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TwistedWonder · 20/11/2024 20:47

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-canadian-mother-was-told-to-be-more-inclusive-after-complaining-about-a-male-wearing-a-childs-bikini-while-showering-with-young-girls-at-her-local-pool

The really have lost the plot - how can anyone justify prioritising men with a fetish over the safeguarding of children?

EXCLUSIVE: Canadian Mother Was Told To Be More "Inclusive" After Complaining About A Male Wearing A "Child's Bikini" While Showering With Young Girls At Her Local Pool - Reduxx

The mother of a young girl in British Columbia, Canada, is speaking out after a man in a pink, sparkly bikini — adorned with sparkles, frills and princess tiaras — was found showering in the female changing room of her local public pool. After reportin...

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-canadian-mother-was-told-to-be-more-inclusive-after-complaining-about-a-male-wearing-a-childs-bikini-while-showering-with-young-girls-at-her-local-pool

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Bodeganights · 21/11/2024 18:54

coxesorangepippin · 21/11/2024 16:31

I live in Quebec and honestly there's none of that nonsense over here

There most certainly is plenty of "that nonsense " in Quebec and the whole of Canada..... and the UK and Spain and Germany and etc etc

You may not be seeing reports about it, but it's there.
I'd suggest a site to look at if your brave enough? But you'll have to figure out which site by yourself. If you want.

TempestTost · 21/11/2024 17:27

BettyBooper · 21/11/2024 12:45

I didn't get from the article that she's a 'sympathizer'. More that she supports freedom of speech.

This is uncomfortable when what is being said is grim, but I'd rather know what people's views are than have the press censor it.

I guess the days when the ACLU, in the person of David Goldberger, fought for the rights of Nazi's to march, are long forgotten.

I'm not sure what journalistic integrity is supposed to mean in 2024,because it has nothing to do with the ethics journalists were actually supposed to uphold.

coxesorangepippin · 21/11/2024 16:31

I live in Quebec and honestly there's none of that nonsense over here

Bodeganights · 21/11/2024 16:28

Oooh one of my posts with names in has been removed, wonder if the other post with one name will also be removed. It's almost as if certain men have something to hide, I wonder what it could be???

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/11/2024 14:09

This must have been a different occasion...last year. ( from the Toronto Sun)

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-transgender-female-swimmer-50-changes-with-young-girls-at-barrie-event

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/11/2024 14:03

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 12:51

The personal attack was the "you're telling on yourself here"; not asking me to reflect (but being fairly vague about which part of what I wrote that I needed to reflect on). I engaged in good faith -- I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally. I will try to remember to stay off the feminist threads. It's a little echo chambery in here. See ya.

This is the board for discussions on sex and 'gender'. It is well established as a place for women to meet and discuss the issues around gender ideology and its impact upon women and children. For many years it was the only place.

You might well be happier on another board if you are not open to discuss this most fundamental issue - without making personal accusations and slurs against other women.

AlisonDonut · 21/11/2024 13:14

All they have is 'she's a nazi/right wing/extremist'. It must be pretty depressing.

Bodeganights · 21/11/2024 13:10

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TwistedWonder · 21/11/2024 13:09

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 12:51

The personal attack was the "you're telling on yourself here"; not asking me to reflect (but being fairly vague about which part of what I wrote that I needed to reflect on). I engaged in good faith -- I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally. I will try to remember to stay off the feminist threads. It's a little echo chambery in here. See ya.

Echo chamber = not bowing to the almighty penis and accepting the women’s rights is akin to Nazism

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Bodeganights · 21/11/2024 13:03

Sneezeless · 21/11/2024 05:50

Canada, the home of the fragrant Stefonknee Wolscht.

And the not so fragrant veronica ivy

NecessaryScene · 21/11/2024 12:56

I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally.

Well, yes, when you attacked someone personally - particularly a woman who many of us know from following for years is incredibly brave and reliable - you got pushback.

You don't get to whinge about being "attacked personally" after the things you wrote on this thread.

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 12:51

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The personal attack was the "you're telling on yourself here"; not asking me to reflect (but being fairly vague about which part of what I wrote that I needed to reflect on). I engaged in good faith -- I just said I didn't believe the story and I have serious issues with the source of the story. Then I got attacked personally. I will try to remember to stay off the feminist threads. It's a little echo chambery in here. See ya.

NecessaryScene · 21/11/2024 12:45

I also think journalistic integrity is important.

You can only dream of having as much journalistic integrity as Reduxx, or Slatz. Either you're incredibly uninformed about their track record, or you're just trolling.

The article above seems to have no bearing on Reduxx or Slatz's reliability, unless the claim is that she is supposed to have misrepresented the neo-Nazi in question or made up something false about him? I don't see anything like that.

BettyBooper · 21/11/2024 12:45

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:54

Then what is wrong with my pointing out that I doubt the veracity of this story because the editor of Reduxx has many past instances of lacking journalistic integrity, which include that she is a neo nazi sympathizer? Why is that telling on myself? Why am I being personally attacked for being critical of the news source of this story?

