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I have a criminal record, hit me

127 replies

Chakras · 14/01/2019 19:23

I have a criminal record that's caused a huge amount of problems in life. So go ahead, AMA

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LovingLola · 14/01/2019 22:23

This is all bloody weird ....

Eastie77 · 14/01/2019 22:23

mister this is the bit I don't understand. How did the court prove the OP knew he/she didn't have the funds to cover the cheque. Unless the OP just admitted everything up front which would be a bizarre thing to do (but no more bizarre than this "perfect crime")

Lougle · 14/01/2019 22:25

This isn't a typical AMA thread, is it? 99% of the posts have been trying to decipher the story in the OP, and then when they understand it, it's clear that the crime was not perfectly executed, not a good idea, and really, really not worth repeating.

I wish you well for the future and hope that you get a job that provides you with a reliable income. Perhaps aim for jobs where enhanced disclosures aren't required, and fraud isn't a barrier to employment.

BartonHollow · 14/01/2019 22:25

I'm guessing...

That as she acknowledges in one post, she didn't know it was a criminal offence

That she openly/triumphantly told them what she done and was then arrested

MrsGarethSouthgate · 14/01/2019 22:29

Do you have a job now? If so, are you fulfilling your potential?

nickeltownofbethlehem · 14/01/2019 22:31

I don't have a question, but I had to laugh at your subject title
"I have a criminal record, hit me".

Bit harsh, I thought Grin

BambooBoobam · 14/01/2019 22:31

Cancel the cheque!!!

babypossum · 14/01/2019 22:34

Spent 10 hours with a Probation Officer? Even in the old days you wouldn't have spent more than 2.5 hours max for a pre sentence report.

nickeltownofbethlehem · 14/01/2019 22:35

Actually I do have a question - this conviction would be spent after 10 years, so why does it come up on a dbs check?
I wouldn't have thought it would be a dbs stated crime after this period of time

Haffdonga · 14/01/2019 22:38

Was it worth it?

Chakras · 14/01/2019 22:40

It wasn't an item, or physical money.

I'll say again I was really young, had a shit lawyer who basically told me being upfront would get me a lesser sentence, and my parents didn't care one bit. So small claims court didn't even cross my mind.

Sorry too, something I wrote has been misconstrued and it's my fault - when I say I'd do it again, I meant going back to the original time, not now.

Yes, my conviction is spent, but several jobs I went for required an "enhanced" DBS check.

Also yeah, I was owed £60k but had nothing in writing (really stupid), so couldn't prove a damned thing.

BTW this thread has made me review this in a way I never have, and I actually appreciate your bluntness.

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JustanotherJP · 14/01/2019 22:43

A lot of this doesn’t add up.

Why would you do £60k worth of work for someone without getting paid? As an individual, surely you would stop before it got to that point??

Even with the old periods your conviction would have been ‘spent’ after five years after the end of the community order. Now it would be spent after a year. Basic DBS checks wouldn’t show this, not even sure an enhanced one would still show it if it is over 20 years old.

It is unheard of, in my experience, for probation to spend ten hours with someone for a magistrates court pre-sentence report. Much more usual is 30mins to an hour.

As an aside the probabtion officer can make a recommendation but are sometimes a bit ‘soft’, the Bench has sentencing guidelines and is not obliged to follow the recommendations of probabtion.

JustanotherJP · 14/01/2019 22:44

Cross posted.

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 14/01/2019 22:46

Bloody hell! If you think this crime was perfectly executed and well worth the lasting and damaging consequences, may I suggest a life of crime is not for you? Grin

LovingLola · 14/01/2019 22:47

So 20 years ago, when you were very young and naive, you did 9 months worth of work for someone and that work was worth over £60,000 ???? Really ??? What was the work ?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/01/2019 22:48

OP, did you buy a last minute plane ticket to Australia? Grin

Chakras · 14/01/2019 23:02

Why? Because I was young, naive and the person sweet talking me and stringing me along. We had developed a friendship and he used this friendship to keep the ruse going.

As said, the jobs I was going for back then were high profile and required an enhanced DBS check.

If I detail the type of work it could identify me, it was technology related, and one aspect was the creation of one of the very first things of the type in the world.

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GoGoGadgetGin · 15/01/2019 07:11

Was it bit coin?

DearPrudence · 15/01/2019 09:06

"Yet, over 20 years on, I have no regrets about what I did"

Why don't you regret it?

Do think now that what you did was wrong?

LovingLola · 15/01/2019 09:11

Was it bit coin?

In 1998?????

LiqouriceLaces · 15/01/2019 09:11

I have a conviction for fraud (by false representation)
I was given a custodial sentence (suspended)

I had no problem at all opening a bank account, applying for a credit card and a loan with a fraud offence, even before my conviction was 'spent', I can't understand why you would.

Can I ask why you would bother applying for jobs you know require an enhanced DBS?
I know I wouldn't, it would just be a waste of my time and theirs as any job that would require it would be the kind of employer that would never employ someone with a conviction for fraud.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 15/01/2019 09:21

Liqourice I don't know when you committed your crime but 20 odd years ago it was more difficult to keep a bank account etc, it is much easier now as its recognised that if you don't give ex-criminal's access to everyday services they are more likely to reoffend.

boringlyboring · 15/01/2019 09:31

Yes I did it, I planned it meticulously, executed it perfectly

😂😂

I love this. I was expecting a Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen type of mastermind, not writing a cheque you couldn’t pay. Very meticulous!

GoGoGadgetGin · 15/01/2019 09:40

Lola Ah 1998! I thought 10 years ago which was l think the start of bitcoin... Couldn't think of anything else non-physical, v specialist, techy and extremely outing!! Grin

Chakras · 15/01/2019 09:42

I didn't regret it at the time, and I was oblivious to it being a criminal offence. If I'd known then I wouldn't have done it.

Jobs requiring an enhanced DBS check. This was due to the industry that I was working in at the time, pretty much every job required the enhanced check.

Liquorice, it's interesting you had no problems with a bank account and loan, you don't say how long ago your offence was (sorry to hear of your conviction too).

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