MPs who believe ‘women have a penis’ will be named and shamed ahead of general election

Was just coming to post that.

I don't care which party an MP or MSP is from (apart from the Scottish Greens - there's no hope there at all) - if they say that a woman can have a penis, they are either credulous or cowardly. Not traits I particularly value in my elected officials.

Any politician who can lie and say that woman can have a penis don’t deserve a vote as they are just stupid liars

good to know who they are

If hardly anyone cares, then the people funding the website will waste their money.

Why would that make you unhappy?

I've never suggested you were any kind of 'shill'. I wondered what your issue is with this project, but you don't seem willing or able to say, that's fine.

Yep, and that will also be useful information.

Anything that forces a definitive answer from anyone seeking election (and which will be on the record for anyone to see now and in the future) can only be a good thing in my mind as they can't weasel their way out of it later with cries of 'people misunderstood what I meant' or 'I was taken out of context' if the tide of public opinion changes

If you truly believe it, stand behind it. If you worry it'll make you look like a deceitful twat later then perhaps you should reflect on why that is

Can’t wait for this! Well done to the organisers

I can't believe that we've posters so mimsy about asking politicians a direct question that goes to the heart of their truthfulness and integrity and whether they're believers in the biggest conspiracy theory going. 🙄

The closest I’ve seen on this is the WM debate

Loads of MPs spoke very well on biological sex

There was a clear split between Labour and Cons in terms of numbers. Most Labour were TRA / TWAW and Cons pro women and TWANW

It’ll be good to see more sunlight and the direct question

Do you think it shouldn't be asked, then? There's no point, so why bother?

Or is there a better question? Genuine question to Adam Ryan

Gah auto correct! That should be 'an' nit 'and' and 'believing' not 'belittle'

Expecting integrity from political candidates is not "a view", for crying out loud. It's a standard
I agree, it should be a standard. My point was that so many (not all) MPs are abysmal, lie, behave in disgusting ways, are on the take for thenselves, friends and family, don't care about their constituents and still get voted in. I could make a list of plenty from all parties. So even though it should be a standard, it isn't a standard.

You expect that. Most voters don't care. They vote for the party and the leader they want. Some vote for tribal reasons.

So the question is only going to appeal to a small subset of voters. For most it's going to make no difference.

It's about both. But frankly I wouldn't trust and individual MP or a party that denies basic biology and tries to gaslight the electorate into belittle same.

So it being their own view is bad, it being the view of the overall party is far far worse and I will vote accordingly

Same here

Now we've exchanged "who do you think you ares", I feel all warm an fuzzy.

OK, so it's not about individual MPs for you then.

No. I'm not. I see all of those people bemoaning "free speech", media conspiracies etc. Where generally they represent the most powerful group in society. But I'm meant to feel sorry for them, being attacked by "the establishment" for their free speech.
Fuck that. Thoroughly unpleasant bunch of men that entirely deserve what they get imo.

You are in a minority in voting directly for an MP closely aligned to your views

But that's not what I said. Go back and read my post again.

I have never, ever had the opportunity to vote for an MP- or even a candidate- closely aligned to my views, and I doubt I ever will. I never claimed I had.

My post was not about expecting MPs to share my views. My post was about expecting MPs to accurately represent their own views, no matter who is asking them, as a minimum standard for seeking election.

Expecting integrity from political candidates is not "a view", for crying out loud. It's a standard. My opinions on green field developments, school meals, blood sports and arts funding are "views".

Great, I'm much happier with a party line that says 'no, women can't have a penis' than one that says they can

Well let's see how many Conservatives say they think women have penises, given self ID was their position for much of their time in government and backed by Theresa May

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/gender-recognition-reform-bill-theresa-may-disappointed-scotland-changes-not-considered-for-england-3966348

If all Conservative MPs go with "of course women don't have penises" then it will be clear it's a party line.

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Is that what I said anywhere?
And did I say I wanted less free speech?
I don't think I did.

We've crossed paths before so I know you very much enjoy trying to make out I'm some kind of labour paid shill male, even though I'm a middle aged centre of the road voter. I can't even be bothered today so I'm not replying further.

No one needs to be ‘very careful’

If pp want to avoid it. Go for it

Those of us that don’t get freaked out by a direct question and answer, all good.

Great plan.

Also to have hustings in every constituency

I LOVE this!