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Elon Musk makes bombshell claim about his transgender child

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fromorbit · 23/07/2024 06:31

Musk's position which he has held for a while is made made clear in this Jordan Peterson interview:

Elon Musk makes bombshell claim about his transgender son Xavier and how he was 'tricked': 'It's evil'

Elon Musk spoke out about how he believes he was 'tricked' by the woke mind virus into allowing his child to become a transgender woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13661573/Elon-Musk-makes-bombshell-claim-transgender-child-Tesla-CEO-tricked-evil.html

I think this is the counterpart to the TRA parents who are locked into supporting gender stuff. The parents who have seen through it and are committed to fighting back. Either you go the gender crit route or you back the right.

Musk is now funding Trump's election campaign to 45 million a month.

Interestingly Musk weirdly told JKR off for being too obsessed with women's rights recently.

The interesting thing will be that even though Musk is clearly against gender stuff he like other men with that position he will not really be targeted to the same extent a woman will be. Hardly any TRA will leave X or refuse to admire Musk's various projects. They won't abandon Marvel which put Musk in a movie Iron Man 2 in the same way they want to cancel Harry Potter. Because men get to do what they want.

This is another reason the gender project is increasingly unravelling. They want to stop women saying things, but at the same time they are not as concerned when powerful male dominated groups like Catholicism, Islam or powerful male individuals like Musk or Eminem say similar things.

Elon Musk makes bombshell claim about his transgender child

Elon Musk spoke out about how he believes he was 'tricked' by the woke mind virus into allowing his child to become a transgender woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13661573/Elon-Musk-makes-bombshell-claim-transgender-child-Tesla-CEO-tricked-evil.html

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fromorbit · 23/07/2024 09:51

GrumpyPanda · 23/07/2024 08:46

Musk is now funding Trump's election campaign to 45 million a month.

He's a union-buster and reportedly is pissed off that he wasn't invited to White House electric vehicle summits and Tesla didn't get access to the infrastructure funding on the same terms as less anti-social producers. Boo-hoo.

Elon is a ruthless capitalist with the history to show it. However he WILL never be as hated by TRAs as much as JKR who wrote popular children's books and then went round saying women existed . Even though Musk in practice has done a huge amount to derail the gender train in the last few years by taking over twitter. If he is a key figure in getting Trump elected it will have even more impact in the US.

That is the point. Not even protecting the gender train is enough to undermine the importance of rich male privilege. You have to keep on twitter and making Elon money. Men can say anything. Their freedom has to be respected. It is kind of poetic that an autistic sexist male is going to help bring this whole thing down, but not surprising as it is their kryptonite.

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/07/2024 09:50

It's very sad. You can see he is traumatised by his experience. It's annoying that he is constantly interrupted when he seems to need time to regroup and collect his thoughts.

Chloe's response is also very sad. So many families have been destroyed.

MalcadorTheSigillite · 23/07/2024 09:50

@SonicTheHodgeheg thats not what the brain chip is for at all. Amongst other things it's to "address brain injuries or spinal injuries and make up for whatever lost capacity somebody has with a chip."

Leah5678 · 23/07/2024 09:46

Musk as an individual baffles me supposedly a genius and in all fairness he must be pretty smart to have got where he is but then he does some really silly out of pocket things like naming one child x1275 or whatever it was and allowing his child to take cross sex hormones.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 23/07/2024 09:46

Runor · 23/07/2024 07:30

The “woke mind virus” is an interesting concept for Musk. Here is a man who is experimenting on monkeys by implanting chips into their brains - in preparation for being able to offer humans the chance to do that too (once he can get the monkeys to stop dying…)

This is very interesting because Musk has Asperger’s which he believes can be cured, hence the chip development quest.
Very similar to ND people being tricked into thinking gender is the cure to feeling different to the rest of the world.
The medical community should be ashamed experimenting on vulnerable people and tricking parents into signing permission to do this so they don’t face legal troubles later.

ChaChaChooey · 23/07/2024 09:41

Fukuraptor · 23/07/2024 09:08

I wasn't familiar with the term mind virus (which sounds a bit out there) but came across it yesterday on the Diary of a CEO podcast with regard to aging.

His guest was making the argument that if we stay active into our 70s then it is only at that point that we really begin to physically slow down. Stephen described our expectation that we are going to experience aging effects before that it as a mind virus, i.e. people assume they will decline, so they are less active, so they cause they lose strength, flexibility, mobility etc. I thought it was an interesting idea.

I first heard that phrase from Gad Saad

rumblegrumble · 23/07/2024 09:39

Meowzabubz · 23/07/2024 08:40

All his children are estranged from him by his own design. He's the white Nick Cannon. An out and proud eugenicist who is just trying to spread his 'superior' seed as far as he can. If you believe he is in any way actively involved or invested in the lives of the 2-3 kids he's been popping out each year I have a beach side property in the alps to sell you. I'd be inpressed if he could even name all his children and who their mother's are.

