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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 30/06/2023 22:09

June totals.....
81 books of which:
21 e-books
60 paperbacks
Royalties £237.20

(although the cost of printing has now changed since 20th June and as I don't want to increase the price of the book I'll pay the difference which is 15p out of my pocket this month!)

Actual payment will be £237.35
Made up of:
Ebooks £87.36
Paperbacks £149.84

I shall make the payment in the morning (just in case we have a last minute sale tonight!)

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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SinnerBoy · 30/06/2023 17:19

It is against the law to discriminate against someone because of their gender identity.

They may wish to re-word that.

Intersex – An umbrella term describing people born with reproductive or sexual anatomy and/or a chromosome pattern that can't be classified as typically male or female.

Rubbish. And the non-offensive term is DSD, as they should know.

Sex – A label assigned at birth...

For goodness sake!

They're not doing very well on the factual side of things, are they?

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Boiledbeetle · 30/06/2023 16:58

And another poem sneaks in whilst I was trying to bold PRIDE!

Thank you@Bowednotbroken

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Boiledbeetle · 30/06/2023 16:56

@ArcaneWireless oh thank God i was hoping someone would come up with a bonus hole poem! Just Wonderful!

And aren't there a lot of words for a woman's womanly bonus hole!

Last day of PRIDE month! Last day we have to see photos of naked men with erect penises as little girls walk by or men in y fronts twerking In front of little kids In the name of inclusion

Publicly
Rejoicing
In
Deviant
Exhibitionism

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Bowednotbroken · 30/06/2023 16:53

The fear

The fear:
That the man in the dress
Turns up here
To wash my privates
And ignore my wishes
And my stated preferences
Because his feelings are more important
Than my fear.

ArcaneWireless · 30/06/2023 16:15

A fadge, a fanny, a minnie, a foof
A clunge, a slit, a muff or a moof
A lulu, a minge, a vag or a nuun
A growler, a fairy, a Mary, poon-poon

A front bum, a cunt, a flower, vagina
A flutey, a chutey, or just plain auld Gynah
There are plenty of words, you know it is true
For your pipe or your hole, your fluff or your flue.

Be inclusive, be kind, you’ve heard that is best
I agree to a point then am put to the test
For today I have heard of a new little name
It conquered, it saw, it came- what a shame.

A bonus hole of all things, we thought it meant arse
But it doesn’t and you know it is part of that farce.

I suppose it was coined by a prince amongst men
For the women that I know don’t have one of them.

Boiledbeetle · 30/06/2023 15:56

Just adding Maya's 100K tweet for posterity!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 28/06/2023 22:40

@TheBiologyStupid I know can you imagine the confusion if they don't read the introduction!

The merkins chapter will confuse the hell out of them!

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TheBiologyStupid · 28/06/2023 22:16

Wow - the reaction of unsuspecting Floridians could be interesting...!

Boiledbeetle · 28/06/2023 22:05

The women of Florida are about to discover poetry about Scottish Politics... God knows what they are going to make of it mind!

A lovely woman bought four copies and is putting three in the lil libraries for people to take!

Such fun!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 27/06/2023 21:16

September 2023. Just sticking this here so I'm not trying to find it at the point when i have to turn all this into something

Should be interesting.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/judge-said-men-could-become-163019750.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXVtc25ldC5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIt01O6TcLmUSJ3AuhzB_hTKvKYjDld13Rri3xwTrP_1DPCeoiXP3FySaZ9cwq3exWPnR9YzVQb0zLQqQIsSbadNe0w0pPOC4lKFWoMtg72mITN2rKfh3B72Cz12yyfc1xCarPd9wzDQ7-7EJmIkqjmoHg5dWP7jJ3UPP_alY43z

Judge who said men could become fully legal women will rule on Scotland gender self-ID law

