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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eminem comes for gender nonsense - low pushback

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fromorbit · 01/06/2024 14:14

His new single Houdini which has 15 million views already is pretty scathing with jokes about transitioning cats. Pretty catchy:

Like other male stars who question this stuff Gervais, Chapelle, Alice Cooper etc he won't get seriously cancelled. Indeed interestingly even though his position is blatant in the song a lot of press so far does not even mention it. The main focus is talking about Eminem dissing Megan Thee Stallion, which is fairly typical for him see what he said about Britney, Christina Aguilera etc.

Eminem has a genderfluid them daughter Stevie which Eminem clearly thinks is nonsense. However the daughter APPEARS in the video with her two sisters to look shocked and get it more views. So Dad can misgender away apparently.

The BBC article on his return doesn't even mention any of this. Remember women artists were treated as pariahs for just questioning any of this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clee3445w0lo

Even more telling is the Pink News article. Remember how insane the coverage Pink News was of JKR. Here Eminem gets treated as basically a bit of a edgy jokester rather than a person triggering a trans genocide.

Eminem takes swipe at RuPaul and Megan Thee Stallion on new single ‘Houdini’
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/31/eminem-houdini-megan-the-stallion-rupaul-trans/

I am not sidelining Eminem's own love of edgy women hate here. He has said a bunch of repellent stuff, but cancelling him over it didn't work twenty years ago and is not going to work now. Just noting the massive double standards. Also this suggests the narrative is breaking down a little further.

Eminem - Houdini [Official Music Video]

Eminem - HoudiniListen: https://eminem.lnk.to/Houdini http://eminem.comhttps://www.facebook.com/eminemhttps://twitter.com/eminemhttps://www.instagram.com/emi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22tVWwmTie8

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Maaate · 03/06/2024 18:38

There's been this whole meme going around on tiktok for the last few months where millennials warn Gen Z about not pissing off Gen X and now it's switched to "now look what you've done, you woke Shady up" 😂

Similarlyplaced · 03/06/2024 18:55

Maaate · 03/06/2024 18:38

There's been this whole meme going around on tiktok for the last few months where millennials warn Gen Z about not pissing off Gen X and now it's switched to "now look what you've done, you woke Shady up" 😂

I love this! Being Gen X 😂

Feckedupbundle · 03/06/2024 19:03

Great stuff. I've always liked Eminem.

iamreallyabee · 03/06/2024 19:12

Eminem's a mumsnetter

TheIceQween · 03/06/2024 19:36

@iamreallyabee we can only pray 🙏🏼

TempestTost · 03/06/2024 22:51

kelppoe · 02/06/2024 15:24

his lyrics highlight issues. It gets people talking about the issues and brings them into focus. Shady is violent against women, but all that does is highlight the horribleness of domestic violence. He never manages to glorify it, the subtext is always that it’s bad.* in mumsnet terms his characters are almost a reverse. Tells one side of a story in a way intended to get everyone thinking about and supporting the other side. Iyswim.*

Does this mean you can interpret that he's not GC though? If his misogynistic and homophobic comments are reverses, does that not mean his GC ones are too? Especially if he does have experience of it in his family?

I don't think it's the same as a reverse, it has some similarities.

We maybe aren't supposed to like Slim Shady or emulate him, he's rather unreformed, but it's also true that he makes some pretty astute observations about what is going on around him. And there is usually a logic to where he takes those observations.

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 20:02

Cause I have zero doubts
That this whole world's 'bout
To turn into some girl scouts

😂😂😅

anothernamitynamenamechange · 04/06/2024 21:36

His earlier songs had already made a comebace (or possibly never left). My 11 year old was eagerly telling me who Eminem was. Childsplaining if you will.

Eminem is fine. Pete Davidson on the other hand is a hypocritical little soandso.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfefsxSF0sw

duc748 · 04/06/2024 21:46

Fuckwit.

ChewtonRoad · 04/06/2024 21:54

I've always liked him.

Eminem and Slim Shady are characters he plays, and he does it well and makes me laugh. But then there are songs like Stan and Lose Yourself, which I suspect are all Marshall. Lose Yourself is quite poignant and I get a bit weepy when I hear it as the message is clear.

Am fairly sure he knows that a woman is an adult human female.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 04/06/2024 22:41

Maaate · 03/06/2024 18:38

There's been this whole meme going around on tiktok for the last few months where millennials warn Gen Z about not pissing off Gen X and now it's switched to "now look what you've done, you woke Shady up" 😂

😂

helovedbigbrother · 05/06/2024 09:57

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2024 22:00

What is it with the penis clutching, though? They always look like they've either wet themselves or have got some kind of groin itch.