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Er, he's regularly spotted with his older children and was very often seen with the younger until recently when it's assumed either he or the mothers wanted more privacy for them. He is believed to live with 3 of them and have bi-weekly custody of the others. He was always very visible in the lives of the oldest ones whilst they were growing up and has attended their school events, graduations etc. I have never heard of him openly promoting eugenics, do you have a link? There are three mothers, one of whom he was married to for many years and another who he dated for several years and still spends time with. He is believed to be living with the third. Also, his stance has very garnered him very little praise but rather great condemnation, and has seen him further and further estranged from 'the cool kids' who are almost all entirely devoted to the trans movement.

You seem to have some sort of visceral hatred for the man - he may have some extremely unpalatable views and I (like the rest of the world) wish he would get the hell off Twitter, but he is also a father who lost his first-born as a baby and has now lost his second. The fact that he himself was apparently coerced into enabling it must be unimaginably painful. He appears to have done everything in his power to maintain that relationship, including selling all of his homes and moving into a tiny prefab as this particular child attacked him for being rich; there was an interview with his then-girlfriend (mother to 3 of his children) which made it sound like he had a full-on breakdown where he dismissed his security and refused to spend almost any money at all. The child clearly had/has some deep-rooted issues and I would feel enormous sympathy for any parent encountering this.

fromorbit · 23/07/2024 09:35

Ineverlose · 23/07/2024 08:51

I’m like Elon, a parent who has been hurt by this. It’s devastating. It levels us all.
also, what did Eminem say?

Eminem's new album about two weeks old is chock full of shocking misgendering "crimes". It is now a worldwide bestseller. Thread here.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5087238-eminem-comes-for-gender-nonsense-low-pushback?page=3

Page 3 | Eminem comes for gender nonsense - low pushback | Mumsnet

His new single Houdini which has 15 million views already is pretty scathing with jokes about transitioning cats. Pretty catchy: Like other male sta...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5087238-eminem-comes-for-gender-nonsense-low-pushback?page=3

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MalcadorTheSigillite · 23/07/2024 09:35

PlanetJanette · 23/07/2024 09:30

Except there is no evidence that his child was sterilised.

And transphobic parents complaining and saying their children are dead, because their trans kids do not want to be associated with transphobic parents, is a whole vibe but not one I have any sympathy with.

Funny that on this board, you see lots of support for adult children going no contact with toxic parents - but when a trans adult does that, the immediate assumption is that the only possible reason is the 'woke mind virus' rather than having a toxic parent.

If your child has taken puberty blockers - they are sterilised, permanently.

As for "my child is dead" thats what deadnaming means. He said is son, Xavier, no longer exists, is effectively dead. Thats what this woke madness does to families.

This is literally what queer theory is all about, destroying traditional family boundaries and structure, ultimate aim? There are a lot of theories

illinivich · 23/07/2024 09:34

I dont think many parents think its possible to change sex, i think they are motivated to keep their child safe, happy and healthy and are making decisions to 'trans' their children in increments without realising it.

An unhappy child seems more contented to wear different clothes, then change their name. When that isnt enough, theyll wear binders or bras and see professionals who will offer the family PB. Then eventually wrong sex hormones and surgery.

In environments where this is seen as normal, and money makes it possible, they can reach the end position very quickly, and the parents are still left with a son or daughter, barely into adulthood, who they can see still isnt happy or healthy.

After that parents have a choice to either blame society for not accepting their child or blame society for normalising the process.

S1lverCandle · 23/07/2024 09:34

PlanetJanette · 23/07/2024 09:30

Except there is no evidence that his child was sterilised.

And transphobic parents complaining and saying their children are dead, because their trans kids do not want to be associated with transphobic parents, is a whole vibe but not one I have any sympathy with.

Funny that on this board, you see lots of support for adult children going no contact with toxic parents - but when a trans adult does that, the immediate assumption is that the only possible reason is the 'woke mind virus' rather than having a toxic parent.

If Xavier was put on puberty blockers, then Xavier was sterilised. You must know that.

MalcadorTheSigillite · 23/07/2024 09:33

Firealarm1414 · 23/07/2024 06:55

I'm amused by how so many of the liberals who now hate musk and call him right wing, James bond villain etc etc, drive teslas. They claim to disagree with everything he does but yet they don't want to give up their "look I'm progressive, I care about the environment and I'm also rich!" status/virtue symbol. Says it all.

I drive a Tesla and it's not because of that it's because they're great fast safe cheap to run cars to be honest.

