I'm a midwife who works in abortion care. AMA

[GlitteryPoopooplop]

Go ahead. I'll try and answer everything the best way I can. Sorry if this is boring (I love my job and can go on about it a bit.)!

So why are you even having a discussion with me? There are plenty of people here debating the subject, you have just decided that I've to start my own thread.

Drogo, Glittery just answered the weight gain question. That's exactly what I was told yesterday when I had my depo shot.

I think you are missing the point of MN and AMA it literally stand for ask me anything, ANYTHING!

There ya go. Couldn't be bothered to type it all out.

Well yeah I suppose there will always be idiots who take it very literally instead of engaging their brains.

Do you have alot of women that abort on their partners wishes. People seem to post on mn alot saying the man is pushing them into an abortion.

So what is it that causes that weight gain?

@Thelovecats85 I actually had one very very recently. We spoke at length about it and I told her to go away, talk to him, come back another day if she decided to have treatment. But by the end of the consultation she'd changed her mind and decided abortion was the right choice. We do have counsellors who are great in these situations though.

Sagradafamiliar

So which part do you find offensive? All of it? And if so why? Why does me explaining why people have a moral objection to full term abortion offend you?

Well yeah I suppose there will always be idiots who take it very literally instead of engaging their brains.

Take what very literally?

Horrific. Appalling

Why? I think it's horrific that very sick babies that are in pain and will never leave a hospital are kept alive just because we have the technology to do so.

Why is it widely considered fine to abort a baby because they are disabled, but if you don't find out until after the child is born you have to just keep them, even if you are unwilling or unequipt to do so.

@GlitteryPoopooplop are you able to give advice? I've no experience but thought it would be a case of you could give the facts but not an opinion or advice.

Thank you for this very interesting thread, you sound like a genuinely lovely person.

@Thelovecats85

Oh and what about your statement that a child's life can be ended if a mother decides she can't cope?

Again who do you suggest carries out the ending of these children's lives? Would you be willing to do it?

Lovecats

Where do you draw the line? If you have a healthy child but eg. they have an accident which leaves them severely disabled, can they be disposed of too?

I find your attitude both callous and shocking.

@NoYo

It just a different view on life and death. I think a poor quality of life is worse than death. And yes if you have an accident or illness you should be able to choose to end your life if you want to, and if you don't have the mental capacity to make that choice, then your loved ones should be able to request it- and it could be carried out on approval from an independent board.

Drogo oh stop back peddling, you were referring to abortion in general in your post.

Take what literally?
Erm...what you had just typed. That AMA means ask ANYTHING.

Drogo oh stop back peddling, you were referring to abortion in general in your post.

And? I'm not "back pedalling" at all but people do have more of a problem with the thought of late gestation abortions, probably why it's illegal in most cases. I'm not sure what you find offensive though, you don't explain yourself very well.

So now we are not allowed to ask questions then? Ask MN to change the topic title if it bothers you, or you know stop being ridiculous.

A doctor would do it in the same way a late term abortion is carried out. BTW from what I've heard doctors did used to smother disabled children shortly after birth as it was seen as fairer.

Wrong, it was because there was such a stigma attached to disability. Also there was nowhere near the technology or help available to disabled children and adults as there is today.

Although I will agree that people who believe that full term abortion is morally acceptable should probably have the same veiw as you. At least you can admit that it's the same thing.

Although I do think you will struggle to find a doctor willing to do that.

I know someone who chose to abort her fifth child once a scan showed the baby would be a girl. She already had four girls. She became pregnant within a couple of months and did actually have the boy she craved. Do you see many women choosing to abort because of the sex?

Can i ask about some of the younger patients you have please? You mentioned a girl as young as 12, in cases like that do you contact social services?
Could a girl come in at 13/14/15 and have an abortion without telling another soul, and it be kept confidential? And are there reasons where you would have to reach out to other services for the safety of the child?

@Jammiebammie everyone under 18 has a safeguarding assessment (so does any adult we're concerned about). If we were concerned about them we'd definitely contact ss. Under 13 would definitely require ss and possibly police involvement.

Anyone under 18 needs an adult to come with them to ensure that any discharge advice is taken on board by someone else and they're supported through the process.

Thank you for answering. That’s great there’s so much safeguarding and help for the younger patients.
If I’m honest, I’m surprised everyone under 18 needs an adult to be with them. Do you think that scares some patients, and results in them avoiding care? I’m talking about the 16-18 range here (no judgement, I had my eldest when I was 16 myself)

You sound so caring, I’m glad these women have someone like you in their corner.

@jammiebammie to be honest in some cases is really overkill. Some 16 year olds are very very sensible. We just need to be careful so we don't miss anything.