In quite the turnaround Scottish Labour say the support Sandie Peggie, and would not support the GRR bill "knowing what they know now"!

Scottish women have bloody had it with the nonsense.

As inded they had in 2022/23!

https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=628382

An article in the Spectator on Labour's volte face farce

https://archive.ph/OxwPN

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/whats-behind-scottish-labours-gender-u-turn/

This bit

Yet that clatter you hear is the sound of jaws dropping violently at the audacity. Shock at this astonishing volte face by Sarwar will be most keenly felt by two of his MSPs, Claire Baker and Carol Mochan, who were forced to resign their frontbench posts in the Scottish parliament when they declined to support the Gender Recognition Reform Bill.

I just want to share a pic of the map of the current petition to repeal the GRA.

Scottish women have bloody had it with the nonsense.

Can someone explain what Pam Duncan Glancy has done? I think she's doing an okay job as shadow scottish education secretary but I haven't noticed anything she's said or done on gender ideology?

She was on the equalities committee during the GRR Bill and a driver (if not the driver) of Labour’s stance . She treated many of us appallingly and dismissed all concerns.

Don’t know re TV and radio, but there’s now an article on the BBC website (Scotland news).

This one?

Government accused of 'cowardice' in gender row www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm17y4e3zro

How many times can we say it? Maybe if they weren’t part of the ‘special’ group working for the praise shining down from the activists who were celebrated at the time, they might have listened. But I doubt it. It took the latest polling, once Labour had put their toe in the water, to give these pollies the newly found conviction.

What a fucking waste. What a fucking mess!!!

Yup. I wrote to all my MSPs . I did have some support but half of them said my concerns were invalid, blah , blah.

Don’t know re TV and radio, but there’s now an article on the BBC website (Scotland news).

The only plausible explanation is that the people who voted for the GRR were either malicious misogynists or halfwits.

Which is why the BBC keep trying to angle to get funding from taxes instead.

https://x.com/glasgowpam/status/1436418448419135500

'For the avoidance of doubt. Trans women are women, trans men are men. Trans rights are human rights. For as long as I’m an MSP, equality means equality, for everyone, without exception.'

8:57 PM · Sep 10, 2021

PDG has been very firmly TWAW all the way through the GRR Bill and beyond.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4729635-a-reminder-of-the-people-who-said-there-was-no-evidence

Can someone explain what Pam Duncan Glancy has done? I think she's doing an okay job as shadow scottish education secretary

Jist a note that whilst Labour have their own shadow cabinet, it is the conservatives who are the second biggest party.

Genius let’s do it

I know it isn't.
It's a question I'd like to know thw answer to though.

Anyone know if BBC Scotland have covered this yet? I’m getting increasingly annoyed at the omission of any coverage of this saga. I read that hundreds of thousands of people have recently cancelled their licenses. What is the point of supporting an ‘independent’ trusted public broadcaster with strict rules on impartiality if it is no longer trusted or impartial?

De lurking as one who has been turbo-peaked by Sandie.
Anyone get the sense that some politicians have been waiting for an opportunity to fling themselves from this runaway bandwagon? And maybe also NHS Scotland (and other public sector orgs) hoping that this ET sounds the death knell for gender woo so they can finally face down the cry-bullies?

Can someone explain what Pam Duncan Glancy has done? I think she's doing an okay job as shadow scottish education secretary but I haven't noticed anything she's said or done on gender ideology?

I quite like Jackie Baillie, she's my MSP and has mostly been good and helpful with a few issues I've had. She's been good at standing up to Sturgeon too (although Ruth Davidson was best at that).

Cannot abide Anas Sarwar though and the poster who quite fancies him - I really hope you are joking. He's a weasel.

I didn't know the Scottish Labour Conference was this weekend. That will be interesting. Wonder what the mood will be there. I expect a few protesters...

To be fair my Labour MSP did acknowledge there might be problems ( his reply to me below )and assured me they would be addressed after the first stage. Needless to say they weren't and then they were all whipped to vote for the bill

Thank you for contacting me to let me know your views regarding the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill introduced by the Scottish Government.

The current process of obtaining a Gender Recognition can be a lengthy, traumatic and undignified process for trans people. Scottish Labour stood on a manifesto commitment at the last election in support of Gender Recognition Reform. I will therefore support the principle of reform today at the Stage 1 vote and allow the Scottish Government’s draft bill to proceed to the committee amendment stage.

However, I do recognise there are many genuine concerns about the potential impact of the proposed legislation and the amendment stages will therefore be important in attempting to address them.

My Labour colleagues and I want the Bill to be amended to make it clear in the legislation that the protections in the Equality Act 2010 remain in place. This includes the operation of the exemptions with regard to single sex spaces. The Scottish Government have already been made aware of this position and this will be made clear again in today’s debate.

We also recognise there are also a number of other concerns particularly about the process for gaining a Gender Recognition Certificate and the age at which this can be obtained by an individual. There also needs to be improvements to the proposed provision of support and information for applicants. We will be exploring and considering possible amendments in these areas too.

I am committed to properly scrutinising the legislation to ensure it is fit for purpose and it protects the rights of all. I appreciate that you would have preferred I voted against the legislation at Stage 1, but I hope you can understand why I believe it is essential for the Bill to continue to further parliamentary stages where it can and should be amended to address the concerns that exist in order that it has the confidence of trans people and the wider public.

Have just seen there is a joint letter from Sex Matters, MBM, FWS and FPFW to the Scottish Government saying they are in breach of Workplace Regulations in not providing single sex facilities.
See https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/20250218-Letter-to-Neil-Gray.pdf

And reasons for sending the letter here https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/the-scottish-government-should-take-action-to-protect-women-at-work/

Thats not a part of the tribunal at all.

I decided to sign the latest repeal the GRA petition (despite issues with it pointed out by PPs) and got inbox irony

I've asked this before but does anyone know the answer.
If Dr Upton wins, which basically is saying he is a women, if a female patient asks for a woman doctor and Dr Upton turns up, where does she stand? The hospital would have already ruled she is a women so how can the patient then say she isn't?

Mic drop 😁

Gradually then all of a sudden...