PlanetJanette · 23/07/2024 09:30

SidekickSylvia · 23/07/2024 09:19

I don't think it matters what you think of Elon, either as a person or a parent. What's relevant is what he has experienced with his son, and how it happened, and why it was even possible. He is possibly the most famous person that has experienced a child being deliberately sterilised at a young age due to gender ideology. Millions of people have watched his video, and seen his genuine regret and sadness that this happened to his family. Whatever else you think of him, I think his intention in doing this is to support and warn other parents of the brutal reality of gender ideology's horrific experimental end game.

Except there is no evidence that his child was sterilised.

And transphobic parents complaining and saying their children are dead, because their trans kids do not want to be associated with transphobic parents, is a whole vibe but not one I have any sympathy with.

Funny that on this board, you see lots of support for adult children going no contact with toxic parents - but when a trans adult does that, the immediate assumption is that the only possible reason is the 'woke mind virus' rather than having a toxic parent.

sheroku · 23/07/2024 09:27

I feel extremely sorry for this troubled young person who will now have millions of people googling their name. In the interview Musk seemed more concerned about the impact on himself "I have a dead son" than what's going on with his own child. When asked about his estrangement from said child a couple of years ago he said "Can't win 'em all".

The guy is a narcissist and everything he says and does is cloaked in self interest. He makes my skin crawl.

Hopefully this interview at least helps to spread awareness of the fact that puberty blockers are not harmless and suicide stats are grossly misrepresented.

SidekickSylvia · 23/07/2024 09:19

I don't think it matters what you think of Elon, either as a person or a parent. What's relevant is what he has experienced with his son, and how it happened, and why it was even possible. He is possibly the most famous person that has experienced a child being deliberately sterilised at a young age due to gender ideology. Millions of people have watched his video, and seen his genuine regret and sadness that this happened to his family. Whatever else you think of him, I think his intention in doing this is to support and warn other parents of the brutal reality of gender ideology's horrific experimental end game.

Fukuraptor · 23/07/2024 09:14

Chloe once again showing how beautifully empathetic and thoughtful she is. Thanks for sharing her response Alison.

Combattingthemoaners · 23/07/2024 09:12

Firealarm1414 · 23/07/2024 06:55

I'm amused by how so many of the liberals who now hate musk and call him right wing, James bond villain etc etc, drive teslas. They claim to disagree with everything he does but yet they don't want to give up their "look I'm progressive, I care about the environment and I'm also rich!" status/virtue symbol. Says it all.

I don’t think driving a Tesla is that deep.

Fukuraptor · 23/07/2024 09:08

I wasn't familiar with the term mind virus (which sounds a bit out there) but came across it yesterday on the Diary of a CEO podcast with regard to aging.

His guest was making the argument that if we stay active into our 70s then it is only at that point that we really begin to physically slow down. Stephen described our expectation that we are going to experience aging effects before that it as a mind virus, i.e. people assume they will decline, so they are less active, so they cause they lose strength, flexibility, mobility etc. I thought it was an interesting idea.

ThreeWordHarpy · 23/07/2024 09:06

It’s possible to feel empathy for the child, and sympathy for Elon as a parent in this situation. But also at the same time to be wary of Elon as he appears to be a very contradictory, unpredictable character who is also extremely rich.

It’s interesting because I’m similarly wary of Bezos, because although he doesn’t tend towards unpredictability and self publicity in the same way, he is also extremely rich and spunking his money on vanity space projects.

Andthereitis · 23/07/2024 09:03

People have been captured, tricked, fooled, and befuddled.

The people who have set out to do this are not sane rational humans.
The belief that humans can change sex is pure nonsense.

Those that come through this and realise they are responsible for torturing and mutilation will not sleep well. Their hands will ne're be clean.
Some will never reflect properly on the truth of what they've done.

Until it's all gone young humans will continue to be medicalised and tortured for a lie.

AlisonDonut · 23/07/2024 08:54

Do you have to be a good parent then, to be worthy of not being lied to by medical professionals who want to transition your child?

Chloe Cole has posted a response to Elon.

https://x.com/ChoooCole/status/1815544063254466691

x.com

https://x.com/ChoooCole/status/1815544063254466691

Toseland · 23/07/2024 08:53

I agree with him about the mind virus, however anyone over 20 will know that there were no 'trans kids' when they were growing up, no suicides at school due to 'gender' and that it's all made up nonsense. I can't forgive adults going along with this.

Ineverlose · 23/07/2024 08:51

I’m like Elon, a parent who has been hurt by this. It’s devastating. It levels us all.
also, what did Eminem say?

GrumpyPanda · 23/07/2024 08:46

Musk is now funding Trump's election campaign to 45 million a month.

He's a union-buster and reportedly is pissed off that he wasn't invited to White House electric vehicle summits and Tesla didn't get access to the infrastructure funding on the same terms as less anti-social producers. Boo-hoo.

Moontoboon · 23/07/2024 08:43

What did Eminem say?