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Woman jailed after posing as man and duping partner into sex

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TERFisTHEnewTREND · 21/12/2023 00:00

Guardian link: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/20/woman-jailed-posing-as-man-cambridge-crown-court

A woman has been sentenced to 10 and a half years in jail for sexual assault after pretending to be a man to dupe a woman into sex using a blindfold, a sex toy and a “wholly fake persona"

He [the judge] added: “To engage with others in those fantasy lives is also not inherently wrong, not criminal, unless or until you start to use that fantasy life to deceive another person in the real world. Your deception, skilfully carried out and maliciously maintained, was acted out in the real world with appalling consequences.”

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eurochick · 21/12/2023 06:27

The sentence seems completely disproportionate. (Male) rapists get less.

TaytoCheeseandOnion · 21/12/2023 06:09

Fuck me. Just read a bit of the Alex Sharp thread. It is too early to be this angry.

IwantToRetire · 21/12/2023 01:35

This sounds very similar to this case https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/gayle-newland-jailed-for-tricking-female-friend-into-sex - I am sure there was a thread on here about it.

Although Garle Newland wasn't as far as I know someone who had practiced this deception more than once. Also wasn't clear whether it was about some inability to think she was lesbian.

This current case seems to be a bit different.

But yes the parallel to tricking someone into engaging in your fantasy is why many in the trans community didn't want sex by deception to be a crime.

Woman who posed as man to dupe friend into sex is jailed after retrial

Gayle Newland, 27, who was jailed for three counts of sexual assault by penetration, also admitted defrauding her employer

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/gayle-newland-jailed-for-tricking-female-friend-into-sex

TERFisTHEnewTREND · 21/12/2023 00:02

Sorry, posted too soon! All the text in my post is direct from The Guardian.

Obviously, there's a lot to unpack with the this case. It's quite unbelievable really. However, the judge's remark about involving others in one's fantasy are interesting. I agree with the judge here; nobody should have to partake in someone else's fantasy.

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/12/2023 00:01

The double standard is alive and well and living in the legal system.