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Anyone else’s work celebrating trans week/day of remembrance?

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HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/11/2023 09:10

We are. I’m not exactly sure what it entails or what we are remembering, and haven’t dare ask.

It seems like blind faith drives these things. I’ll try not to disturb anyone with questions or facts.

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IcakethereforeIam · 17/11/2023 14:10

Yup, pronoun badges are totally going to help tw sucked into the Brazilian sex trade. They're like a shield of steel.

SerafinasGoose · 17/11/2023 14:02

Sex work is undoubtedly dangerous. That doesn't make it right for those sucked into that industry and exploited by it, but it's an acknowledged, statistical fact that this is something which happens in this specific context.

I'm wondering how this would make me feel if I had a trans child or younger sibling. Young trans people have a difficult enough time of it without being afraid to put their noses out of the door because this kind of fear has been disingenuously ramped up.

Women as a demographic are at far greater risk, and in the all-too frequent instances of one of us being murdered because we are women, there's little in the way of public outcry (and the woman behind #CountingDeadWomen is the increasing target of threats and harrassment).

Who, and for what reason, would convince a group of people that their demographic puts them at a particular risk of being murdered, when the statistical reality is that they're relatively safe? Certainly not a movement or ideology that has any concerns whatsoever about the interests of trans people.

And I wonder when, or if, this particular penny is going to drop.

LoobyDop · 17/11/2023 13:58

Well, I did think thank goodness someone thought to have a week about it, because otherwise we’d be at risk of forgetting all about the poor oppressed suffering in silence.

SamW98 · 17/11/2023 13:10

What a spot on article 👏👏

And totally the bandwagon jumping by the professional virtue signallers is beyond crass.

Hasn’t Khan got enough to worry about with crime in his own city?

This line stood out for me 👏👏

It is ridiculous to compare the killings of pIt is ridiculous to compare the killings of prostitutes in developing countries with the refusal to call a man a woman in the UK. There is no pipeline from misgendering to murder.

Brefugee · 16/11/2023 20:06

SoddingWeddings · 16/11/2023 10:24

Ooh, I've just checked our V Woke Govt Dept intranet and Teams pages and....... nada.

It is, however, Interfaith and Belief Week which apparently includes non-religious belief.

It is also International Fraud Awareness week which makes me laugh in this context.

Also reminders for International Men's Day on 23 Nov which is good.

19th Nov

SidewaysOtter · 16/11/2023 19:26

There will be an event, apparently. Speeches and all sorts. What a shame I’m not in the office that day.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/11/2023 19:09

Belief week?Confused

When is rationality and evidence-based thinking week, please?

Feckedupbundle · 16/11/2023 18:49

No,I'm self employed and the customers who have brought up the subject are generally aghast at the constant pushing of Trans at every opportunity.
The DDs work with horses. Everyone there knows that mammals can't change sex and there is none of this nonsense there.
DH manages a scientific educational charity and they have no truck with it either.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 16/11/2023 13:39

The people really pushing this here are mostly middle aged gay men and a couple of mousy older women.

I get the women - it’s shiny and new fangled and makes them feel important but the gay men? They do realise that if they were young men/kids now they’d be ripe for the picking (agencies/lobbyists seem to target kids with their cutesy names and carton visuals). They must be spending a packet on ‘training and collaboration’ with these people (the representatives of which all seem to be maleborns too).

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JaxiiTaxii · 16/11/2023 11:21

theproudgeek · 16/11/2023 10:37

Just wanted to point out that belief week is probably a weird renaming of Interfaith Week (which has been going sunce 2009) and is all about encouraging dialogue between faiths and nothing to do with Trans Awarenss Week which is also this week.

I think you're right geek, and that's why I haven't gone in all guns with my GC baubles. I don't want to pee in the BBQ when the spirit is positive & genuinely inclusive.

Mintesso · 16/11/2023 11:16

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NotTerfNorCis · 16/11/2023 11:04

Just checked our company pages. International Men's Day being flagged up; but nothing at all about trans. Two years ago, we were all being encouraged to enter our gender identity and pronouns into the HR system. It was 'optional' but they kept reminding us about the deadline. People thought it was ridiculous at the time. It seems they're quietly dropping all that nonsense.

