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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 07/06/2023 08:32

SinnerBoy · 07/06/2023 07:58

Nope. It's in stubborn refusal mode. I get a price changed message, press "Buy" and it tells me there's a connectivity problem. There isn't!

Have you tried switching it off and back on? 😁

Are you on a kindle kindle, ie the only does book one and not a tablet one,? Any chance you are trying to buy the paperback on a kindle is what I'm asking?

Or, are you in the same country as the site you're on? As I have links to other places.

It's this the first and only book you've got! Wondering if it will let you download any books or it just refuses on this one.

Erm......that's all I've got until I've had more tea.

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SinnerBoy · 07/06/2023 07:58

Nope. It's in stubborn refusal mode. I get a price changed message, press "Buy" and it tells me there's a connectivity problem. There isn't!

SinnerBoy · 07/06/2023 07:54

Boiledbeetle

Do you need a woman to do it for you?

It's a distinct possibility!

Brokendaughter · 07/06/2023 07:53

I don't want to wear a bum bag
Brace for a back pack
Shoulder a shopper.

I want hands clutch free.
No elbow crooking walk
With purse suits me

And I'm not a walking billboard
Take your logos back from me.

You can keep your quilted, buckled, studded, zippered, poppered bags.

Give me oh so many pockets,
Sized for phones or cards or keys.
Maybe one to pop a lip balm in
(Plus an insulated chocolate pocket
For emergencies.)

Pockets I can put my hand in
All the way up to my wrist,
Pockets deep enough to curl my fingers up
Into an actual fist.

Don't give me shallow, tiny pockets
Sized just right for nothing much.
I want to root round in my pockets,
Full of pencils or some such.

I want to load my pockets up & go
Out for the day bag free

Because my stuff fits in my pockets
No substitutes for me.

All the boy clothes have big pockets
That the girl clothes seem to lack
So if you'd like to get my money
Put the girl clothes pockets back.

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 23:23

I don't know! People ask for an e-book then when there is an e-book they buy more of the paperback than the e-book!

I mean I don't mind either way a book sale is a book sale! But... Come on!😉

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Larpingasapoet · 06/06/2023 19:49

I've just been reading the newest WI thread : Petra Wenham has been appointed to the National Federation of Women's Institutes membership committee. (The poem below is not connected in any way with this announcement of the last thread I read. oh no! No connection there whatsoever.)

FOR PETE’S SAKE

I will join your WI,
Your rowing club too.

I’ll wear the same clothes,
And use the same loo.

I may look like a man to you,
But relax, I am just a lady.

So, you’d better affirm my identity,
Else I’ll tell everyone you're shady.

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 18:36

WinnieFosterFights · 06/06/2023 17:10

Found you all. Thanks for the new thread and congrats on the ebook! I forgot to post a photo of my copy of book one. I'll take it out somewhere scenic and then post it here.

What kept you? Tardy! 😉

I like that you are treating it like a lady!. Are you treating it to a picnic as well.

Sorry I've got visions of you and the book. An early summer afternoon picnic by the river. Ducks floating by.....

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WinnieFosterFights · 06/06/2023 17:10

Found you all. Thanks for the new thread and congrats on the ebook! I forgot to post a photo of my copy of book one. I'll take it out somewhere scenic and then post it here.

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 13:27

SinnerBoy · 06/06/2023 12:53

Well, it's better than I could manage. FAIL again, just now...

Sigh.

shakes head.

Do you need a woman to do it for you?

Here. Give it here. I'll do it!

😉

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Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 13:26

And having just browsed Amazon we are at No 10 in Feminist Criticism Hot New Releases

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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SinnerBoy · 06/06/2023 12:53

Well, it's better than I could manage. FAIL again, just now...

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 12:49

FairyKIndleMother caught this screenshot earlier today!

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Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 12:44

Not my finest work I will admit...

FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED

Poor SinnerBoy got broken
doing a good deed
so hes having a lie down
with plans for a good read.

But even Kindle is against him
and won't let him read a book
It's cos he's a him and not a wim
so his Kindle said "Oi! Get to fuck"

I feel the last bit needs work!

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SinnerBoy · 06/06/2023 12:25

Bah! The Kindle is registered and I've found the book, but despite repeated attempts, it's telling me there's connectivity problem. The phone works OK on wifi and I can navigate through the website.

It's a bloody conspiracy, I tells you!

SinnerBoy · 06/06/2023 11:38

Boiledbeetle · Today 09:43

after your very long wait for an e-book is actually a thing!

Thank you, so I see. I will get onto it later... Been busy dismantling my daughter's camp bed, for a courier, who is now 1 hour 37 minutes late. I've pulled a pectoral muscle and am not feeling very impressed.

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2023 09:43

@SinnerBoy after your very long wait for an e-book is actually a thing!! 😁😁😁

I have spent way too much time getting my tablet to read out the sweary ones. And it sounds so weird having someone speak everyone's usernames! You suddenly realise how nuts they must sound to someone not on mumsnet!but

I'm tempted to write An Oxfam poem today, after their appalling price month video but I fear it may just be the line Fuck off on repeat! Maybe I could translate each fuck off into a different language from around the world!

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SinnerBoy · 06/06/2023 09:33

ArcaneWireless · Yesterday 15:23

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Larpingasapoet · Yesterday 22:54

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Larpingasapoet · 05/06/2023 22:54

???

When will the madness end,
will it ever end at all.
Will things always be this broken,
or will sanity once more prevail.

Will us women always be lesser,
stomped on by wants of man.
Will our lives forever be holden
to the oppressed and vulnerable men.

Will women get their words back,
how about our spaces too.
Will we ever see the sunlight,
or are we forever doomed to clouds.

Will laws continue to shrink our world,
back to a darker age,
when women were but nothing,
a mere footnote on a page.

When will the world once more
see the damage that they’ve done
to entire generations of
girls and future women.

FuckMeSidewaysAndCallMeBarbara · 05/06/2023 22:27

It's between us (and everyone who read the thread with the toilet quotes), Boiled!

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 21:48

I've been having a mess around in the setting on the kindle app for the e-book and discovered the text to talk option. I was on a be polite poem...hearing the robotic voice go NO FUCK OFF was fun!

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Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 21:32

TheBiologyStupid · 05/06/2023 20:59

Much worse - not even a dead name ;o)

Oh I do wish I could keep better track of who is which new user name I could deadname all over the place. Take @FuckMeSidewaysAndCallMeBarbara she's...... Nah! I'm not outing her!

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TheBiologyStupid · 05/06/2023 20:59

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 20:40

Oops I K'd instead of C'd. Apologies for misspelling you. Is that as bad or worse than misgendering?

Much worse - not even a dead name ;o)

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 20:40

Oops I K'd instead of C'd. Apologies for misspelling you. Is that as bad or worse than misgendering?

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Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2023 20:38

Arkane, I'll post you you're second place medal, maybe, probably not!

For the first time The royalty source has more than one colour!

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ArcaneWireless · 05/06/2023 17:08

Oopsy 🏅