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Anyone else’s work celebrating trans week/day of remembrance?

67 replies

HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/11/2023 09:10

We are. I’m not exactly sure what it entails or what we are remembering, and haven’t dare ask.

It seems like blind faith drives these things. I’ll try not to disturb anyone with questions or facts.

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HoneyButterPopcorn · 16/11/2023 09:22

Social engineering. I refuse to play.

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SerafinasGoose · 16/11/2023 09:08

We've got belief week.

Begs the question why such a week is needed in the first place. 'You WILL believe! You will, you will, you will!'

Don't believe? You're a heretic.

I've never in my life seen a 'belief week' devoted to any other ideology, including the monotheistic religions. This is really desperate stuff.

SamW98 · 15/11/2023 17:47

No. It’s times like this I’m thankful I work in an industry where this sort of thing doesn’t even enter our radar.

We come in to our job barely interact with anyone outside our own team then go home.

NotTerfNorCis · 15/11/2023 17:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/11/2023 09:48

I think against the backdrop of what's going on in the Middle East, this is going to fall flat with most people. Look at Sadiq Khan and the ratio on this. 1300 people liked, 16 million views. Roughly 8 people in every 100k.

x.com/mayoroflondon/status/1724107499437994305?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Yes that was one of the biggest indicators that the mood has definitely changed.

This unwarranted victim-martyr complex looks even worse in the current context.

Isthisreasonable · 15/11/2023 17:36

I'd put a tag on the tree "Celebrating the trans community being the safest demographic in the UK"

HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/11/2023 16:44

Yes. Don’t forget all the women 🙄 wheeled out for these occasions.

In Canada they have a person who pops up at such days (including the memorial day of the shooting of only women at a university campus - where men were told to leave by the shooter).

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SerafinasGoose · 15/11/2023 16:35

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 15/11/2023 16:32

I hope your work celebrate other days too. Fml. For example, International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is coming up on 25 November. And don't forget international women's day.

They want those too.

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 15/11/2023 16:32

I hope your work celebrate other days too. Fml. For example, International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is coming up on 25 November. And don't forget international women's day.

Justcallmebebes · 15/11/2023 16:18

WickedSerious · 15/11/2023 14:08

You won't be laying a wreath at the coffee machine then?

Hah. May dig out my finest mourning black for the occasion Grin

Lottapianos · 15/11/2023 14:58

'Belief tree? What the hell - is this in nursery? Or are actual adults doing this?'

I KNOW!!! It's all so childish. I used to work in nurseries, with children who need a lot of help with navigating relationships and boundaries, because they're CHILDREN. So we used to use phrases like 'gentle hands Tommy' and 'we are KIND to our friends, Jaimie'. All perfectly fine when it's tiny children, but now I see the same crap being directed at adults, with #bekind, and trite nonsense like 'in a world where you can be anything, be kind' 🙄🤢

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:52

Beowulfa · 15/11/2023 14:42

At least you wouldn't be in danger of setting off the smoke alarm.

Ah, but then after your moving ceremony where precisely one candle was lit, you could then send an enthusiastic email to the head of DEI saying that since the candlelight vigil for trans murder victims was so successful, you'd like to hold one for women killed by male violence next month. Then wait for them to say you can't do it because lighting that many candles would be against the fire regs.

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:47

@MargotBamborough I'd love to be brave enough to post that, but I'm too young to retire, and too old to be fired.

I'm just so sad because this rubbish is being posted by people who have previously been quite senior in our women's group, I can't believe such seemingly intelligent people genuinely believe this.

Beowulfa · 15/11/2023 14:42

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:10

I'd be so tempted to suggest holding a remembrance ceremony where a candle is lit for every trans person who has been murdered in the UK this year.

At least you wouldn't be in danger of setting off the smoke alarm.

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:39

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:25

Oh gosh yes was almost tempted to start a thread about this myself.

There is a solemn post about it on our internal media page and it's taken every inch of my self control not to ask how many deaths we are talking about here. It's in horrendously poor taste considering what's actually going on in the world right now.

The heartening thing is that the post has had very few likes or comments about it, so I think most folk are just ignoring it.

