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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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ArabellaScott · Today 17:18

I wonder where she thinks this 'somewhere' ought to be? A Holiday Inn? Siberia? Her nan's spare room?

ArabellaScott · Today 17:16

'Gillian Mackay was also pressed on whether she believed Israel had a right to exist.

After a pause, she replied: “It’s a difficult one.”

She added: “They absolutely should have the right to have somewhere to be and to be able to live in peace.'

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 00:49

It’s definitely made the news before today because I commented it was pretty much what Glinner did that he got prosecuted for.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 22:13

Politics UK
NEW: Green Deputy leader Mothin Ali is being investigated by the police after a phone was smashed at a council meeting where he was pictured looking “upset”

a Green Party member allegedly took a photo of Ali looking “upset” at a Leeds council meeting debating a motion on “councillor accountability”

The phone used was then smashed on the floor

Story:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/police-investigate-green-deputy-leader-mothin-ali-smashed-phone-claim-xdcs8f0t0

This occurred on 15 September.

Only just making the news today.

Verifying Device

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/police-investigate-green-deputy-leader-mothin-ali-smashed-phone-claim-xdcs8f0t0

DrBlackbird · Yesterday 20:37

BettyBooper · Yesterday 11:14

ZP posted this yesterday on X

'Antisemitism is serious.

That’s precisely why it should never be weaponised as a political football. Labour doing so should disgust people across every community.

And all this while they continue to arm a genocide and lock up pensioners.'

And this:

'Excellent from Sheffield Green Party pointing out reservations working with Labour whilst their government arms a genocide.

If Labour chooses to destabilise local councils because they want to play party politics - then they can own the consequences for the city.'

It's just exhausting at this point.

ETA Sorry phone not letting me do links

Edited

He’s just so…. Probably would be deleted if I finished that thought. Utterly abhorrent I’ll go with. He was upset not to have come up with that ‘best defence is an offence’ (ive) line of attack thanks to the DARVO’esque tactics of Sheffield Greens. I tell you, Putin would be damn proud of that strategy.

Lalgarh · Yesterday 13:44

He's desperate not to be defenestrated by the Gaza faction.

Elsewhere I saw a discussion on entryism referencing militant and the Labour party. But the writer/ posters noted militant had been around for years embedded in Labour and had a coherent set of aims. This lot...?

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 12:35

BettyBooper · Yesterday 11:36

He literally gives no shits about throwing entire cities under the bus for the Gaza cause.

That was my exact thought!

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 11:45

As with Humza Yousaf, its not that these people nesessarily disagree about wiping Israel off the face of the earth, its just that they think saying it out loud is not the wisest move.

BettyBooper · Yesterday 11:36

He literally gives no shits about throwing entire cities under the bus for the Gaza cause.

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 11:33

BettyBooper · Yesterday 11:14

ZP posted this yesterday on X

'Antisemitism is serious.

That’s precisely why it should never be weaponised as a political football. Labour doing so should disgust people across every community.

And all this while they continue to arm a genocide and lock up pensioners.'

And this:

'Excellent from Sheffield Green Party pointing out reservations working with Labour whilst their government arms a genocide.

If Labour chooses to destabilise local councils because they want to play party politics - then they can own the consequences for the city.'

It's just exhausting at this point.

ETA Sorry phone not letting me do links

Edited

He must know that just the use of 'genocide' in this context is controversial and impedes communication.

However abhorrent, inhumane and worthy of international condemnation, killing people to take their land is not the same as killing them simply because they exist.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 11:18

What sort of squirrely mind do you have to have to come up with such guff, and not only say it out loud but post it on SM for the whole world to see. 🤯

BettyBooper · Yesterday 11:14

ZP posted this yesterday on X

'Antisemitism is serious.

That’s precisely why it should never be weaponised as a political football. Labour doing so should disgust people across every community.

And all this while they continue to arm a genocide and lock up pensioners.'

And this:

'Excellent from Sheffield Green Party pointing out reservations working with Labour whilst their government arms a genocide.

If Labour chooses to destabilise local councils because they want to play party politics - then they can own the consequences for the city.'

It's just exhausting at this point.

