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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 25/10/2023 23:04

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 22:47

He raped his cellmate?

How on EARTH was this man turned into a figurehead?

Because if you are male and identify trans you automatically get treated as a harmless victim despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

His supporters are arguably insane.

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 22:47

He raped his cellmate?

How on EARTH was this man turned into a figurehead?

Boiledbeetle · 25/10/2023 22:39

I reckon Alan baker only got seven years for his original offence because of his age at the time of the first offence, (He was born 1970) as he was sent you a young offenders institute

in September 1989 Alan Baker was sentenced to seven years imprisonment for kidnap and torture. In December 1989 Baker tried to murder another prisoner at the young offenders institute he was at. For this crime his sentence was extended to a life sentence. He was then moved to His Majesties Prison (HMP) Birmingham, and just two weeks after he had arrived Baker raped his cellmate. He received a further sentence of six years, to run concurrently to the life sentence he was already serving.

He also escaped from an open prison at one point and managed to stay on the run for over three months and fathered a son. So whilst his crimes as Alan were against men, he obviously didn't have an issue with having sex with women, so Sarah Jane baker is every bit as dangerous as Alan was!

And this is the person they are touting as political prisoner!!

AlphaTransWoman · 25/10/2023 22:08

@ArabeIIaScott
I think some people are a bit confused. As I said upthread, in the UK a life sentence is a life sentence. If released they can be recalled at any time for any reason. I'm not sure many of SJB's supporters get this.

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 21:51

I had read the account but presumably had blocked some parts of it.

Highly upsetting to even read about, let alone experience. Traumatising for life, let alone physically scarring for life.

I do wonder whether the people parading around calling SJB a political prisoner have any idea about his history. Or the slightest sympathy for his victim.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 25/10/2023 21:26

Gang oral rape at knifepoint, according to Mr Sheridan’s recent account.

And he probably would never have encountered SJB at all if his sister hadn’t married SJB’s dad.

I can barely even imagine the psychological damage a crime like this would do to an entire family.

"If you see a terf ... " Sarah Jane Baker thread 2
"If you see a terf ... " Sarah Jane Baker thread 2
"If you see a terf ... " Sarah Jane Baker thread 2
ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 21:17

I didn't know about the rape.

Jesus christ.

SinnerBoy · 25/10/2023 21:08

Yes, I mentioned that somewhere else about Baker. He may be vulnerable, but he's an extremely dangerous and violent person, from whom the public deserve protection.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 21:04

Yes it was oral rape I think, which only became classed as rape in the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 25/10/2023 21:02

Just looked it up, this crime was committed in 1989 and the sexual violence inflicted on Mr Sheridan wasn’t classified as rape in UK law until 2003.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 25/10/2023 20:58

It’s a travesty that SJB & friends weren’t also charged with rape for that offence against Mr Sheridan, presume the law hadn’t quite figured out to do with men who force other men into sexual acts at the time of SJB’s arrest.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 20:50

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12299927/amp/Man-tortured-trans-activist-brands-dangerous-violent-individual.html

'"I think if people disagree with other people about issues it's much better to have a debate about it then threaten people. By telling the crowd to punch a TERF, she clearly still has anger issues and is a dangerous, violent person.'

Darren knows only too well the level of violence Baker is capable of.
After he was kidnapped Darren was subjected to appalling beatings and forced to carry out humiliating sex acts before being trussed up in a cupboard and left to die.

Recalling harrowing details for the first time he told MailOnline how Baker and her brother showed no remorse after admitting their appalling crimes.

He said: 'I thought I was going to die but in the court case they said that the only thing they regretted about it was that they couldn't break me.'

The brothers were jailed for seven years by a judge who described the ordeal as 'an exercise in sadism and cruelty which may well have led to his death'."

Yeah, you probably should have given him more than 7 years then.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 25/10/2023 20:38

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 17:53

SJB is a useful illustration of how someone can be both highly vulnerable and highly dangerous, concurrently.

Yep, SJB is fragile, like a bomb.

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 20:33

He's an attempted murderer, as well as a kidnapper/torturer.

JanesLittleGirl · 25/10/2023 19:31

BezMills · 25/10/2023 19:28

Vulnerable mainly to himself, to be fair.

Well, apart from his victims.

BezMills · 25/10/2023 19:28

Vulnerable mainly to himself, to be fair.

AlphaTransWoman · 25/10/2023 19:00

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 17:53

SJB is a useful illustration of how someone can be both highly vulnerable and highly dangerous, concurrently.

I think we can agree on that one.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 18:06

YY Arabella

ArabeIIaScott · 25/10/2023 17:53

SJB is a useful illustration of how someone can be both highly vulnerable and highly dangerous, concurrently.

Boiledbeetle · 25/10/2023 17:52

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 25/10/2023 11:53

No, this one had the balls. You've got your tense wrong.

But we only have sjbs word for the fact they were removed!

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 25/10/2023 11:53

Boiledbeetle · 24/10/2023 16:52

It's this new type of political women prisoners, they just have the balls to do things differently!

No, this one had the balls. You've got your tense wrong.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/10/2023 08:51

HMP Isle of Wight is a male prison at least. Good to have that confirmed, I think there were some rumours that he was in a female one.

Abhannmor · 25/10/2023 08:22

True , @SinnerBoy . 99% of my male friends would be terrified in close confinement with that psycho. He should be nowhere near women.

SinnerBoy · 25/10/2023 03:45

Jeez, safe from male violence? When Baker is the one who has committed the most male of violent crimes? Baker is an extremely dangerous person, the other prisoners are in danger from them, not the other way round.

JanesLittleGirl · 24/10/2023 16:58

Boiledbeetle · 24/10/2023 16:52

It's this new type of political women prisoners, they just have the balls to do things differently!

Not in this particular case though.

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