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London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain

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fromorbit · 29/01/2024 10:10

There is a lot of concern on twitter over a set of flag illustrations on a pillar at London Bridge Station.

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/london-bridge-station-celebrates-lgbt-history-month/

Sex Matters have now issued a formal complaint to the authorities about it see letter below.

We have written to Andrew Haines @networkrail and @LordPeterHendy about the intimidating political display at London Bridge station

You can make a complaint here https://communications-crm.custhelp.com/app/ask?var=complaint

This has resulted in the discovery that Shane Andrews, Network rail’s LGBT+ lead, who is also a scout leader (and a trustee of the Scouts), an independent police custody inspector, a school governor - used abusive sexist/homophobe slang all over his social media. He went on a huge deleting spree, but copies of his tweets are being shared widely.
https://twitter.com/obsolete__units/status/1751554910577930591

https://twitter.com/Sptme1/status/1751606559434514831

London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
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EdithStourton · 29/01/2024 17:09

Good Lord, SA should not be left in charge of a whelk stall, never mind be asked to represent anything. Nauseating tweets.

I'd much rather Network Rail spent their time running a bloody railway (rather than rail replacement bus services, which are the norm here at the weekend), not trying 'educate' us all.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/01/2024 17:01

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:49

This (from TwiXter) posted on LinkedIn by an HR professional

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Well, THAT's telling them. What a fabulous post.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/01/2024 16:58

Are all these flags supposed to represent groups covered by TQ+?

So the polyamorous (people who have multiple sexual relationships simultaneously) and demisexuals (people who only feel sexual attraction to people they have an emotional bond with) are officially included as TQ+ now?

eurochick · 29/01/2024 16:58

I travel through London Bridge regularly and would be up for wrapping that pillar jn a giant suffragette flag.

Just not this week because the utter twatbadgers are on strike again this week so I can't get there. 🙄

CrossPurposes · 29/01/2024 16:57

kitsuneghost · 29/01/2024 16:51

Is that not a suffragette flag down the bottom of the second pillar poster

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No. It's a genderqueer flag.

PronounssheRa · 29/01/2024 16:57

SinnerBoy · 29/01/2024 16:37

RoyalCorgi and BoreofWhabylon

Thanks. How is the bloke in any sort of job anywhere? Especially, as everyone has pointed out, in the Scouts?

The scouts seem to attract men like this unfortunately.

For clarification and in case of screenshots, I mean unpleasant misogynists. Non binary gregor whatstheysface was in scouting and if I recall it was theys complaints which led to Maya F being investigated for 2 years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326933/Scout-leaders-apologise-woman-hounded-calling-bearded-man-social-media.html

Gregors twitter output was also a cesspit of misogynistic slurs.

PicklesAndTequila · 29/01/2024 16:57

SidewaysOtter · 29/01/2024 15:52

That pillar looks just ripe for a good stickering.

<packs bag for next London trip>

Tomorrow here, v excited 😊

RainWithSunnySpells · 29/01/2024 16:55

kitsuneghost · 29/01/2024 16:51

Is that not a suffragette flag down the bottom of the second pillar poster

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No, it's the genderqueer flag as per the post upthread.

ETA - too slow!

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:55

kitsuneghost · 29/01/2024 16:51

Is that not a suffragette flag down the bottom of the second pillar poster

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Tsk! It's the "Genderqueer" flag now!
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4655134-suffragette-flag-appropriation

kitsuneghost · 29/01/2024 16:51

literalviolence · 29/01/2024 11:10

Let's put up a suffragette flag and see whether that's 'just a flag' then.

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Is that not a suffragette flag down the bottom of the second pillar poster

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:49

This (from TwiXter) posted on LinkedIn by an HR professional

London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
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fromorbit · 29/01/2024 16:48

Useful facts for your complaint.

