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Krampussy · 21/12/2023 21:11

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 14:06

‘Since the race results do not provide the sex of non-binary athletes, the sex of non-binary athletes was either derived from previous races they had run, or where this wasn’t available, the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names’
😂

Or just by looking at them.

MrGHardy · 21/12/2023 21:00

"Objectives To test the hypothesis that, controlling for age, natal-sex differences in running performance are lower among non-binary athletes than in the rest of the population. To test the hypothesis that natal-male non-binary athletes outperform natal-female non-binary athletes".

If ever, ever, there was more useless 'study'. As if 'identifying' as non-binary magically would erase all existing evidence that males are faster/stronger than females. As if.

Helleofabore · 21/12/2023 20:43

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 14:03

This is absolutely top class trolling. Well done those researchers. I hope they get thousands of citations.

It is really a top effort.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/12/2023 19:22

Yes, you are correct, apologies. I'm sure there was someone at KCL though.

RethinkingLife · 21/12/2023 18:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/12/2023 18:53

That's a good point but it's also Dr Alice Sullivan's home institution.

The paper lists AS' current affiliation as UCL (doesn't mean that she wasn't associated with KCL at another point).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/12/2023 18:53

That's a good point but it's also Dr Alice Sullivan's home institution.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 21/12/2023 16:40

probabilistically?

is that an actual word?

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 16:04

I’m not sure if Dr Rush has produced any peer reviewed papers on this topic - but he’s got a PhD and he’s a mathematician at a posh university so it must be true.

Sex matters when it comes to Non-Binary races
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 15:27

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 15:11

I’ve heard that water has a surprisingly high moisture content - maybe that’s it?

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Sorry but where’s your reference from a peer reviewed journal proving this assertion?

viques · 21/12/2023 15:13

DisappearingGirl · 21/12/2023 14:12

the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names

😂😂

Tsk tsk tsk, isn’t that what pronouns are for? I mean , what is the point of going to the trouble of selecting your favourite pronouns, insisting everyone respects you by using them all the time even when it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference because you aren’t within listening distance, banging on about them on X and your email accounts until the cows come home, confusing your granny , and then some tosser of a researcher completely ignores your genuine feelingz and uses your name?

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 15:11

DrivingonIce · 21/12/2023 14:58

Why isn't water wet? It wets (sticks to) other water, after all, thus, erm, self-wetting.

I’ve heard that water has a surprisingly high moisture content - maybe that’s it?

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 15:09

That Twitter / X thread from one the paper’s authors is classic. Screenshots attached for X non-users.

Sex matters when it comes to Non-Binary races
Sex matters when it comes to Non-Binary races
Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/12/2023 15:04

"the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names"

GrinGrin that's hilarious

DrivingonIce · 21/12/2023 14:58

Why isn't water wet? It wets (sticks to) other water, after all, thus, erm, self-wetting.

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 14:16

nordicspirit · 21/12/2023 14:06

Except it isn't, water can make things wet though.

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And the sky isn’t blue either.

HTH

FrancescaContini · 21/12/2023 14:13

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 14:06

‘Since the race results do not provide the sex of non-binary athletes, the sex of non-binary athletes was either derived from previous races they had run, or where this wasn’t available, the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names’
😂

😂 Surely this is actually from Private Eye?

DisappearingGirl · 21/12/2023 14:12

Next up, the defecation habits of bears in tree dominant eco systems, and, the religious preferences of popes

😂😂

DisappearingGirl · 21/12/2023 14:12

the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names

😂😂

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 14:06

‘Since the race results do not provide the sex of non-binary athletes, the sex of non-binary athletes was either derived from previous races they had run, or where this wasn’t available, the researchers used a novel technique to model the sex of athletes probabilistically based on their given names’
😂

nordicspirit · 21/12/2023 14:06

SabrinaThwaite · 21/12/2023 13:08

In other news, water is wet.

Except it isn't, water can make things wet though.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2023 14:03

This is absolutely top class trolling. Well done those researchers. I hope they get thousands of citations.

Helleofabore · 21/12/2023 13:50

I did find this interesting:

Our exploratory analysis indicates that non-binary athletes may have slower race times than other athletes once one controls for sex and age, but one would wish to confirm this with a larger data set as this is on the boundary of statistical significance. Data gathered on gender non-conforming college students by the American College Health Association suggest that gender non-conforming students are less likely to meet exercise recommendations, have increased rates of obesity and have higher rates of physical and mental health issues; these factors affect levels of fitness and training status. A complex range of factors associated with non-binary status could account for any association with slower race times. We do not wish to suggest causality in either direction.

How to say that some athletes do not train as hard as other athletes.

Not an issue really, EXCEPT that they demand their own prize money now. If there is a disability, those athletes would compete in events designed for those disabilities surely.

SidewaysOtter · 21/12/2023 13:46

Well, colour me fucking surprised Hmm

FlamingoFlamboyance · 21/12/2023 13:37

The fact that studies and papers like these are even getting the time of day just shows that we've become ridiculously backwards in our thinking as a race.

Of course men are always going to outperform women in physical activity.

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