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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 19:19

Ignores poems. Ignores poems.

I'm on the TRA chapter and got the urge for the tea of a 5 year old for some reason.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Waitwhat23 · 05/10/2023 19:02

Boiled Beetle cried 'oh no'
No more poems, say it ain't so
Her brain was a-humming
As the poems still kept coming,
Volume three was a definite goal!

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 17:57

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ArcaneWireless · 05/10/2023 17:25

She said no more odes.
Yet plenty more kept coming.
Beetle just went pop.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 05/10/2023 17:13

Poor boiled beetle works so hard,
labouring like a modern bard.
Editing and collating rhymes,
which some will tell us may be crimes.

Why all the fuss, why do we chatter?
Why should we think that women matter?
Listen close now, prick up your ears,
some dogma is just bad ideas.

I know it feels like it is true,
that inside your head there's a you.
That isn't true that isn't real,
it's just a way that people feel.

And that is why it is not wise,
to spend your time demanding lies.
There will be things you can't pick.
Don't let the wanting make you sick.

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 17:11

😍

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CervixSampler · 05/10/2023 16:39

Boiled Beetle was her name
Tunnocks and poems were her game
In disguise she was famed
And her first edition it was framed.

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 16:06

IcakethereforeIam · 05/10/2023 15:58

You're doing brilliant @Boiledbeetle

I'm thinking it might wind up the book equivalent of the Forth Bridge trope. New poems get written as fast as the older ones are published.

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I'll think about it
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IcakethereforeIam · 05/10/2023 15:58

You're doing brilliant @Boiledbeetle

I'm thinking it might wind up the book equivalent of the Forth Bridge trope. New poems get written as fast as the older ones are published.

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 15:52

they can go in the silly poems that got written when the book was getting one star reviews off Lola and hitting 200 sales. section! which will now include the silly poems that got written whilst i tried to pull the second volume together

except mine obviously that is going in the current chapter i'm working on (god im still only at chapter 2)

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/10/2023 15:43

Perhaps another chapter called 'Terfery Rhymes'

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 15:41

if you can't beat them join them!

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Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 15:40

PARTY IN THE PARK

1PM 23RD JULY 2023

SEE BELOW FOR DETAILS

Duthie Park is where it’s at.
No need to bring your baseball bat.

There will be singing and dancing,
whilst on the women we’re advancing.

So mask up tight.
Be ready to fight.

The women will provide the props
you’ll use to assault the sops.

Your fist is good, but their banner is better.
You will get away with it, honest! I bet yer!

You’ll get a slap on the wrist!
God, those women will be pissed.

You see the Scottish Police are all MRAs
They’ll be doing the bidding of us TRAs.

So bring all your friends to the party in the park,
Because punching women is such a lark!

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Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 15:40

i hate the bloody lot of you.

with a passion!

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CervixSampler · 05/10/2023 15:12

Little Jack Horner
Sat in a corner
Adjusting his wig and frilly clothes
I may have a cock
but I rock this frock
And these pink panty hose

That's nice dear I said
But shiny new threads
Won't make you the woman
Who prances in your head
You'll always be a man you see
Your cock, balls and xy mean you'll never be me.

CervixSampler · 05/10/2023 15:02

Little Bo Peep
Has ovaries fast asleep
Now that their work is done
But she's still a real woman

CervixSampler · 05/10/2023 14:59

Hickory dickory dock
A man is a man
Not a woman with a cock.

ArcaneWireless · 05/10/2023 14:52

A man in a frock
Is just a man in a frock.
It ain’t no woman.

Something to go with your tea. 😊

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 14:17

it may have just slipped its way into a chapter when I went to make a cup of tea!

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howdoesatoastermaketoast · 05/10/2023 12:40

totally cool either way @Boiledbeetle I think you're doing an awesome job

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 12:15

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 05/10/2023 11:52

A woman is just
a little girl who grew up.
Growing up is hard.

If you have the space and inclination for a haiku @Boiledbeetle just for you

ooh, I shall stick it in my pocket for now, can't promise anything but I may find a little space for it somewhere.

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Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 12:14

@PurpleBugz i've sent you a PM

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howdoesatoastermaketoast · 05/10/2023 11:52

A woman is just
a little girl who grew up.
Growing up is hard.

If you have the space and inclination for a haiku @Boiledbeetle just for you

Boiledbeetle · 05/10/2023 07:54

@PurpleBugz Thank you! I'll swap it over when I turn the laptop on. I just need five more minutezzzzzzz

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PurpleBugz · 05/10/2023 07:18

@Boiledbeetle

I tried to DM but couldn't work out how to do it on my phone so just pasting my lasted version. Later than I planned having a bad week with one of my kids

Violation

When asked what is a woman
You force men into our word
When I call this a violation
I’m told don’t be absurd

I am a woman my sex bears the children
“But not all women can or want to do that”
Trans women are men so childbirth doesn’t include them
No surgery can give them a child making t**t

I am a women, sometimes I will bleed.
Not all of us no but when we don’t the emotions are strong
Trans women cant have periods because he’s a he.
Equating that to female amenoreah is so wrong

Men are not women. They can’t have our word
Woman is more than make up or clothes we wear
They take our words anyway we are unheard
if we protest we are harmed so we live in fear

I do not consent, I do not consent!
You are removing my female rights and freedoms
You say silly woman doesn’t know what she meant
Woman’s lack of acceptance is really the problem

Men are now women. They seek to erase us
Women constructed by male interpretation
The world let’s them do it as it is misogynus
Woman is just a hole to stick a d**k in

Things meant for women go to men now
Our statistics, our spaces, our funding our medals
Speak up you get slurs turf bigot dinosaur cow
Wanting fair treatment is transphobic twaddle

Men bring your power against us to subjugate
Police, umbrellas, legislation men wield them all
Real women are suffering male sexist hate
Men will do anything to just see us fall

Our children are brainwashed. transition they push it
Porn as sex Ed yet we can’t pull them out
Transing gay kids, trans the autistics
If a parent objects that’s transphobic you shout

Men are lesbians. We must accept it
Woman forbidden to reject natal men
They suffer for saying they just don’t want dick.
So straight they must be so ought to transition

We are told to deny them is to actually hate speech
I say trans ops on kids is abuse mutilation
I say we will speak other women we reach
And I say men=women is a utter violation

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