British Transport Police 2023
Over a third of women have been sexually harassed on their commute to work

https://www.btp.police.uk/news/btp/news/england/over-a-third-of-women-have-been-sexually-harassed-on-their-commute-to-work/

New data reveals over a third of women have been victims of sexual harassment or sexual offences while commuting by train or tube, a survey commissioned by British Transport Police (BTP) suggests.

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FrancescaContini · 29/01/2024 16:48

Excellent! That’ll give Shane the chance to use every derogatory word under the sun to describe his female colleagues. He has quite a few colourful terms in his repertoire…

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:42

He's also on the judging panel for the Women in Rail awards 2024.

Shane adds: "I’ve been a supporter of Women in Rail for many years, from mentoring members to speaking at the annual conference, it’s a fantastic organisation."
“I felt very fortunate to be invited to attend the Women in Rail Awards last year and was in absolute awe of the nominees and winners, so to have been asked to be a judge feels a real privilege and one I didn’t hesitate in saying yes to!”

https://news.railbusinessdaily.com/women-in-rail-awards-2024-nomination-deadline-extended/#:~:text=The%202024%20judging%20panel%20comprises,network%20Archway%20Shane%20Andrews%20MBE.

SinnerBoy · 29/01/2024 16:37

RoyalCorgi and BoreofWhabylon

Thanks. How is the bloke in any sort of job anywhere? Especially, as everyone has pointed out, in the Scouts?

Januarydontbecool · 29/01/2024 16:27

@OForGoodnessSake ‘This suggests that @Januarydontbecool is still expecting some kind of MAP flag to be displayed.’

No, I wanted to be reassured that it wasn’t.

“Shane Andrews (MBE), chair of Archway, said: “We hope that those who view the pillar will take away with them not only the history and knowledge of the flags and communities but whoever they are and identify, know they are not alone and will find courage to live their life in a more tolerant and informed society.”

How do passers by learn the history of the flags? Perhaps by scanning the QR code?

ExitRamp · 29/01/2024 16:22

OForGoodnessSake · 29/01/2024 15:42

"We can’t see all the way round the pillar to be reassured that it’s not there, but perhaps one of our readers will pass by and report back."

This suggests that @Januarydontbecool is still expecting some kind of MAP flag to be displayed. I am confused why it's assumed authorities would have a flag representing paedophiles alongside the rainbow flag? Why are the two linked?

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It's not the Rainbow Flag that's linked, it's the multitude of other unnecessary flags that imply that every sexual behavior (or none = i.e.asexual) should have a separate identity and a flag. That's how pedophiles are sneaking in and reframing their desire to abuse children; as a legitimate sexual identity among many.

ValerieDoonican · 29/01/2024 16:20

In.the light of the screenshots in that tweet just shared, I imagine if anyone is likely to be feeling unsafe on trains it could be young men who are being ogled/eavesdropped or PHOTOGRAPHED WITHOUT PERMISSION BY NETWORK RAIL STAFF! Not sure there's a flag to solve that problem.

Unless its a nice colouful rendering of someone's P45?

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:18

Quite.

ValerieDoonican · 29/01/2024 16:15

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 15:39

@SinnerBoy

Oh dear God.

BoreOfWhabylon · 29/01/2024 16:14

His TwiX account no longer exists.

LakeTiticaca · 29/01/2024 16:12

Have his comments about 15 year old boys on the bus been reported to the police?

ValerieDoonican · 29/01/2024 16:11

AyrshireTryer · 29/01/2024 15:28

The Pi symbol flag explained here,
https://www.colorado.edu/cisc/pride-flag-guide#:~:text=Polyamory%20Pride%20Flag&text=The%20colors%20symbolize%20openness%20and,decimal%20places%2C%20represents%20infinite%20love.

Still not quite sure how polyamourous people are (or even feel) more unsafe than anyone else using a train though?

AlphariusOmegron · 29/01/2024 15:56

ExitRamp · 29/01/2024 15:29

Arrogance? And never having to be accountable for their actions?

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Or maybe the undercurrent of misogyny in some male gay circles.