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Trans woman named as UK champion for Women's Rights by the UN....

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HootyMcBooby · 03/01/2024 10:55

Outrage as trans woman picked by UN to be 'UK champion' for women's rights (msn.com)

"I will use this role to further advocate for the progress, safety, inclusion and empowerment of all women and girls, of all communities and identities.
"I will continue to draw attention to the systemic and social impact of misogyny, transphobia and gender-based inequality within the UK — in order to help provide data and insight that contributes to forming tangible methods of tracking and countering it." (Munroe Bergdorf)

Really?
How's that going to work then, when you don't like women talking about their own fucking bodies and call it crap like "gatekeeping" and "biological essentialism" etc.

Also quoted as saying anyone can be a woman.

How are you going to fight for their rights if you can't IDENTIFY what they are and anyone can be one?

Actually, they should just identify their way out of oppression and inequality, shouldn't they?
After all, it's that easy apparently.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/outrage-as-trans-woman-picked-by-un-to-be-uk-champion-for-women-s-rights/ar-AA1moq0K?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=bef31ae70b8c40bab3e66876f7c3edd7&ei=12

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AngeloMysterioso · 03/01/2024 18:11

There are 34 million women in the UK.

34 MILLION.

Not one of us deemed worthy of the role. Not one of us good enough.

No, the best candidate for the job was a in my opinion homophobic, lesbophobic, misogynistic man.

buckeejit · 03/01/2024 18:07

Who the fuck is in charge of the UN lately? What a shit show. I can't see any way that he is going to benefit UK women. It definitely feels like a GC fuck you. Grrr

Yirk · 03/01/2024 17:56

This might be a thick question, but how come the UN get to chose who champions the UK women's rights... can we not pick our own ?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/01/2024 17:51

muddyford · 03/01/2024 17:44

The U.N. seems intent on self-destruction. I would vote for a party that would stop us paying in.

Well, I rather liked their Special Rapporteur on violence against women and girls Reem Al-Saleem. But the UN don't seem to be on top of this trans issue at all. Way behind the times.

EarthSight · 03/01/2024 17:49

inclusion and empowerment of all women and girls, of all communities and identities

Which basically means trans rights, doesn't it, at the expensive of women and girls. It's just a massive fuck-you from the U.N to women in the U.K.

Shame on them.

Shedmass8 · 03/01/2024 17:47

The UN is a joke.

EarthSight · 03/01/2024 17:46

Yep - there will be many older men in suits smiling smugly about this (serves us feminists right), and mature women in senior positions who want to virtue signal to their younger colleagues about how progressive they are.

It would be absolutely unbelievable if misogyny and total disregard for women were not so common in today's society.

JellySaurus · 03/01/2024 17:46

HelenFisksBrownSuit · 03/01/2024 16:51

Hi @HelenFisksBrownSuit that wasn't the reason your post was deleted. We'll drop you a line with more info.

My post was deleted because I have written other posts that refuse to talk 'civilly' about men role-playing women in abusive or predatory ways. In other words, don't hurt the menz lady-feelz.

I am happy to stand by my comments, and I deplore MN for supporting these abusive men.

I'm not even going to ask why mine was deleted. I expect it was because the play on words I used to express that TWANW was 'not in the spirit'. A lovely catch-all that covers a multitude of sins. 🤐

muddyford · 03/01/2024 17:44

The U.N. seems intent on self-destruction. I would vote for a party that would stop us paying in.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/01/2024 17:42

EasternStandard · 03/01/2024 17:31

I’m wondering why women need to be represented by a male who speaks with such hatred towards us he sounds close to the physical manifestation of that hatred

It's because... if coffee drinkers were mistrusted by committed tea drinkers then the obvious solution would be to find a coffee drinker who says that coffee is just tea and that anyone who disagrees is evil, and make them the champion for tea drinkers.

Then they'd do a really good job of promoting tea and that would calm everybody down nicely.

Of course it will.

The UN's peacekeeping skills haven't been all that effective recently, have they? Wonder why not.

