"We" can always tell

Thank you - I think you are right - and we shouldn't forget that:

...being told we are imaging it, or we are obsessed, or we are getting things out of proportion

isn't because those telling think that it is being imagined / is obsession / is out of proportion - it is simply a way of using words to try and win an unwinnable argument - there is rarely honesty in such claims... it is in effect bullying.

And there we have it ladies. Gender Critical Feminists don’t believe transwomen are women because their boobs are too small. Therefore, women with small boobs are actually men.

I mean really?
Do you remotely understand what being Gender Critical means?
This is definitely up there with the top ten stupidest things I've ever read or heard anywhere.

For the avoidance of doubt, Gender Critical Feminists don't believe transwomen are women because transwomen are MEN. Even the ones with absolutely ENORMOUS boobs.

I’d say top 5.

No point. They are fully entrenched.

The reality is that it's easy to be mistaken with one still photograph, but I real life you can always tell.

Shocked face to see which posters are so invested in making hay with this unfortunate mistake.

And have you condemned Watson, Hayden et al? I think not.

Why hang about and constantly post on topics that don’t align with your beliefs or you don’t agree with?

It’s like constantly going onto threads about say, Christianity, and disagreeing with everyone who believes in and wants to discuss, Christianity. Over and over. What a way to spend your time. I wish I had that much time to waste 😟.

Quite.

Yes, I responded to your statement to another poster. Your statement was

"Look what you made me do" is straight out of the abusers charter and it's not something we should be debasing ourselves to.

In response to PP pointing out that the reason women now do question when they read news about a woman whether that person was actually male is because it is a known fact that sometimes people are reported as women when they are actually male. Hence, that question is now on the radar as a possibility when previously it was not.

You said that is an abuser's logic.

I agree with the PPs point and disagree with your framing it as abusers' logic. Hence my replying to you.

And l referred to "women on FWR noting the reason people now question whether a woman in the news is in fact female is that people reported as women are not always now female", Ie not all women on FWR but specifically the subset of women on FWR making that point to which you were objecting.

Seems entirely fair of me to comment on your post given it was framing something I agree with in what I consider a manipulative and ad hom way.

I have no clue who you're talking about.

AND SHE IS ON THE LIST NOW.

Where she should always have been, as everybody here agrees.
So maybe let her, and the topic, rest in peace?

The main thing I have witnessed on here about GC woman and men, is the need to tell people who aren't transphobic, to shut up.

Funny. The main thing I have witnessed on here about Genderist women and men is, when asked to explain and justify their position with evidence, they cannot.

I find it very weird how some posters seem to think admitting ignorance of the topic upon which they have been confidently posting is some sort of power move.

This isn't Too Cool For School club. We aren't 12. Women aren't suddenly going to give up Feminism in embarrassment for actually caring about it when they could be all cool and Not Bovvered 😂

The irony of

"You shouldn't be talking about this at all, it's disrespectful to the dead person and their family"
"OK, maybe time to let the topic rest in peace?"
"OMG don't tell me to shut up!!!"

Every accusation, as they say...

Lexi still at work, not noticed the comment MN made about not having received a report from Lexi about the original thread… oh a passing bandwagon, scuse me!

Hmm. Fully entrenched in being a biological woman. How did the interests of 51% of the population become "indoctrination"?

What a skewed take on a respectful suggestion.

What's with the " condemnation" thing? Seems to me it belongs in the same stable as public virtue signalling.

If women hadn't had to get into the trenches to defend a land grab by entitled men, then they wouldn't be entrenched.

But we did, so we are. And that's OK. The trenches are slowly moving forward again.

What @murasaki said

What bizarre standards are you referring to?

Do you mean actually being female by any chance?

Since gender critical feminists consider transmen as women and recognise them as such in most situations, I would suggest that it's not us that impose bizarre standards of femininity on women. Or any standards at all.

Well quite

So then why was this account besieged by abusive gender criticals insisting that this woman was actually a man?