The Times Lead Story - Labour Set To Annihilate Women's Rights

Having looked it up I found that one caveat is that you only get to vote for the last two remaining candidates, or it might only be one vote for one of the two. Anyway it does not mean a free range of choices.

Labour are banking heavily on trust and belief. However as Blair found with 'weapons of mass destruction', you can only play that card of electorate trust once, and once they realise you conned them, you're in trouble. Five years of a very angry electorate - on a range of issues - is not going to be fun.

I feel like Labour have taken us for fools, not just on this issue but pretty much everything you might expect a left-wing party to stand for. Wolves in sheep's clothing, again.

I don't want to join the Conservatives, thank you. Absolutely no disrespect to anyone who does support them but they are not my party.
What I would like is a Labour party that I can trust and respect.

I think the 1922 Committee have first dibs @CaveMum so I wouldn't hold out too much hope of finding someone sensible.
Besides, I couldn't be responsible for all those PIP claimants getting sent to break rocks in a penal colony somewhere.

Now don’t shoot me down, but one suggestion I’ve seen is that people sign up as Conservative members (£40 per year) so that when Rishi inevitably goes and there’s a Leadership contest we can vote for the candidate speaking the most sense on this issue so we can keep up the pressure on Labour.

I know a lot of people will abhor the idea of signing up as a Tory but the idea has some merit. Have to be speedy though, you have to be a member for 3 months to be eligible to vote in Leadership contests.

I'm so worried.
This issue is finally blowing up but I think, too late.

Thank you, the book she is writing about
sounds excellent, and the review itself is brilliantly written.

Doc Stock in Unherd

unherd.com/2024/06/british-feminism-needs-a-history-lesson/

Ostensibly a review of Susanna Rustin's 'Sexed', but uses that to frame a bigger picture and see right through the Labour party.

Just brilliant

Love that it’s being picked up by the media

On the money again.

@Glinner in Spiked

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/06/27/starmers-slipperiness-on-trans-is-utterly-inexcusable/

'Wokey-cokey' 😃 😢

*And also John Swinney has said he wants to bring up the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill with Labour “if” it comes into power.

They’re hoping their mates in Labour will let them pass it with a smile and a wave.*

Well, Sarwar thinks Labour will work with the SNP on gender laws.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e7aa02ec-ed9a-4429-83bc-6b072d741c94?shareToken=a9f07407abed5a19b525c890f4a0104c

Starmer has doubled down this morning in his radio 5 interview. He has absolutely no problem with giving away women’s rights.

Thread here from Jane who put KS on the spot so effectively on Five Live earlier. And yes, he all but says he counts men with a GRC as women, and cites the existence of the GRA as reason to do so.

I'm asking Keir a question about women's rights on 5 live - how to phrase it? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminism/5107115-im-m-asking-kier-a-question-about-womens-rights-on-5-live-how-to-phrase-it

And also John Swinney has said he wants to bring up the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill with Labour “if” it comes into power.

They’re hoping their mates in Labour will let them pass it with a smile and a wave.

Starmer has doubled down this morning in his radio 5 interview. He has absolutely no problem with giving away women’s rights.

This is true if working in the NHS too 🤷

I think your Greeness is very public spirited indeed. you deserve an award for your great thinking.
I'm going to go with the local person for local people who actually has done a lot for around here, despite his Party. Dont tell anyone😉

My 'be kind' sprogs are both voting in their first elections. I'm trying to influence them to vote Green (heh, heh!). Then their votes will be safely wasted.
👌

I think we're in the same boat. My MP is (was?) Tory and she wrote me a letter confirming Tory support for single sex spaces, belt and braces constituency MP-type, will never be a high-flyer. Unless she does survive and she might be shadow everything from lack of options. That makes it slightly easier. My 'be kind' sprogs are both voting in their first elections. I'm trying to influence them to vote Green (heh, heh!). Then their votes will be safely wasted. I'm telling them they'll save the Green candidate's deposit, which they might. Feck knows with all these court cases the Greens might need every penny.

My Tory candidate is a really decent bloke tbh Icake thinking over what you have said. Looking at things from a local level I think he's the better candidate than the woo woman who won't write her woo on her local leaflet .
If I vote for him then she will still get in, but one vote less.
Dither dither dither.

I'm trying to resign myself to voting Tory, but, viscerally, I don't know if I've got it in me. 'It'll be a new experience' I tell myself. It's helpful that the Labour candidate hasn't replied to my email, although there's time yet. The LDs are lost to the woo regardless of their candidate's personal view, he's likely to win the seat though.

I really can't bring myself to vote for Ashley Dalton.
Looks like a spoiled vote for me. Lib Dem, Tory or Reform are the alternatives.
I find myself shaking my head while thinking it all over and over.

He was a writer and author back in Nero's time Icake.
I always think of it when people start on about reorganising.

I've seen that quote, it's supposed to date back to the Romans. I don't know if it does, but I bet they were saying something similar regardless.