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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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highame · 15/10/2026 13:32

Lalgarh · 15/10/2026 13:09

Councils where Labour are in power sharing with the greens

https://bsky.app/profile/electionmaps.uk/post/3mxvvmyyvyc2y

Sheffield
Havant
Southend-on-Sea
Stafford
West Suffolk where it's led by Labour

Otherwise they are in pacts with other parties leading

There has been muttering over this cartoon in the telegraph

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUa2yaYXUAA4na2?format=jpg&name=medium

Ali has defended the motion

I'm Havant. Have already written to the Green's when the vote happened. No reply as yet

Lalgarh · 15/10/2026 13:48

Oh. Lloyd was having Hard Thoughts after the resolution last week

https://x.com/lloyd_rm/status/2108676564778876965

From his Bluesky no evidence over whether those have remained

https://bsky.app/profile/russell-moyle.co.uk

Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4
ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 14:22

'Humza Yousaf has said the Green Party’s “Zionism is Racism” motion was a “misstep of the highest order”.
Speaking to Aaron Bastani on , the former Scottish first minister said: “I can’t understand why they thought this was a debate that needed to be had at this particular time, let alone any time.” He added: “I think it is a misstep of the highest order, and that’s me being very polite about it.”'

https://unherd.com/newsroom/humza-yousaf-greens-zionism-motion-was-a-misstep/

Humza Yousaf: Greens’ Zionism motion was a misstep

Humza Yousaf has said the Green Party’s “Zionism is Racism” motion was a “misstep of the highest order”. Speaking to Aaron Bastani on Novara Media, the former Scottish first minister said: “I can’t understand why they thought this was a debate that nee...

https://unherd.com/newsroom/humza-yousaf-greens-zionism-motion-was-a-misstep/

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 14:22

highame · 15/10/2026 13:32

I'm Havant. Have already written to the Green's when the vote happened. No reply as yet

You Havant heard back yet?

Sorry.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/10/2026 14:50

I thought the cartoon was hilarious 😂😂

So apt, it really caught the situation. 🤣

lcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2026 14:57

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 14:22

'Humza Yousaf has said the Green Party’s “Zionism is Racism” motion was a “misstep of the highest order”.
Speaking to Aaron Bastani on , the former Scottish first minister said: “I can’t understand why they thought this was a debate that needed to be had at this particular time, let alone any time.” He added: “I think it is a misstep of the highest order, and that’s me being very polite about it.”'

https://unherd.com/newsroom/humza-yousaf-greens-zionism-motion-was-a-misstep/

Well Humza knows about missteps.

Snp GIF by The Scottish Conservatives
fromorbit · 15/10/2026 17:51

Mothin on a publicity drive claims he is going to make the pasrty better.

'I'm The Green's Co-Deputy Leader. We're Not Divided – But We Must Rebuild Trust'
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mothin-ali-green-party-rebuild-zionism_uk_6acf28f7e4b08a0fe8548502

He could start by condemning thouse who want to get rid of Lucas. She meanwhile is writing in the New Statesman:

The “Zionism is racism” fallout
My week after Green Party conference

By Caroline Lucas

https://www.newstatesman.com/diary/2026/10/the-zionism-is-racism-fallout

Literally anything can be ‘Islamophobic’ in Green la-la land
The Greens’ Muslim wing has decreed it racist to question the Koran, to say Islam is homophobic and to go to the pub.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/10/14/literally-anything-can-be-islamophobic-in-green-la-la-land/

'I'm The Green's Co-Deputy Leader. We're Not Divided – But We Must Rebuild Trust'

Writing for HuffPost UK, Mothin Ali said the party’s ‘Zionism is racism’ motion had been “misrepresented”.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mothin-ali-green-party-rebuild-zionism_uk_6acf28f7e4b08a0fe8548502

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fromorbit · 15/10/2026 18:48

lcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2026 12:16

Labour have made an announcement

https://archive.ph/uiytG

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/10/15/labour-to-end-coalitions-with-anti-zionist-green-councils/

Although imo they're asking their Councillors to do the bare minimum, which is slightly more than the LibDems have done.