ETA Sorry phone not letting me do links

Lalgarh · Yesterday 10:43

Mothin Ali won a payout from a GB News hack over comments about his appearance at that rally

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gb-news-alex-armstrong-mothin-ali-b3068077.html

Private Eye reports that the investigation by Leeds into the SRA money has also been "nothing to see here" but not gone into the transparency of the process.

They also report that the green party are keeping Bindmans solicitors on a retainer to silence those critical of the leadership or party.

GB News presenter to pay damages to deputy Green Party leader over social media posts

Mothin Ali sued GB News presenter Alex Armstrong and social media commentator Bernadette Spofforth for defamation

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gb-news-alex-armstrong-mothin-ali-b3068077.html

fromorbit · Yesterday 09:45

Lalgarh · Yesterday 09:15

Oh the Lib Dems have joined the fray?

The Lib Dems were quick to condemn the Greens for racism at a party level. There doesn't seem to be an official announcement of a planned position of breaking coalitions unlike Labour.

Unsurprisingly locally some Lib Dem councillors are very quick to knife the Greens or are facing pressure to do so. They sense blood in the water anyone who knows them knows how ruthless they are. Also they have to watch out for the Tories and Labour outflanking them.

OXFORD
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26640032.lib-dem-led-alliance-threat-zionism-racism-row/

NEWCASTLE
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/pressure-lib-dem-green-pact-34777162

Lib Dem-led alliance under threat over 'Zionism is racism' row

West Oxfordshire's Lib Dem-led cabinet could be under threat over a "Zionism is racism" row.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26640032.lib-dem-led-alliance-threat-zionism-racism-row/

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fromorbit · Yesterday 09:36

Greens internal drama set to heighten. The elections at the conference put the Gazaites in charge of a key committee.

Standing Orders Committee (SOC) is a powerful institution within the Green Party that decides whether policy motions are valid, whether suspensions/expulsions are valid, and a whole batch of other vital internal decisions. And it now has a Greens for Palestine majority (3-2).

https://greenparty.org.uk/members/internal-elections/2026-internal-elections/

Chance of Greens self correcting falling. The party could implode.

2026 Internal Elections - Green Party

Autumn 2026 Committee Members Following the elections at Conference, the following candidates were elected. Alternative Disputes Resolution Committee Campaigns Committee Conferences Committee Disciplinary Committee Equalities & Diversity Committee Gree...

https://greenparty.org.uk/members/internal-elections/2026-internal-elections/

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Lalgarh · Yesterday 09:15

Oh the Lib Dems have joined the fray?

fromorbit · Yesterday 09:06

Huge division between Labour and Greens in Sheffield because Greens refuse to reveal their secret pastry recipe which Mothin developed. Oh wait that is not the reason it seems.

Labour calling out the Greens locally has huge impact. Remember Labour will be facing Greens in councils elections in May 2027 in many places. This issue is not going away. Of course it would be nice if Labour also asked if the Greens would support women being real too.

Sheffield Council coalition on verge of collapse as Greens refuse to disavow Zionism motion

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-council-collapse-greens-zionism-motion-9293102

Labour and Lib Dems press Lambeth’s Greens over ‘Zionism is Racism’ motion

https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2026/10/labour-and-lib-dems-press-lambeths-greens-over-zionism-is-racism-motion/

Labour and Lib Dems press Lambeth’s Greens over ‘Zionism is Racism’ motion

Opposition councillors have asked Lambeth’s Green leader to reassure Jewish residents over the motion on Zionism passed at his party’s national conference, while Cllr Martin Abrams has warned that …

https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2026/10/labour-and-lib-dems-press-lambeths-greens-over-zionism-is-racism-motion/

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ArabellaScott · 16/10/2026 17:25

That's a shame because the best way to make pastry better is egg.

Lalgarh · 16/10/2026 16:10

It would have to be vegan pastry for the greens

CassOle · 16/10/2026 11:46

Although, knowing the Greens, they would make it worse and then announce that it was racist colonialism, or sumfink to state that their better pastry was actually worse.

TWETMIRF · 16/10/2026 11:28

CassOle · 15/10/2026 19:12

'Mothin on a publicity drive claims he is going to make the pasrty better.'

I read your typo as 'pastry' and had to do a double take!

Me too, I love pastry so started to wonder if it could even be made better.

ArabellaScott · 16/10/2026 11:25

I wonder what happened to the Stasi Mushroom Farm/Sex Shop.

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