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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 17:07

Here ye go. I rubbed it shiny.

Like Lola maybe does…

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 17:06

@ArcaneWireless a triumph! Ahh an absolute triumph. Top of the podium for you.

glorious!

Ooh hang on a minute get down we've got a late entry from Lola:

I'm an not a man
A woman I am.

Ooh marvellous! Fantastic. Sorry Arcane second place for you.

Oi! Give me that medal back so I can give it to him!!!!

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ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 15:23

The cycle of life

When clubby books were all the rage
And you folded your frock’s page
I bet you thought that that was where it ends

But besides your brand new telly
Or a fancy patterned welly
There was a limit to your wanton spends.

Three decades on I think you’ll find
For those more broad of mind
A catalogue just won’t give you a shock

You can buy a brace of titty
And can purchase something slitty
To be fashioned from your inside outy cock.

Some things just do not change
All that’s grown is just the range
And if you’ve money you can have it all

You can take up female sport
And the sponsorship you’ll court
Will let you have the pro-ver-bi-al ball.

The shitey thing about this course
Is the lack of all remorse
From them that rob a woman of her medal

But sunshine is now shiny
And for them that are now whiny
We’re enjoying the most glorious back-pedal. 🚲

ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 14:49

You are too kind for I am shite. 😉

I’m working on a pocket poem for thread 2. I know what I want to say but I need flowing juices…

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 14:39

ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 14:11

Bazinga…. 🥳

There's two of yours in the bonus section, 83 and 89, as well as in the main book!😊

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Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 14:20

LumpfishNoodle · 05/06/2023 13:56

Well, it's arrived. I now have the Kindle version as well as the paper copy. Although it's impossible to leave the Kindle version pretentiously out on the coffee table for a number of reasons (the cats don't care, the Kindle turns the screen off on its own and I don't have a coffee table due to my propensity for shin bashing) it is great to be able to flick back and forth, search, zoom in (anyone else tried pinching two fingers together on an actual book lately? No? Just me, then) and whatnot. The addition of lovely bonus poems is a nice touch. So if you haven't bought it yet, trot on over to the Kindle section... and then think about getting a hard copy as well - it is for Charity, after all 😀

@FairyKindleMother did a really good job on it i I think! The file I gave her was not pretty!

Thank you for doubling up on your book purchase!

I too have been pinching to enlarge paperbacks recently!

Could you maybe print of a copy of the book cover, and doing your best blue peter presenter impersonation along with a cereal box and some double sided sticky tape make an UTDOD kindle cover????

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ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 14:11

Bazinga…. 🥳

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 14:10

Brokendaughter · 05/06/2023 13:30

I picked up the ebook this morning.

Seems strange to see something from this forum out in the wild like that.

Your poems are in there! 😘

Also

I've just discovered the scroll option on the kindle app!! I feel I have finally joined the 21st century! No page turning for me, just free scrolling from start to finish.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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LumpfishNoodle · 05/06/2023 13:56

Well, it's arrived. I now have the Kindle version as well as the paper copy. Although it's impossible to leave the Kindle version pretentiously out on the coffee table for a number of reasons (the cats don't care, the Kindle turns the screen off on its own and I don't have a coffee table due to my propensity for shin bashing) it is great to be able to flick back and forth, search, zoom in (anyone else tried pinching two fingers together on an actual book lately? No? Just me, then) and whatnot. The addition of lovely bonus poems is a nice touch. So if you haven't bought it yet, trot on over to the Kindle section... and then think about getting a hard copy as well - it is for Charity, after all 😀

Brokendaughter · 05/06/2023 13:30

I picked up the ebook this morning.

Seems strange to see something from this forum out in the wild like that.

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 10:11

@RealFeminist apologies..

Whispers "Pssst...the e-book is available"

@FuckMeSidewaysAndCallMeBarbara well of course you have to buy it again! There's extra stuff! And as for the name change 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍. Now you just have to write a poem under that name!

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FuckMeSidewaysAndCallMeBarbara · 05/06/2023 09:50

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 09:36

Roll up. Roll up THE E-BOOK IS IN THE KINDLE STORE it snuck in during the early hours of this morning!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C739HTDK

It's definitely a different experience reading it as an e-book!!

Brilliant! I've obviously had to buy this too!

Also temporarily changed my user name in your honour.

RealFeminist · 05/06/2023 09:48

OKAY NO NEED TAE SHOUT FFS

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 09:36

Roll up. Roll up THE E-BOOK IS IN THE KINDLE STORE it snuck in during the early hours of this morning!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C739HTDK

It's definitely a different experience reading it as an e-book!!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C739HTDK?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-womens-rights-4816472-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet-thread-2

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Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 09:33

@LilacpointMummy excellent! I Hope the experience reading it as an e-book was successful.

