you OP. People on here are quick to forget the disruptive actions of historical activists such as the Suffragettes.
I knew this would be quoted.

The role of the suffragettes as driving change is actually debated with more moderate groups who worked quietly without the same type of publicity to build consensus. Some even argue that the suffragettes hampered efforts and other political events and activism was actually much more effective in winning support for the cause.

SimonJT · 30/08/2021 18:47

@buginarug

Good luck to you OP. People on here are quick to forget the disruptive actions of historical activists such as the Suffragettes.
Did the suffeagettes target children or adults with additional needs?
Miniroofbox · 30/08/2021 18:48

Talking about the suffragettes minimises the effect that the suffragists had

Spudlet · 30/08/2021 18:48

The suffragettes weren’t the only ones campaigning either - the suffragists fought for the same goals without the violent protests. There was also the small matter of a cataclysmic world war, which changed the political situation massively.

The suffragettes were brave women, but they weren’t the only ones in that fight. They just get all the attention.

3cats4poniesandababy · 30/08/2021 18:49

@buginarug and one of biggest things which supported the suffragettes cause and pushed it so woman got the vote was because during WW1 they stopped protesting and got behind the country and 'did their bit' for the war effort.

MaMelon · 30/08/2021 18:49

@NantesElephant

Keep going OP, some of us appreciate what you’re doing. It’s not a popularity contest, and theres a strong evidence base for non violent direct action being an effective instrument of change.
Do you direct, independent evidence that XR is having a positive impact on getting an increasing number of people across the country to support them and their causes?
ActonSquirrel · 30/08/2021 18:50

Emily Davison martyred herself under the King's Horse for what she believed in.

XR abuse people with additional needs. Great comparison from one of the last posters.

oakleaffy · 30/08/2021 18:50

Putting red dye in fountains and blocking motorways gains little support.
Just an excuse for a party.
Plus all the litter left behind.
Bit hypocritical.
You sound a bit immature wanting to be arrested, as well.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 30/08/2021 18:54

Fiddling whilst Rome burns.

Get thee to China. Or at least the Chinese embassy.

ChateauMargaux · 30/08/2021 18:55

@pinktable11 Good on you. Thank you.

Sirzy · 30/08/2021 18:55

[quote 3cats4poniesandababy]@buginarug and one of biggest things which supported the suffragettes cause and pushed it so woman got the vote was because during WW1 they stopped protesting and got behind the country and 'did their bit' for the war effort.[/quote]
Exactly.

I think the Suffragettes turned a lot of people against the cause because of their approach.

And they had a tangible target and at least their protests made sense in comparison to their target. ER seem to have wishy washy goals, protesting while Parliament isn’t even meeting is unlikely to get much attention from them but they are putting normal people off the cause by causing too much disruption

skodadoda · 30/08/2021 18:56

@Arcadia

No questions, but I cannot believe the almost unilateral hostility towards XR on Mumsnet. Good luck OP.
The hostility is not confined to Mumsnet.
MichelleScarn · 30/08/2021 19:04

@sirzy I'm sure there's an episode of Citizen Smith where Wolfie and the rest try to take over Parliament wasn't meeting, is that the playbook XR are following?

HemanOrSheRa · 30/08/2021 19:05

That's very sad. Had it been known at the time, he would have been escorted through Rubbish. The protestors in this instance knew damn well they were blocking one of the major routes into the city. They'd been asked to stop because they were causing issues for emergency vehicles. What did they think was going to happen?!

Andante57 · 30/08/2021 19:06

Op would you go to China to protest?

MurielSpriggs · 30/08/2021 19:07

Did the suffeagettes target children or adults with additional needs?

If you want to get into a competition about that sort of thing, the suffragettes used bombing and arson.

Chloemol · 30/08/2021 19:08

@Pinktable11

Extinction Rebellion is a non violent direct action pressure group aiming to make governments and big companies to tell the truth about climate change, take mediate action to avert a total climate disaster, and be accountable for their actions

You taking the piss? Non violent! Since when, and it’s all very well stating you want governments and big companies to be accountable for their actions but how about you lot? Destroying habitats for wildlife, leaving rubbish behind for others to picks up, blocking roads and not allowing emergency services through, people not with loved ones at the end of their life, kids, and others frightened by your shouting, screaming and general nastiness

As I said before I and I would suspect the great majority of the country have no desire to support you, and will not take any notice if you

Try acting like grown ups and having sensible conversations, coming to agreements instead of acting like a bunch of vandals.

Oh and I suggest you start with China, the USA and India who really dint do a lot for climate change

godmum56 · 30/08/2021 19:10

[quote MaMelon]@Pinktable11 no, there’s nothing from Extinction Rebellion Bristol that confirms they would have been waved through. Their official statement after the event was:

Extinction Rebellion Bristol apologised to residents for the disruption, saying: “some have not only been inconvenienced but have also been deeply impacted on a personal and emotional level, and it really saddens us.

“We’re sending great empathy and love from our community to them.”

“Despite this, we were there to cause disruption because our government isn’t acting on the climate and ecological crisis. And it is a crisis – that has very real and immediate human consequences.”[/quote]
what a bunch of arrogant twats.
they can stick their empathy and love where the sun don't shine

LukeEvansWife · 30/08/2021 19:12

The irony is that I believe in doing as much as possible to be green (eg recycling, no kids, no car, never flown etc) but the way XR ‘protest’ is frankly pathetic and almost makes me want to do the opposite.

Still, if you think your child will be happy when his/her mother is arrested, you crack on Hmm

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