My 5 yr old does that when he needs to pee. Maybe he hasn't grown out of it?

fromorbit · 23/07/2024 09:33

The new album dropped two weeks ago is absolutely full of misgendering and trans jokes. It is also no 1 in US managing to beat Taylor Swift's epic run [some might say this is the biggest issue with it]. Millions of online listens.
https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/controversial-lyrics-eminem-new-album-the-death-of-slim-shady-coup-de-grace-b1170372.html

Penis News provides full coverage of all the "thought crimes":
Eminem mentions Caitlyn Jenner or trans people on almost half the songs on his new album
https://archive.is/Pbsap

Notice no-one is even really trying to cancel him at all. No attempt to stop the album being sold. Of course it wouldn't work, but why is it he seems to be allowed to say anything and JKR makes a tweet and everyone goes crazy.

Must be something about Eminem which means he is allowed to speak.

The most controversial lyrics on Eminem's new album The Death of Slim Shady...

Today, Eminem has released his first album in four years, The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce). A concept album that takes in the influential rapper’s career – and various controversies along the way – the artist has framed it as a final outing from...

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/controversial-lyrics-eminem-new-album-the-death-of-slim-shady-coup-de-grace-b1170372.html

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JamSandle · 23/07/2024 09:47

Who would have thought Eminem would be the unsung hero.

ButtSurgery · 23/07/2024 10:00

Always loved Eminem. He's shone a light on so many things people tend not to sing about in the charts - domestic abuse, rape, child sexual abuse, drug use leading to appalling health and behavioural issues, stalking... Not many love songs, but the love for his first daughter has always been evident.

Now have The Eminem Show playing in the office, will try the new album next!

Maddy70 · 23/07/2024 10:01

How to say you dont understamd Eminem in one post ;)

Similarlyplaced · 23/07/2024 10:14

Maddy70 · 23/07/2024 10:01

How to say you dont understamd Eminem in one post ;)

I don't know about that. Do you mean you have to understand Eminem to know whether or not he means what he's saying? The way I see it is that he's taking the piss about people being cancelled for things they say.

ArabellaScott · 23/07/2024 11:21

fromorbit · 23/07/2024 09:33

The new album dropped two weeks ago is absolutely full of misgendering and trans jokes. It is also no 1 in US managing to beat Taylor Swift's epic run [some might say this is the biggest issue with it]. Millions of online listens.
https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/controversial-lyrics-eminem-new-album-the-death-of-slim-shady-coup-de-grace-b1170372.html

Penis News provides full coverage of all the "thought crimes":
Eminem mentions Caitlyn Jenner or trans people on almost half the songs on his new album
https://archive.is/Pbsap

Notice no-one is even really trying to cancel him at all. No attempt to stop the album being sold. Of course it wouldn't work, but why is it he seems to be allowed to say anything and JKR makes a tweet and everyone goes crazy.

Must be something about Eminem which means he is allowed to speak.

Gosh what could it be? What is the difference between Eminem and JKR?

ArabellaScott · 23/07/2024 11:24

'“So transgender rights, where do I stand? I’m all for ’em, I really am pro. But intercourse with you (what?), would I have? No (nope). I’m just bein’ honest (yeah), now I’m an ahole,”
“Call me a transphobe (really? Yeah) ’cause I just can’t go (what?) And try and pretend you was never a man though (sorry). I mean, damn, bro (yeah), it’s just the way I feel (uh). But if I say it will (mm), get me cancelled (yup, st).”'

LoobyDoop2 · 27/07/2024 10:37

Maaate · 03/06/2024 18:38

There's been this whole meme going around on tiktok for the last few months where millennials warn Gen Z about not pissing off Gen X and now it's switched to "now look what you've done, you woke Shady up" 😂

Why are they not supposed to piss us off? Just because about time we got a bit of respect? 😂

alittleprivacy · 27/07/2024 21:39

I was driving rurally recently and scanning through available radio station. I heard Houdini on some local station, so stayed on that station. It was the most unbelievably censored edit I've ever heard of anything.

The verse that goes;
My transgender cat's Siamese (why?)
Identifies as Black, but acts Chinese
Was literally;
cat

boatonapond · 27/07/2024 21:51

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