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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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SpottyBumPony · 13/08/2023 21:02

@Boiledbeetle oops

I felt it slide from the front to the back

Boiledbeetle · 13/08/2023 20:38

@SpottyBumPony

There's seems to be seen extra to in this line below. is it extra and needs deleting or was it supposed to be something else?

'I felt it slide to from the front to the back'

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Boiledbeetle · 13/08/2023 19:52

SpottyBumPony · 13/08/2023 18:01

On being female:

I once felt a great big bubble
Had a feeling it was gonna be trouble
I felt it slide to from the front to the back
Attempting to leave at the top of the crack
In the end it popped out of my own channel tunnel.

OK you win on the name front!

I'm going to have to teach my new laptop that SpottyBumPony is actually a word!

And there's going to be a book out there at some point that has SpottyBumPony as one of the writers!

Love it 😂

Thank you for poem Spotty 😘

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SpottyBumPony · 13/08/2023 18:01

On being female:

I once felt a great big bubble
Had a feeling it was gonna be trouble
I felt it slide to from the front to the back
Attempting to leave at the top of the crack
In the end it popped out of my own channel tunnel.

SinnerBoy · 13/08/2023 15:10

That's an excellent limerick.

Boiledbeetle · 13/08/2023 00:44

Some poems from the Tunnocks thread. I'm fairly sure there will be a Tunnocks chapter at this rate!

Boiledbeetle · 08/08/2023 22:14
dear Chat gpt,

Write me a poem about being in love with Tunnocks products

In wrappers of gold, delights abound,
Tunnock's treats, my heart has found.
Caramel wafers, tempting and sweet,
Love's embrace in every bite we meet.
Teacakes, fluffy clouds, atop a biscuit base,
A symphony of flavors, a tender embrace.
Coated in chocolate, a love so true,
With Tunnock's, my heart finds its cue.
In caramel rivers and chocolate streams,
I'm lost in love, within my dreams.
Oh, Tunnock's treasures, you hold the key,
To a love that's boundless, wild, and free.

AppleTreeOwner · 12/08/2023 12:56

A previous post suggested a poem describing the addiction.

Risen to the challenge…

There once were some Tea Cakes from Tunnocks
Who had lots of ladies quite flummoxed
They tasted Devine
With shivers up the spine
But ended expanding their stomachs

(AppleTreeOwner · Yesterday 13:38
Happy for any tea cake limerick to go in said book under user name. Got to spread the gospel of Tunnocks love.)

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Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2023 19:53

Bugger January to march was three months but that included a LOT of time having to work out details with mnhq and chasing down all the poem writers.

At least this time I have all the copy writers permission to begin with!

Plus its not the middle of winter when I just want to hibernate!

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Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2023 19:49

Ourladycheesusedatum · 11/08/2023 19:28

How long are you waiting for vol2?

Asking for a friend.

Clears throat (commitment coming up)...

Touch wood that nothing else comes along to scupper my plans...

I am about (It would have been today but I slept through most of it) pull everything poem related off ALL the various threads (god I'm going to have to do an advanced search on my own comments to find some of them!) so that I can see what we've got.

It's going to take a while to sort and faff so it's going to take a good number of weeks to get it anywhere near ready.

Which means that anything that comes along in the next say month will all have chance to go in as once I've got it in some sort of order anything new that comes in can just be slotted into place. (And yes if something comes along after that as long as I'm still at the faffing stage and haven't done my contents and copy writers pages it will still be able to go In)

In my head I want to get it done so that it's ready to publish by the latest at the end of October / start of November (think of all the people who could receive a copy as a Christmas present!).

The first one I started working on at the start of January and published it at the very end of March so two months. So if I can do it once in 2 months I can do it again in 2 months.I

Obviously if by some miracle I find the energy to do more than about a couple of hours a day I'll keep you updated!

Oh god! I've got to actually do it now! Last time was easy as very few people knew what I was up to!

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Ourladycheesusedatum · 11/08/2023 19:28

How long are you waiting for vol2?

Asking for a friend.

Boiledbeetle · 09/08/2023 21:40

I do like it when I happen to idly check the dashboard and discover someone has bought a copy...

But there was 2 sold today. So BONUS!

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Boiledbeetle · 08/08/2023 16:42

LarkLane · 08/08/2023 13:00

Hello you wonderful women. I've bought a copy. It's on it's way whoop whoop!
My first copy was a present, so I'm buying for another friend who's in her eighties and retired from being an activist, but not from life.
She will love to read your words.

😍

Well that explains the sale that's just registered on the sales dashboard

I'm rather relieved! It has been a slow month. 🐌🐌

But finally WE HAVE A SALE!!

Thank you so much. I hope she enjoys it! 😁🤗

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LarkLane · 08/08/2023 13:00

Hello you wonderful women. I've bought a copy. It's on it's way whoop whoop!
My first copy was a present, so I'm buying for another friend who's in her eighties and retired from being an activist, but not from life.
She will love to read your words.

Boiledbeetle · 07/08/2023 23:50

Well I never knew that about the seatbelts. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks!

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SinnerBoy · 07/08/2023 22:54

Oh, the salami was fine, I'm on a keto diet - it's just that I would have chosen something with a bit of variety and preferably some shrubbery.