This is really pretty serious. Labour throwing petrol on Greens internal issues.

The New Statesman

ANDY BURNHAM'S ULTIMATUM TO THE GREENS HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING

Green councillors in power-sharing deals with Labour across the country have been given a week to publicly disavow their own party’s “Zionism is racism” position, as a row between the parties intensifies. In an ultimatum issued on Thursday (15 October), Labour said it would collapse its power sharing agreements with Greens in more than a dozen local authorities unless the party’s councillors rejected the controversial motion that passed through its party conference on 4 October. The NS understands that Green councillors in power-sharing areas have received letters from their Labour colleagues setting out the consequences of the Prime Minister’s position. Green councillors must publicly reject the “Zionism is racism” motion within seven days or power sharing will end.

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ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 18:55

Interesting times.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 19:01

Both Andy and Kemi have discovered that distancing yourself from the extremes might actually be good politics.

CassOle · 15/10/2026 19:12

'Mothin on a publicity drive claims he is going to make the pasrty better.'

I read your typo as 'pastry' and had to do a double take!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/10/2026 19:37

lcakethereforeIam · 15/10/2026 14:57

Well Humza knows about missteps.

Never get tired of watching that! 😂

Lalgarh · 15/10/2026 20:18

This is really pretty serious. Labour throwing petrol on Greens internal issues.

I read on Another Talkboard that on local forums after the vote, members were already wondering how or if the motion would be applied at local service level, eg procurement, service delivery etc, so it's sort of forced Labour into having to act because it impacts potentially everything.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/10/2026 22:49

The Gazaites will be raging, getting slapped down by a range of fashy institutions like Labour and the EHRC who they can’t just say fuck off to if they want to participate in elected roles

Lalgarh · 15/10/2026 22:51

They probably already hate the EHRC because How They Framed Corbyn and the single sex spaces guidelines

ThreeDeafMice · 15/10/2026 22:52

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/10/2026 22:49

The Gazaites will be raging, getting slapped down by a range of fashy institutions like Labour and the EHRC who they can’t just say fuck off to if they want to participate in elected roles

I'm waiting to hear how the EHRC, the Prime Minister and the Minister for Equalities are all shills for Israel.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/10/2026 22:53

Lalgarh · 15/10/2026 22:51

They probably already hate the EHRC because How They Framed Corbyn and the single sex spaces guidelines

Yes hence my description of “fashy” 😂

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 23:55

I assume that not only the GPEW but Scottish Greens have all been reported for hate crime?

DrBlackbird · 16/10/2026 00:17

fromorbit · 15/10/2026 17:51

Mothin on a publicity drive claims he is going to make the pasrty better.

'I'm The Green's Co-Deputy Leader. We're Not Divided – But We Must Rebuild Trust'
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mothin-ali-green-party-rebuild-zionism_uk_6acf28f7e4b08a0fe8548502

He could start by condemning thouse who want to get rid of Lucas. She meanwhile is writing in the New Statesman:

The “Zionism is racism” fallout
My week after Green Party conference

By Caroline Lucas

https://www.newstatesman.com/diary/2026/10/the-zionism-is-racism-fallout

Literally anything can be ‘Islamophobic’ in Green la-la land
The Greens’ Muslim wing has decreed it racist to question the Koran, to say Islam is homophobic and to go to the pub.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/10/14/literally-anything-can-be-islamophobic-in-green-la-la-land/

Is he dressing like an extra from Beaky Blinders to convince us of his Everyman status now?

lcakethereforeIam · 16/10/2026 10:10

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 23:55

I assume that not only the GPEW but Scottish Greens have all been reported for hate crime?

That sex shop and mushroom farm won't know what's hit them!

Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4
Lalgarh · 16/10/2026 11:22

.... I dare not ask

ArabellaScott · 16/10/2026 11:25

I wonder what happened to the Stasi Mushroom Farm/Sex Shop.

TWETMIRF · 16/10/2026 11:28

CassOle · 15/10/2026 19:12

'Mothin on a publicity drive claims he is going to make the pasrty better.'

I read your typo as 'pastry' and had to do a double take!

Me too, I love pastry so started to wonder if it could even be made better.

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