I didn't get from the article that she's a 'sympathizer'. More that she supports freedom of speech.

This is uncomfortable when what is being said is grim, but I'd rather know what people's views are than have the press censor it.

UltraLiteLife · 21/11/2024 12:41

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Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:54

UltraLiteLife · 21/11/2024 11:45

As above, the invitation was to reflect on the latter part of your previous comment.

It's a shame that you didn't understand that or affect not to understand it.

By the by, I could affect to wonder if you're in favour of the scenario outlined in the OP but that would be absurd. I choose to believe that you're engaging with some degree of good faith.

Then what is wrong with my pointing out that I doubt the veracity of this story because the editor of Reduxx has many past instances of lacking journalistic integrity, which include that she is a neo nazi sympathizer? Why is that telling on myself? Why am I being personally attacked for being critical of the news source of this story?

UltraLiteLife · 21/11/2024 11:45

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:34

I think it holds up to a nanosecond of scrutiny, sure. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/the-baron-nsclrp

As above, the invitation was to reflect on the latter part of your previous comment.

It's a shame that you didn't understand that or affect not to understand it.

By the by, I could affect to wonder if you're in favour of the scenario outlined in the OP but that would be absurd. I choose to believe that you're engaging with some degree of good faith.

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:34

UltraLiteLife · 21/11/2024 11:24

I invite you to reflect on the content of the latter part of your content and consider whether it holds up to a nanosecond of scrutiny.

ETA: Just to reiterate, I'm not in favour of adult males showering with young children in the setting described above, whether or not the adult is clad in a bikini or more clothing.

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I think it holds up to a nanosecond of scrutiny, sure. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/the-baron-nsclrp

This Student Newspaper Let A Nazi Sympathizer Write For Them

The Baron published an interview with a "national socialist" and let him contribute an op-ed to the paper.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/the-baron-nsclrp

UltraLiteLife · 21/11/2024 11:24

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:16

I have read the comments and I take some of your points but I also think journalistic integrity is important. I don't like neo nazi apologists -- is that not allowed on the feminist board? Okay...

I invite you to reflect on the content of the latter part of your content and consider whether it holds up to a nanosecond of scrutiny.

ETA: Just to reiterate, I'm not in favour of adult males showering with young children in the setting described above, whether or not the adult is clad in a bikini or more clothing.

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 11:16

PurpleSparkledPixie · 21/11/2024 10:09

Anna Slatz is a neo nazi apologist

You gave it away too soon.

I have read the comments and I take some of your points but I also think journalistic integrity is important. I don't like neo nazi apologists -- is that not allowed on the feminist board? Okay...

PurpleSparkledPixie · 21/11/2024 10:09

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 00:56

The co-founder and editor, Anna Slatz is a neo nazi apologist and associated with Rebel News, which regularly manufactures/incites news stories. I'd believe her as far as I could throw her.

Anna Slatz is a neo nazi apologist

You gave it away too soon.

TwistedWonder · 21/11/2024 09:48

Sleepydoor · 21/11/2024 01:37

I haven't minimized women's concerns at all. I think the idea of this happening in Canada is batshit crazy. I know people who work at parks and rec and they take this kind of thing very seriously. They would remove the guy and call the cops. I think Reduxx is seriously suspect. That's just my opinion.

You’ve not seen the video of the camera crew being thrown out for asking about the 50 year old man who identifies as a teenage girl being allowed to compete with school girls in swimming events?

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Chersfrozenface · 21/11/2024 09:44

I know people who work at parks and rec and they take this kind of thing very seriously. They would remove the guy and call the cops.

Really?

The first email from Bree Dobler, the assistant manager of the recreation centre, says
"..the District of Saanich welcomes and celebrates diversity, and we encourage visitors to our Recreation Facilities to use the restroom or changeroom with which they identify and where they feel most safe."

Her second email says "…everyone’s gender identity and expressions are valid. Everyone is welcome in our centres in the changeroom where they feel most safe. Gender expression and identity is protected under BC’s Human Rights Code and we are proud to have a Diversity in Changerooms Policy in our centres."

So tell me, do you really think the staff would have removed the guy and called the cops?

Sneezeless · 21/11/2024 05:50

Canada, the home of the fragrant Stefonknee Wolscht.

fromorbit · 21/11/2024 05:41

Reduxx have been proven consistently right and take accuracy seriously. Just because they are doing this on a shoestring doesn't mean they are less worthy. They break key stories which the mainstream outlets repeat. Amy is well known as a local hero of course people would come to her with a story about this kind of thing. One hopes that most places would stop this behaviour but maybe this location is fully captured. Maybe the management is dodgy. As the report says something similar happened in another town.

There is a good Canada election thread here. The Liberals are screwed, but how far the Conservatives will push back on gender remains to be seen. A lot want to fight back for sure. The main change will be the lack cover from federal government for whatever abuses the genderists are up to I suspect. I think the awful stuff we hear about from Canada is only the tip of the iceberg.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5211772-5211772-canadian-general-elections-due-within-the-year-anybody-know-how-theyre-likely-to-go