I have to ask, how do you manage to put a seatbelt on a 4 and a half month old? Wouldn't they just wriggle out of it?

It's a loop, which fits into the mother's (or perhaps father's) seatbelt and loops round the baby's waist. She could sit up and Mutti helped her sort of toddle about a bit, to chew the magazines etc.

Boiledbeetle · 07/08/2023 22:45

You can console yourself that it wasnt your fault, you were FORCED into eating salami. I mean if I'd have been there I'd have ensured you didn't eat the salami. Mainly because it would be down my gullet so bloody fast!

I'm not a fast food person (not through choice, there's just really little choice by me) But since last week I've eaten a mcds sausage and egg muffin with hash brown, a KFC zinger burger with hash brown, fries and gravy. A big Mac meal with fries and ketchup and an Indian takeaway consisting of lamb Rogan josh, keema rice, lamb samosas, onion bhajis, 2 types of nan bread and poppadoms.

Obviously i hated every gorgeous mouthful of all of it.

It's probably a good thing I only do this twice a year!

I have to ask, how do you manage to put a seatbelt on a 4 and a half month old? Wouldn't they just wriggle out of it? I don't have kids i have no idea how mobile they are at that age. I mean I know they can walk at nine months, but at half that aren't they at the squirmy, blink and they've rolled off the bed stage?

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SinnerBoy · 07/08/2023 21:26

Boiledbeetle · Today 18:38

After a week of celebrations and to much sugar at the back end of it...

Well, I've been forced to break my diet, as I'm travelling. I got a packet of German salami (in a German airport) and expected to be able to eat no carbs in the motel, but the kitchen closes at 7 and I had to go to Burger Thing. No chips, but a nasty white bun and despite "No sauce, please!" it was smothered in ketchup, which I tried to wipe off with paper napkins.

Anyway, the on the flight to Copenhagen, I'm delighted to report that I was able to help to entertain a delightful 4 & 1/2 month old German, call Rosalie. Her mother kept apologising, I kept saying, don't apologise. She only cried a little bit, on the descent, when she had to have a seat belt and stop exploring. I showed Mutti a photo of my girl, on cliffs above the River Elbe and she recognised the location, though neither of us could remember the name of it.

Boiledbeetle · 07/08/2023 18:38

After a week of celebrations and to much sugar at the back end of it I'm in a lull.

As are the book sales It's not got out of the starting blocks this month!

I had intended to start looking at the threads this week but I'm currently tied up, not literally thank God, with something else that is very time sensitive.

The poems are next on my to do list assuming nothing else surprises me!

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Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 22:35

I've just noticed there is an additional book on the frequently bought together bit!

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ArcaneWireless · 02/08/2023 22:09

Happy birthday cherub 😘 🎉 🎂
xxxxxxx

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 22:04

@Ourladycheesusedatum v gussie grips... FIGHT! there is currently only 2 signed copies of it! I'm tempted to contact the seller of the used copy on Amazon to find out why it's £20 when you can buy it new for £7.50, purely to see if they say it's signed. Because if they do its forged.

@ArcaneWireless I'm happy to admit that I may be a heterosexual woman but I love Elaine! She's soooooooo cool! I feel like a school girl with a crush!

I've updated my own Twitter banner thingy. If other people are going to use it I might as well myself.

Also discovered where Fred had seen it

Also also it's my birthday! It's my birthday! Well it may or may not be today I started celebrating it on Saturday last weekend when I had visitors and I have more visitors, well just the one sister dearest who has threatened to bring lemon cheesecake and lemon drizzle cake (bitch), this weekend and somewhere within that timeframe I have turned or will turn 51! So I set a random date around my birthday whenever I asked for a dob on internet things so I was surprised when suddenly balloons appeared on my Twitter profile yesterday!

I'm definitely, probably, maybe going to sit down and look at what poems we've got, how many, what the hell I can do with them this time for volume 2 after the birthday celebrations are over!

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ArcaneWireless · 02/08/2023 21:43

Gussie is a proper legend.

Well jel. 😍

Ourladycheesusedatum · 02/08/2023 18:07

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 16:34

So I love the photos I've seen of the book out in the wild but I've just received the photo to beat all photos

https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1686756194923208704?s=19

And in what is turning out to be wonderful day after an incredibly shitty (in more ways than one) day

This also happened

I get first dibs, if we ever are at the same meet up, I want my copies signed.

Ta much.

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 16:34

So I love the photos I've seen of the book out in the wild but I've just received the photo to beat all photos

https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1686756194923208704?s=19

And in what is turning out to be wonderful day after an incredibly shitty (in more ways than one) day

This also happened

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 01/08/2023 10:00

July payment made.

Current totals

446 books sold
£1,170 ish raised. (the £ one below doesn't include the extra 15ps)

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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 22:55

July totals (I'm assuming no one is going to buy a copy in the next hour, and I'm on my way to being horizontal)

25 total, 14 paperbacks and 11 e-books.

So 14*0.15 = £2.10 from me and £78.67 complete total = £80.77. I'll send it through tomorrow but probably won't be until the afternoon as I'm busy in the morning.

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