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RainyWeekend · 17/07/2023 07:52

IwantToRetire · 16/07/2023 20:24

No surprise to see Patsy Stevenson, self elected martyr of Sarah Everard event, when she and others from Sisters Uncut and Global Women's Strike gatecrashed a quiet, respectful apolitical vigil for Sarah (as requested by her family) with placards and loud hailers has tweeted in support of SJB https://twitter.com/PatsyeStevenson/status/1680623990023282688

What did the tweet say? Do you have a screenshot?

Backstreets · 17/07/2023 07:13

Read the article about his poor victim. So disturbing, didn’t know about the sexual assault stuff. What a piece of work this deranged bloke is.

Apricotton · 17/07/2023 06:59

Apologies if it’s already been mentioned, but I think Patsy Stevenson has deleted her tweet.

Waitwhat23 · 17/07/2023 06:51

And yet in Scotland, despite the impetus for change in E and W arising from the Isla Bryson case, SJB would undoubtedly be placed in the female prison estate.

Hoardasurass · 17/07/2023 01:46

It's highly unlikely that sjb will be in a female prison due to the new rules. There's a handy list of crimes in the article below which have caused the transwomen who committed them to be moved out of the female estate. Unless I am mistaken sjb has committed all of them
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/16/trans-prisoners-moved-out-womens-jails-isla-bryson-moj/

Trans prisoners moved out of women’s jails after Isla Bryson scandal

Ministry of Justice tightens rules to identify transgender prisoners as potential risks to protect women

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/16/trans-prisoners-moved-out-womens-jails-isla-bryson-moj

Boiledbeetle · 17/07/2023 00:40

Jo Phoenix on GB news taking about the SJ B stage moment and people cheering.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1680651616221818880?s=19

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1680651616221818880?s=19

Boiledbeetle · 16/07/2023 22:28

AccountCreateUsername · 16/07/2023 22:19

‘Non-trans women’ 🙄

Christ I missed that! First women got called non-men and now we are non-trans women!

frustrated fuck me GIF
AccountCreateUsername · 16/07/2023 22:19

‘Non-trans women’ 🙄

AccountCreateUsername · 16/07/2023 22:17

MerlinsLostMarbles · 16/07/2023 21:15

The victim was wrongly thought to be a transwoman, and it's believed transphobia was the motive.

The point being transphobia and the fear/hatred of transpeople can cause non-trans women to be harmed.

The man who murdered her was a white supremacist btw

ArcticSkewer · 16/07/2023 21:34

Your story sounds very unlikely and I doubt the motive as guessed at in the article is correct (based on all the other detail in the article) - but what is factual is that a woman was killed by a man.

Interestingly though, a lot of attacks on transwomen (by men, obvs) are often probably homophobic rather than anti-trans, with slurs based on homophobia used.

And back to the monster in this thread ... I hope they get a long recall back to jail (male).

Motorina · 16/07/2023 21:30

Entirely possible this is pink news displaying their usual journalistic integrity when it comes to facts. What limited coverage there is elsewhere makes it clear the victim was known to the attacker, which makes suggestions he mistook her for a trans woman unlikely. https://eu.pal-item.com/story/news/crime/2023/07/03/richmond-man-charged-with-murder-in-womans-stabbing/70379864007/

Richmond man charged with murder in woman's stabbing

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https://eu.pal-item.com/story/news/crime/2023/07/03/richmond-man-charged-with-murder-in-womans-stabbing/70379864007/

thirdfiddle · 16/07/2023 21:22

The cry wolf of transphobia really doesn't help anyone.

Killing someone because you think they are transsexual IS transphobia, and we'd all condemn it.

Recognising that a male person is male and saying they should not take part in women's sports is not transphobia. And the more people keep claiming it is, the less calls of transphobia are taken seriously.

ValancyRedfern · 16/07/2023 21:19

And feminists are responsible for this how? Was the murderer a big fan of Germaine Greer and Sheila Jeffreys?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 16/07/2023 21:15

ArcticSkewer · 16/07/2023 21:09

Woman killed by man.

There's a surprise

The victim was wrongly thought to be a transwoman, and it's believed transphobia was the motive.

The point being transphobia and the fear/hatred of transpeople can cause non-trans women to be harmed.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 16/07/2023 21:14

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And are all these people being killed by radical feminists?
This is even more proof that the TRAs need to drop their ridiculous hate figure of ‘the terf’ which is just a construction to allow them to punch down at women, and focus on the people who are actually doing harm to transwomen, homophobic men.

Boiledbeetle · 16/07/2023 21:13

Merlin your post has nothing to do with SJB and whether SJ B has been recalled to prison.

Why do you insist on doing this?

ArcticSkewer · 16/07/2023 21:09

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Woman killed by man.

There's a surprise

MerlinsLostMarbles · 16/07/2023 21:06

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IwantToRetire · 16/07/2023 20:46

Patsy is right there because it increases her profile.

Well she must hope that it does, but actually it make her look a bit out of touch. Tweeting support 48 hours late is a bit strange.

Unless of course it is done at the behest of her handlers who stood by and prompted her post Clapham Common gate crashing, during tv interviews to make sure she said the "right" things.

She is after all their highly photogenic media satisfying front.

(Women's Strike 8 March etc..)

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WarOnWoman · 16/07/2023 20:37

I can't understand why anyone would want to make SJB a martyr. Except for Patsy. Patsy is right there because it increases her profile.

RealityFan · 16/07/2023 20:26

IwantToRetire · 16/07/2023 20:24

No surprise to see Patsy Stevenson, self elected martyr of Sarah Everard event, when she and others from Sisters Uncut and Global Women's Strike gatecrashed a quiet, respectful apolitical vigil for Sarah (as requested by her family) with placards and loud hailers has tweeted in support of SJB https://twitter.com/PatsyeStevenson/status/1680623990023282688

The trans phenomenon is hitting the tarmac hard. The results aren't pretty.

IwantToRetire · 16/07/2023 20:24

No surprise to see Patsy Stevenson, self elected martyr of Sarah Everard event, when she and others from Sisters Uncut and Global Women's Strike gatecrashed a quiet, respectful apolitical vigil for Sarah (as requested by her family) with placards and loud hailers has tweeted in support of SJB https://twitter.com/PatsyeStevenson/status/1680623990023282688

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PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 16/07/2023 20:24

I understand SJBs original, horrific crime involved a sexual assault/oral rape of the victim. Would this not make him a sex offender for life? Certainly I'd hope this is factored into the risk assessment.

He may well rape in a male prison too, as his victim was male but quite frankly that's for the male prison service to deal with.

happydappy2 · 16/07/2023 20:12

I can't remember what current MOJ policy is on 'trans' prisoners, but SJB certainly highlights brilliantly the case of a male who is missing part of his anatomy but still is incredibly violent, dangerous & sadistic, so should never be anywhere near vulnerable women in prison. (Or the staff who have deliberately chosen to work in a female prison as the inmates are less violent.)

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