A judge who ruled that biological men can legally become women is to preside over a court showdown between the UK and Scottish governments over Nicola Sturgeon’s self-ID gender laws.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/judge-said-men-could-become-163019750.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXVtc25ldC5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIt01O6TcLmUSJ3AuhzB_hTKvKYjDld13Rri3xwTrP_1DPCeoiXP3FySaZ9cwq3exWPnR9YzVQb0zLQqQIsSbadNe0w0pPOC4lKFWoMtg72mITN2rKfh3B72Cz12yyfc1xCarPd9wzDQ7-7EJmIkqjmoHg5dWP7jJ3UPP_alY43z

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UrinaryLeash · 26/06/2023 13:12

Middle of the night

I awoke last night from a nightmare,
in something of a tizz.
I’d wanted to use the loo,
just with the hers and not the his.
I was relieved to find when I awoke
that I was home alone.
There was no one to genuflect to,
or make sure I atone
for the crime of wrongthink
when it comes to toilet choice.
Because in public, as with many things,
us women have no voice.

Boiledbeetle · 25/06/2023 00:21

@Piccalillipromises 😁 it was a bonus finding it, I was sorting out some scraps of paper that were from when I was writing stuff on the original December 22 thread and the end rhymes were all on a piece of paper. Don't know if what i ended up with was what I had originally had in mind but glad it gave you a chuckle!

And those lurking surely you must have written a poem by now! We've still need a lot more before a book can be made from them!

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Piccalillipromises · 24/06/2023 21:36

Boiledbeetle · 23/06/2023 19:02

FLY BIRDIE FLY

I raised an eyebrow when I heard
A man can turn into a bird.

I wonder what it’s like to fly
And soar the skies up there way high.

Does it live up to all the hype?
Oh! Never mind! He meant the cunty type.

This one made me laugh! Partly because it took me a second to get it (not very awake) so I was laughing at myself as much as at the poem! Love it!

TheBiologyStupid · 23/06/2023 22:06

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/06/2023 22:45

Cool as Cats:

The trannies send signals from the rocks above the pass
The women take position in the bushes and the grass
The squaw is in the prison, she is tied up in the cell, having a wee,
She doesn't mind the language, it's the beating she don't need
He lets loose all the horses when his cell mate is asleep
he wakes to find the his cell mate is dead with arrows in her heart,
And Davy Crockett rides around and says it's cool for cats
It's cool for cats (cool for cats)

The Sweeney's doing ninety 'cause they've got the word to go
They get a gang of women, with stickers up at Heathrow
They're counting out the stats when the handcuffs lock again
In and out of Wandsworth with the numbers on their names
It's funny how this business always look so bleeding same
And meanwhile at the station there's a couple of likely cads
Who swear like, “ Your father’s your mother”and they're very cool for cats
They're cool for cats (cool for cats)

To change the mood a little he has been posing down the pub
On seeing his reflection, he’s looking slightly rough,
“I fancy this, I fancy that, I wanna be so flash
I give a little muscle and I spend a little cash
and I win the race and I know I’m mighty brash
but i don’t give a shit because I get what I want
And everybody tells me that it's cool to be a cat”
Cool for cats (cool for cats)

Shape up at the disco and I think I've got a pull
I ask her lots of questions and she hangs on to the wall
I kiss her for the first time and then I take her home
I'm invited in for coffee and I give the dog a bone
She likes women but but i don’t give a shit,
I said you are a lesbian and give her some old chat
But it's not like that on the TV when it's cool for cats
It's cool for cats (cool for cats)

Excellent!

Boiledbeetle · 23/06/2023 19:02

FLY BIRDIE FLY

I raised an eyebrow when I heard
A man can turn into a bird.

I wonder what it’s like to fly
And soar the skies up there way high.

Does it live up to all the hype?
Oh! Never mind! He meant the cunty type.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/06/2023 22:58

@Ritasueandbobtoo9 As a massive Squeeze fan, (seen them in concert many times). I approve this reworking!

I've just played the track and sang along using the new words!

Love 💘💘💘 it!

