Imane Khelif medical report reported in Reduxx

It seems that The Correspondent are taking legal action against Khelif as a result of his lawyers described their investigation as fake news

@eatfigs I think they are maybe referring to this that I posted on the AIBU threat about Khelif (English translation available on site)

feministpost.it/dal-mondo/khelif-e-maschio-sono-in-possesso-dei-sex-test-parla-il-giornalista-francese-che-ha-riaperto-il-caso/

Caster Semenya seems to have got away with it so far without any great quibble.

https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1855012351399116946

lcakethereforeIam · 06/11/2024 11:01

He shall sue!

That'll be interesting.

"I am a woman."

Ah, please have a chromosome test to establish the veracity of that.

"My passport says female. I've got a women's gold medal from the Olympics."

Hmm, OK, but we need to do a scientific test to check whether that's right.

"Waaah!"

From the article above:

“The ferocity of the row shows no sign of relenting. The Algerian Olympic Committee has this week criticised the “ongoing and baseless attacks” on Khelif in the wake of a leaked medical assessment, published in France, that again purports to show the boxer is XY. “These attacks aim to tarnish the image of an athlete who has brought honour to our nation on the international stage. We firmly condemn these attempts at destabilisation, which have no place in the world of sports.” The IOC has expressed similar sentiments.”

They misspelled the word dishonour.

IBA claims to be the sole worldwide governing body for the sport of boxing in all its forms - but I see that might not be the full story.. and their rules updated in March 2024 state:

“Women/Female/Girl” means an individual with chromosome XX. For this purpose, the Boxers can be submitted to a random and/or targeted gender test to confirm the above, which will serve for the gender eligibility criteria for the IBA Competitions.
https://www.iba.sport/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/20240303-IBA-Technical-Competition-Rules-v7-clean.pdf

This is the only set of guidelines that I have seen that states this clearly, unambiguously, without reservation.

I wonder where or how IK will compete?

What's new are the direct quotes from Chris Roberts, the IBA chief executive.

I think that because of confidentiality issues, the IBA previously had only said something vague about Khelif and the other boxer failing sex tests, but in this article they say exactly what they were:

“It was a chromosome test, to check for XX or XY, and these two boxers didn’t meet the eligibility criteria, because they both fell into the XY category,”

This is one of the earlier articles, and it's not clear at all what tests were carried out or what the results were.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/08/03/boxing-gender-dispute-imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-iba-ioc/

Mark Adams [IOC] has also grown increasingly emboldened in moving to undermine the IBA’s gender tests on Lin and Khelif in his daily press conferences.

“We have no knowledge of what the tests were,” he said on Friday. “They were cobbled together, as I understand, overnight. There was a change in the results so we don’t want to go there. I think if you start working on suspicions, then we’re in trouble.”

On what exact grounds did the Greens suspend Shahrar Ali for saying Khelif was male?

Was it on the grounds that what he said was untrue? Or that it was contrary to Green Party rules?

Can an organisation have rules that forbid members saying particular things even if they are true and can be proved to be true? And the sanction for breaking that rule being suspension or expulsion?

Also, what would the standing in a court or tribunal be of a media story about what a journalist says he saw in a report which has not officially been released by the commissioners or the subject?

I'm just wondering about the practicalities.

And I hope he does!

Interesting further impact of the proof that Khelif is male. The Greens suspended Shahrar Ali for a while for saying Khelif was male. Ali was let back in because they bungled the process. He now can take them to court with medical proof he was telling the truth.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5196625-green-party-reinstates-shahrar-ali-after-bungling-the-expulsion?

@Duc748 I agree there's nothing new but it's a good summary of everything that's happened to date and it clarifies that the IBA tested for chromosomes not just testosterone levels. Khelif, and Lin, both had the Y. As in boY.

That's interesting about AB, but am I missing something, surely there's nothing new in the Telegraph piece? It's no more than, the IBA reiterates what it said before.

That's Amy Broadhurst in the middle - she's the boxer who described in an interview - unrelated to the Khélif affair - that she tried to step up a weight category, but just put on weight not muscle, and lost strength and condition.
[I gave the full reference for the interview with AB in the discussion during the Olympics, sorry I don't have it to hand.]

At the same time, IK was stepping up a weight category, putting on a couple of kilos of muscle, thanks to having gone through a male puberty.

So AB was able to beat IK version 2022, but IK v.2024 is a different, and more dangerous proposition.

Oliver Brown has written another excellent, thorough article for the Telegraph

https://archive.ph/A3hOz

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2024/11/06/imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-test-failure-iba-chief/

“It was a chromosome test, to check for XX or XY, and these two boxers didn’t meet the eligibility criteria, because they both fell into the XY category,” Chris Roberts, the IBA chief executive

All the news that's fit to print.

Surprise surprise, no mention at all that the leaked information is a medical report demonstrating conclusively she’s a chap inside.

He might be able to sue over the leaking of the documents.

But any legal action is just going to produce more sunlight.

JKR, Elon and Trump don't exactly appear to be quaking in their boots over these legal threats. Probably the one most at risk of any repercussions is JKR, being in Scotland with their hate crime law.

That was my first thought, but I can't rule out the possibility that there might be some jurisdiction that would be favourable to IK.

I think it's all bluster.

Interesting that there's no mention of the jurisdiction where IK supposedly intends to take action. It might not be France, since the Le Correspondant article will have been read in any number of countries and through multiple platforms.

That BBC item is hardly anything more than a re-hash of what was said at the time. Who will IK take legal action against? Le Correspondant, presumably? Not heard anything more about these 'ongoing' (says the Graun) legal battles, though. I'm sure JKR and the rest aren't quaking in their boots.

Not sure how you can take legal action against something true. Maybe there is an argument that the report should have been confidential?

Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/nov/06/olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-takes-legal-action-over-male-chromosomes-claims