I do think there is a general change in mood. This was a fad, a really powerful fad, that is slowly starting to dwindle away.

theproudgeek · 16/11/2023 10:37

Just wanted to point out that belief week is probably a weird renaming of Interfaith Week (which has been going sunce 2009) and is all about encouraging dialogue between faiths and nothing to do with Trans Awarenss Week which is also this week.

sourdoughismyreligion · 16/11/2023 10:26

No, organising stuff like that would be my responsibility, and I don't even mention it.

SoddingWeddings · 16/11/2023 10:24

Ooh, I've just checked our V Woke Govt Dept intranet and Teams pages and....... nada.

It is, however, Interfaith and Belief Week which apparently includes non-religious belief.

It is also International Fraud Awareness week which makes me laugh in this context.

Also reminders for International Men's Day on 23 Nov which is good.

takemehomecountryroads · 16/11/2023 10:22

I’ll take a moment to remember them all when we have a day to remember all of the women killed at the hands of men this year.

https://www.killedwomen.org/

Killed Women

A woman is killed by a man every 3 days in the UK. They were our daughters, sisters, mothers and loved ones. But we do not want sympathy. We want change.

https://www.killedwomen.org/

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 16/11/2023 10:20

JaxiiTaxii · 15/11/2023 09:36

We've got belief week. I wonder if that's the 'lite' version? Unusual because my work is a hotbed of wokeness.

Theres a box of craft resources and we have been asked to make a decoration for the belief tree 🤓

I mean. Its oddly sweet in an organisation that takes itself extremely seriously.

But the temptation to cause a stink and make a point by doing a green & purple GC belief decoration is strong.

It would be such a beautiful decoration too

Rollingdownland · 16/11/2023 10:18

We don't have this nonsense at my work thank God. Everyone in there is pretty sane of mind. Long may it last.

Farmageddon · 16/11/2023 10:16

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:47

@MargotBamborough I'd love to be brave enough to post that, but I'm too young to retire, and too old to be fired.

I'm just so sad because this rubbish is being posted by people who have previously been quite senior in our women's group, I can't believe such seemingly intelligent people genuinely believe this.

I'm not sure how much they actually believe, versus how much they think they are supposed to say and do all this shit to prove how nice they are. There seems to be a few bad actors, and a whole lots of neutrals going along with it or not challenging it for an easier life (I'm in this group).

I work in a small charity (the charity sector is rife with this crap), and it's mainly one women who is pushing this heavily - despite our charity being about a condition that is nothing to do with sex or gender. I just try and ignore but she seems to bring it up more and more, like she's on a mission.

I'm not sure how on board the CEO is really, however like you said if you question it you are immediately a bigot and horrible person.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/11/2023 09:54

Better still find a fairy for the tree that looks like Posie/Marilyn and give her a Standing for Women TShirt.

That's a great new product idea for KJK and SFW!

Needmoresleep · 16/11/2023 09:50

Slightly different but on the agenda for DH's work's big departmental meeting was an item called 'show and tell'. A point where each of them were supposed to say a bit about what they were doing. He has no idea why it was called that. Almost all his colleagues were educated overseas. He brought in his childhood Teddy bear. Got a special mention from the Director for 'his sense of humour'. (Subtext probably: the British have a sense of humour but nine of us understand it.)

Go for the green and purple decoration. Better still find a fairy for the tree that looks like Posie/Marilyn and give her a Standing for Women TShirt.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/11/2023 09:47

"Trans awareness week" neatly contains international men's day on 19th.

NitroNine · 16/11/2023 09:27

This thread keeps giving me an earworm of (I thought I’d left it behind at school, but apparently not 😬). I don’t think that even if they believe really hard & wish on ALL the stars TRAs are going to get the genital swapping surgeries they’re now being promised are just around the corner 🤦‍♀️

vernatheraven · 16/11/2023 09:24

@JaxiiTaxii you must post a pic if you wake the tree

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