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/06/2023 22:45

Cool as Cats:

The trannies send signals from the rocks above the pass
The women take position in the bushes and the grass
The squaw is in the prison, she is tied up in the cell, having a wee,
She doesn't mind the language, it's the beating she don't need
He lets loose all the horses when his cell mate is asleep
he wakes to find the his cell mate is dead with arrows in her heart,
And Davy Crockett rides around and says it's cool for cats
It's cool for cats (cool for cats)

The Sweeney's doing ninety 'cause they've got the word to go
They get a gang of women, with stickers up at Heathrow
They're counting out the stats when the handcuffs lock again
In and out of Wandsworth with the numbers on their names
It's funny how this business always look so bleeding same
And meanwhile at the station there's a couple of likely cads
Who swear like, “ Your father’s your mother”and they're very cool for cats
They're cool for cats (cool for cats)

To change the mood a little he has been posing down the pub
On seeing his reflection, he’s looking slightly rough,
“I fancy this, I fancy that, I wanna be so flash
I give a little muscle and I spend a little cash
and I win the race and I know I’m mighty brash
but i don’t give a shit because I get what I want
And everybody tells me that it's cool to be a cat”
Cool for cats (cool for cats)

Shape up at the disco and I think I've got a pull
I ask her lots of questions and she hangs on to the wall
I kiss her for the first time and then I take her home
I'm invited in for coffee and I give the dog a bone
She likes women but but i don’t give a shit,
I said you are a lesbian and give her some old chat
But it's not like that on the TV when it's cool for cats
It's cool for cats (cool for cats)

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2023 14:11

For Women Scotland turn 5 today

WHAT WOULD MAGDALEN SAY?

As the amazing For Women Scotland turn five years old today
I imagine what the equally amazing Magdalen would say.
She’d say that she was proud of what you have achieved,
that you have stood steadfast in what you do believe.
She’d probably be tweeting and pissing people off,
she’d be setting out the facts to those who mock and scoff.

But though she’s no longer with us I don’t need to try and guess
what words she’d say to those men who attempt to transgress
the boundaries set by women, those of the actual female sex,
when they say they are attracted to only those who are born XX.
So, I’ll leave the final line to her as testament to her genius:
“THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LESBIAN WITH A PENIS”

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Boiledbeetle · 19/06/2023 23:27

^t.co/VJgCOfwSYd^

The Telegraph 19 June 2023 • 8:32pm
‘They meow rather than answer a question’: The school children now identifying as animals

An extraordinary report from a Sussex school has shed light on the growing trend of pupils insisting on being addressed as animals

HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY

Kids at schools these days
No longer do as teacher says
One girl claims to be a cat
Meows her answers, how mad is that?
Another child identifies as a dinosaur.
Probably answers with a mighty roar!
Another one thinks he is a horse.
I'm sure he probably neighs of course.
Finally, there is one kid who thinks he is the moon!!!!!
The end of all this madness surely must come soon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/19/school-children-identifying-as-animals-furries/

https://t.co/VJgCOfwSYd

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Boiledbeetle · 19/06/2023 22:36

@Waitwhat23 😁and thank you for the peak inspiration!

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Waitwhat23 · 19/06/2023 22:27

'For the lurkers'
A phrase given so much meaning
Due to the evidenced adept reasoning,
Of the posters of FWR.

Boiledbeetle · 19/06/2023 22:17

from a different thread:

Waitwhat23

I want to put forward a thanks to all our frequent flyers .... for their ongoing work towards peaking women. You are being told that you are directly peaking women and still you continue. I'm wondering whether we should start referring to you as peakers, in a similar way that people refer to allies etc.

Thank you, peakers! Carry on with the good work

@Waitwhat23

there's no way i'm posting this on the original thread it will get zapped.

PEAKERS

They peak them here, they peak them there
Those TRA’s peak them everywhere
Are they from heaven, or are they from hell
Those damned persistent infidels

based on Baroness Emmuska Orczy, The Scarlet Pimpernel

“They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Frenchies seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell?
That damned elusive Pimpernel”

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