Waitwhat23 · 03/01/2024 17:39

It's been mentioned a few times before but it is odd that the guidelines linked by MNHQ which are titled 'Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex' have the following link title -
https://www.mumsnet.com/i/trans-rights-moderation-policy

In addition, item 2. states -

• We don’t allow posts which are derogatory or aggressive towards trans people. We believe there are ways to express both opinion and facts without crossing this line.

Not allowing posts which are derogatory or aggressive towards those with GC views is not mentioned. A strange anomaly.

Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex | Mumsnet

Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex. Please familiarise yourself with this before posting on our forums.

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EasternStandard · 03/01/2024 17:31

TrainedByCats · 03/01/2024 16:50

Those quotes are all statements Bergdorf has made publicly

I’m wondering why women need to be represented by a male who speaks with such hatred towards us he sounds close to the physical manifestation of that hatred

viques · 03/01/2024 17:30

TrainedByCats · 03/01/2024 17:02

For anyone new here previous threads contain reasons for our concern at them being a spokesperson for women https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3698942-munroe-bergdorf-again

Thanks for this little trip down memory ( or should that be mammary) lane. I had forgotten the debacle when Bergdorf was given the heave ho from the NSPCC as an ambassador for blatantly ignoring safeguarding guidelines and telling anxious and confused kids to contact them directly to get the benefit of their personal advice. Bodes well for someone now charged with supporting vulnerable women . I wonder if anyone told the UN about this unfortunate incident or if it has been expunged from Bergdorf’s cv.

heathspeedwell · 03/01/2024 17:27

This male person was once a drag queen.

Putting on fishnet stockings and a thong to make fun of women seems to encourage some male people to think that they can actually be women.

I think this says more about men and their misogyny than it does about an existential womanly essence that certain special male people can possess.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/01/2024 17:17

I do wonder what the UN expect when they make these appointments. Quite apart from the sex/gender issue don't they first look at what a potenial "champion" has said and done in public to make sure they're not a foot-in-mouth kind of person?

Or do they just see their appointees through rose-tinted spectacles?

HelenFisksBrownSuit · 03/01/2024 16:51

Hi @HelenFisksBrownSuit that wasn't the reason your post was deleted. We'll drop you a line with more info.

My post was deleted because I have written other posts that refuse to talk 'civilly' about men role-playing women in abusive or predatory ways. In other words, don't hurt the menz lady-feelz.

I am happy to stand by my comments, and I deplore MN for supporting these abusive men.

TrainedByCats · 03/01/2024 16:50

InAPickle12345 · 03/01/2024 16:41

Where are these quotes from???

Those quotes are all statements Bergdorf has made publicly

InAPickle12345 · 03/01/2024 16:41

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Where are these quotes from???

BeckyAMumsnet · 03/01/2024 16:28

@tobee we understand why - though we rarely repeat deleted posts and usually deal with anything that breaks TGs on an individual basis. Otherwise, it could all get a bit chaotic. Our guidelines are pretty clear on what we're likely to delete but you can always mail us if you're unsure or believe we're mistaken.

Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex | Mumsnet

Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex. Please familiarise yourself with this before posting on our forums.

https://www.mumsnet.com/i/trans-rights-moderation-policy

StephanieSuperpowers · 03/01/2024 16:23

Had a look at the times article. Seemed an excessive number of photos of Bergdof to me - it was almost like a promotion.

tobee · 03/01/2024 16:23

Be good if the rest of us could know the intricacies @BeckyAMumsnet

BeckyAMumsnet · 03/01/2024 16:18

HelenFisksBrownSuit · 03/01/2024 14:24

I see my comment naming Bergdorf as male was deleted.

How many times can I do this before I am banned? And then is MN liable for curtailment of my rights in law?

Hi @HelenFisksBrownSuit that wasn't the reason your post was deleted. We'll drop you a line with more info.

MargotBamborough · 03/01/2024 16:15

tedgran · 03/01/2024 16:12

I commented in the Times asking when a transman was going to be appointed to represent men!

That is an excellent question.

tedgran · 03/01/2024 16:12

I commented in the Times asking when a transman was going to be appointed to represent men!

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