"If you see a terf ... " Sarah Jane Baker thread 2

If you can lie about being a woman despite being born with cock and balls, you can lie about anything.

Perjury?

Yes. And no one's going to check on it, apparently. Did the prosecution not bother to challenge that?

Court adjourned. Supporters cheers. All rise. Judge leaves. SB presses head through the two glass fronts of holding box and shouts. 'I'm not really an idiot". Supporters all laugh. SB taken out

Triumphant. A torturer and attempted murderer is a hero because he's been transwashed.

The judge is a fucking disgrace

We saw young activists beaten up by Turning Point- one of our trans sisters got beaten up outside pub- 16 year old transwoman got beaten up by Posie Parker and her acolytes

Fucking hell. He lied in court under oath.

It's possible that the magistrates court made an error in law by allowing that kind of "I'm just stupid", "I didn't mean it", defence. Your intention does matter to whether you have committed a crime, sure, but it can be taken that far?

I appreciate what you're saying. At one level it's just another idiot magistrate who doesn't really understand the law - I haven't had much respect for magistrates since reading The Secret Barrister book - and as such it doesn't set any kind of earth-shattering precedent.

Still. It makes me feel extremely uneasy because it's a sign of how seriously these people take violence against women, ie not at all. Perhaps a jury in crown court would have found differently, perhaps a proper judge would have given a defence like that short shrift in summing up. I just feel the verdict tells us something about where we are as a society. If Baker had said "Punch fucking blacks/homos/Muslims", would he have been found not guilty? I doubt it. But women - well, no one cares about women, especially not the kind who have opinions about women's rights.

Tribunal Tweets have written up the trial. I'm still reading but it's infuriating. He says his memory is hazy because he hasn't had his hormones

https://x.com/tribunaltweets/status/1697362459990933933?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

KJK is FIRE on her youtube last night.

https://www.youtube.com/live/GIqp1pgXB6M

It's interesting that the lay person (magistrate) decided to find not guilty, while the people who understand the law and offenders, recalled this offender. Thank goodness "they" is now in prison

Screenshot of mail article

The cream always rises to the top.

Trans activist who served 30 years in jail recalled for licence breach mol.im/a/12468359

Not sure if this has been posted

Even taking the judge at their word, ie SJB rant was not a call to violence, but "publicity".

Publicity for what?

The Free SJB campaign? Maybe Nelson Mandela should have said punch a TERF in the fucking face.

For the trans cause? Maybe trans everywhere should adopt the same publicity approach, I beseech Owen Jones to fight for trans on his podcast using the selfsame words.

For a nifty range of SJB inspired clothing and apparel? Yep, the judge agrees it's fine to mouth such words to sell t-shirts, bandanas, handbags, and of course umbrellas (for those pesky LWS events).

Unless there is some other publicity reason to call open season and set the dogs on women everywhere.

Because I can't see it, "publicity" is the lamest excuse ever for this embarrassment of a legal mind to have used in letting this individual off.

Remember a week after Baker's speech and the call to violence was echoed across the UK this happened in Scotland. A woman was punched in the face.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/feminist-campaigner-left-black-eye-30540007

No charges were brought. Yet the middle aged woman who was attacked by a 20 year old man has not been silenced and has gone back out there.

I fear the TRA are going to see Baker's case as a licence to continue their violence.

Our response though has to be increasingly speaking out. There is no going back, we know that they will come for women whatever happens. The authorities are useless. However what threats and actions men use to silence women are going to fail. They failed in the 1910s, they failed in the 70s.

Where are the usual suspects who are normally all over misogyny and VAWG, who gave the Sarah Everard story and vigil Met Police debacle coverage their undivided attention, running the narrative for months of a cesspit of Andrew Tate style misogyny in British men and boys?

Where are they? Where the fuck are they?
Nowhere to be seen.
So while the rest of us decry institutional male attitudes incl everyday risk for women, Tate phenomena AND toxicity like SJB, and his calls for literal violence, the liberal hand wringing MSM are going "yes, but..."

This is swirling into something beyond the negativity we saw pre-Covid. Women like Roisin are not only being cancelled but are being ritually humiliated. Women generally are being told by the judiciary not only do they not have a sex class because the law has nothing to say about clear and present threats to it and it's members.

I was feeling positive about the Arrow Of History arcing towards common sense and light.

Roisin's very public lynching and the law protecting a lethal risk to women is again making the Arrow quiver off course.

It was a magistrates court decision on one particular day.

It's possible that the magistrates court made an error in law by allowing that kind of "I'm just stupid", "I didn't mean it", defence. Your intention does matter to whether you have committed a crime, sure, but it can be taken that far?

It's obviously not great in terms of "sending a message" that he was found innocent, but he was still prosecuted and is spending time in prison.

That one criminal gets away using a dodgy excuse... like even if that defence is genuinely allowed in law, it doesn't mean that the next person that tries it would be believed.

It is astonishing.

I can pretty sure if you put any other term in that sentence instead of TERF (anything ethnic, for example) you'd be prosecuted for hate speech and actually convicted and punished.

But sexism is fine, and threatening women is fine. I also think of TERF as a bit of a synonym for Karen these days - so it's fine to threaten a woman of a certain age.

And Saudi wants support in holding the football World Cup. It was bad enough that Qatar had it. There should be a straight-forward "f off until you treat women with respect".

Does anyone else feel terrified by this? The judge has effectively told men - including ones with a history of criminal assault - that they can threaten and incite violence against women and they won't be punished for it. If we can't rely on the judicial system to protect us, then we have nothing. We are at the mercy of violent men.

I don’t even think that’s comparable tbh- that would still be a woman attempting to incite violence towards a man.

This is a man telling other men they should hit a woman.

The comparison would be more accurate if a GC male was making physical threats towards one of the female TRAs/allies.

And he would rightly be condemned, which is the difference.

These are just men who wish to assault women (nothing unique about that, is there?) and being applauded for it.

Well we wouldn’t want to ruin his life over a silly mistake would we?

ruining women’s lives for things they’ve said on the internet is fine, obvs

Violence against women is not only decriminalised but state-sanctioned again.

In the second wave, we used to describe this state as male and as patriarchal.

Doesnt look like there is any way to complain about a magistrate's decisions except to write to the Ministry of Justice, whose head is Alex Chalke MP.. https://members.parliament.uk/member/4481/contact

Anyone know any other way to complain?

Anyone else looking at the recent pictures of sjb and wonder how come they haven't showered for two months but managed a shiny new hair dye job?

I hope he dies in prison. Sick fucker

Extensive interview with SJBs 'missus' here.

SJB described as a 'political prisoner'.