I will admit that I wasnt actually awake enough earlier to do any actual reading. I was so relieved about it being available that I went straight back to sleep!

I'm wondering who you are now!

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LilacpointMummy · 05/06/2023 05:54

Also my first time in print (or e-ink) under a different username

LilacpointMummy · 05/06/2023 05:53

Fantastic!! I've downloaded it and am re-reading and enjoying the new poems 😃

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 04:51

THE E-BOOK IS IN THE KINDLE STORE

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C739HTDK

I only got up for a pee, thought I'd have a quick check!!!! Woo hoo!

Now I must go back to sleep

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Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 21:40

This may be the closest our book gets to the Queen of Terfs herself (although I assume she's secretly bought a copy! And if she hasn't why not?!?)

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 21:29

@TheBiologyStupid niiice!! You rose to the challenge! (And as it's you I've taken a screenshot just in case!)

@Motorina always seeking poems 😻 and manages to be relevant to FWR! The orders are starting to add up! We've gone over 350 since we started. Who knew people would buy a book about a thread on Mumsnet!

@Brokendaughter the annoying thing was when I finally found the poem it was only because I remembered I had been wearing a different pair of pj bottoms when I wrote it. And there it was in the pocket!!!

I gave up buying women's pyjamas many years ago and buy men's with pockets. But every now and again Sainsbury's miss the pickets of the men's ones and it drives me bonkers!

@Ourladycheesusedatum 😉 Mens dressing gowns are far superior can't your current one have an unfortunate accident before you next go shopping!😉i daren't put a phone or tablet in my dressing gown pocket though as if I bend down to stroke a cat they tend to fall out of those massive man pockets in my dressing gown.

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Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/06/2023 21:06

Brokendaughter · 04/06/2023 20:44

I refuse to buy pyjama bottoms that don't have pockets.

It's amazing how hard they can be to find.

I had a dressing gown of doom, it was a mens, It had fantastic pockets, big enough for my tablet.

Sadly it had to go to wherever gowns of doom go and I replaced with a pretty ladies one. It too had pockets. And a hood, with ears. But sadly not as capacious.

First time I tried to get my tablet in the pocket, I almost cried with the frustration.
How can I be expected to carry, keys ( to let dogs out) phone, tablet and two large drinks without capacious pockets.

I'm trying really bloody hard to kill off my pretty gown so as I can buy another mans one.

So in conclusion it's not just pockets we need, its decent sized pockets.

Motorina · 04/06/2023 21:02

Fantastic figures, Boiled!

Are you still seeking cat poems? If so...

Cats (and not-cats)

My dog is not a cat.
She comes when called,
she knows her name -
Her instincts simply aren’t the same.
She likes to roll, she’s rarely clean,
She bounces into muddy streams.
My dog is not a cat.

My dog is not a cat.
She wants to claim
the litter tray.
Her hang-dog features seem to say,
“I have the right to sniff in there”
But I ignore her hopeful stare.
My dog is not a cat.

My dog is not a cat.
I sometimes think
She’d like to be.
The cats have better food, you see.
She’d eat their Dreamies if she could
But there is more to cats than food.
My dog it not a cat.

Brokendaughter · 04/06/2023 20:44

I refuse to buy pyjama bottoms that don't have pockets.

It's amazing how hard they can be to find.

TheBiologyStupid · 04/06/2023 20:17

(‘clothing designers’ and ‘vaginas’ rhymes but I couldn’t get it to sit right in mine.)

😂

Come on, please make an effort, pathetic clothing designers!
Women need pockets, however capacious their vaginas
Except for Dylan Mulvaney... oh hang on - no, ouch!
He's found there's a limit to his (yuck!) "Barbie pouch" ...

Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/06/2023 18:32

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 18:26

MANY MANY POCKETS

I want many many pockets in my clothes.
Think of men’s cargo pants… Yes! Just like those.

I want small ones and big ones and ones with a zip.
I want buttons and Velcro and ones that don’t rip.

I want soft ones and thin ones. I want all this and more.
But I have still yet to find what I want in a store.

I want them in sweatpants, and leggings, and in my kecks.
I want them in gloves, and in coats and ooh… turtle-necks.

I want lots in my dresses, and deep ones in skirts.
I want them in sweaters and hoodies, and even T-shirts.

I want them hidden in socks and side ones in blouses.
Hell, even my shoes, and many more in my trousers.

I want my phone in my pocket, and not in my cleavage.
(I’m scared I might lose it, through annoyed bosom heavage).

I want things in my pockets, and not in my hand.
I want both my hands free. This is my demand.

To those working in fashion please hear my plea,
I want many more pockets; I want to be free.

(‘clothing designers’ and ‘vaginas’ rhymes but I couldn’t get it to sit right in mine.)

Awww I love this.