This is actually a really good point.

I wonder what the response would be if you gave some feedback saying, "I think this is in poor taste given that the number of trans people murdered in the UK is less than one per year on average and the best data we have indicates that, Brazilian sex workers excluded, trans people actually appear to be less at risk of being murdered than any other demographic. By contrast, in the UK, two to three women are murdered every week by their male partner, around 250 people are stabbed to death every year (of which around 40% are teenagers or young adults, mostly from disadvantaged backgrounds), and further afield we are witnessing an actual genocide playing out in real time in the Middle East. Since we are not having remembrance events for any of these groups of people, I can't help but question why we are having one for a group of people who are not actually being killed in statistically significant numbers. We have members of staff who are Muslim and Jewish, and no doubt female members of staff who have been the victims of male violence. Perhaps the diversity, equality and inclusion team should think about including those people from time to time instead of just focusing on one group."

GardenCherisher · 15/11/2023 14:36

My old work were admirably devoted to THE ACTUAL BUSINESS and had vanishingly little of this type of thing. If you were civil, professional, and diligent that was all they cared about.

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:36

I am so tempted to respond "Thoughts and Prayers " but that might get me kicked out of my work women's group, which thankfully still remains woman focused.

Pan2 · 15/11/2023 14:28

The civil service often do a single candle burning sort of picture like the armistice. Lest we forget. As if any of us ever can.

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:25

Oh gosh yes was almost tempted to start a thread about this myself.

There is a solemn post about it on our internal media page and it's taken every inch of my self control not to ask how many deaths we are talking about here. It's in horrendously poor taste considering what's actually going on in the world right now.

The heartening thing is that the post has had very few likes or comments about it, so I think most folk are just ignoring it.

NitroNine · 15/11/2023 14:18

Apparently what people (not on here, obviously - the ones pushing this nonsense!!!) need to remember & be aware of - tragic as ANY death (outwith a comfortable death in old age; & that is still sad for family & friends, obviously) is - is that all the available statistics demonstrate trans people are safer than their peers. (As is being discussed in this thread about recently published statistics atm, in fact.)

It is, as a PP pointed out, in particularly poor taste this year: over 130 people in a single mass grave in a hospital in Gaza & we’ve eejits in the UK twitting on about how a case that’s sub judice & the deaths of prostitutes in the country with the world’s highest murder rate mean they’re being genocided. (For anyone unaware, the use of a mass grave creates an additional level of distress for [practising] Muslims - & the supermajority of Palestinians are Muslim; the tiny Christian population has reduced by about two-thirds since Hamas took over - as, even though it’s been ruled acceptable in circumstances like this, normally it would be considered Haram & it is hard to shake that.)

Peablockfeathers · 15/11/2023 14:18

I’ll try not to disturb anyone with questions or facts.

🤣

LetMeGoogleThat · 15/11/2023 14:17

No, but I did attend an EDI course last week, which refreshingly side stepped the issue and removed the T & Q 🙌

garlictwist · 15/11/2023 14:16

JaxiiTaxii · 15/11/2023 09:36

We've got belief week. I wonder if that's the 'lite' version? Unusual because my work is a hotbed of wokeness.

Theres a box of craft resources and we have been asked to make a decoration for the belief tree 🤓

I mean. Its oddly sweet in an organisation that takes itself extremely seriously.

But the temptation to cause a stink and make a point by doing a green & purple GC belief decoration is strong.

This reminds me of when I was at school in 1999. We had to write on a paper leaf what our hopes were for the new millennium. I was sixteen and wrote "I hope I never have to do any shit activities like this".

AgnesX · 15/11/2023 14:12

It's on the diversity page of the company intranet but as far I can tell noone's paying much attention.

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:10

I'd be so tempted to suggest holding a remembrance ceremony where a candle is lit for every trans person who has been murdered in the UK this year.

WickedSerious · 15/11/2023 14:08

Justcallmebebes · 15/11/2023 13:54

Yep we are too. Apparently, it's trans awareness week and there will be a remembrance day to remember all the fallen trans people.

It's mental. I just completely ignore

You won't be laying a wreath at the coffee machine then?