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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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CervixSampler · 20/09/2023 13:35

A tale as old as time:

It’s been more than a two decades now
Since he started his toxic torture.
Slowly at first, almost imperceptible to the unsuspecting or inexperienced eye.

She started thinking she was imagining things, that it was her that was the problem. After all he was such a good guy and she was, well, difficult.

She tried to be a good wife and worked hard to make it work. But after the marriage failed things ramped up to unprecedented levels.

The never ending threats of court
The mental poisoning of their daughters
He succeeded with one and alienated her from her maternal family
And then he set his sights on her sister
With his blistering hatred of who brought her into this world

She gave up her career to be there for you all,
She worked, she studied, she got her degrees, her post-grad diplomas and set up her own business, but it was never enough.

He says she’s lazy and sits on her fat arse all day.
And because of that he won’t pay a penny for their daughters.
He calls her psycho and schizo, claims she’s mentally ill and abnormal and tells their daughters this in the relentless drip of poison. It’s not even subtle.

His never-ending stream of lackeys and handmaidens ensure his narcissistic supply is secure as he passes his parenting duties onto the next in line who is blinded by his dubious charm.

Why does he hate her so? The woman who gave her all for him. The woman who was abused and gaslit who he tried to make feel small.

She took out a restraining order and he painted her as crazy. Said it was she who abused him.

He never took no for an answer. Pushing ahead regardless whilst guilting her into bending to his will. He had needs and she wasn’t meeting them he’d tell anyone who would listen.

He turned her family against her and ridiculed her in front of friends.

He called her a whore, called her a malingerer with munchausens to boot.

When he left, claiming she’d given him no choice he threatened to kill himself, or move to the other side of the world. Simultaneously threatening to take the children because she was psychotic remember.

Then came the interference with her work. Refusing to have contact with the children so she had to stay home. To ramp it up there were court applications. She’s been to court 25 times now and each time he’s painted her as crazy and an abusive mother. He accused her of having munchausens by proxy. The outdated term didn’t matter because it was just another way to hurt. He had her investigated, cross-examined, her soul laid bare. It still wasn’t enough.

Now he exists in his boiling vat of toxic lies, like the devil on his throne, precariously sat, fearing anything that could topple him from the god-like picture he’s painted of himself. He is drowning in his own hatred. His misery is palpable. The ugly void where a heart should be is reflected in his demeanour, his actions and his view of women.

But his most putrid bile is reserved for the woman who once loved him who committed no crime except to be a woman who dared to say no.

I've got a covid vaccine induced headache and not feeling my best today so that might need a good checking over for typos and grammatical errors.

CervixSampler · 19/09/2023 20:31

I've been distracted from Alice by some personal drama that I could write a book on never mind a poem.

Platform 13 is chilling. Brilliant. But chilling.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 20:08

IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 18:44

Or a lesbian.

😂😂

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IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 18:44

Or a lesbian.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 18:40

So this must be a cock then as it's wearing dungarees!

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IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 18:38

It must be a hen, it's wearing a dress. That's how you can tell.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 18:33

And I'm going to be honest i have no idea whether the above is a cock or a hen! I just know it's a chicken!

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Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 18:32

I don't know every time we try to discuss dressing livestock it gets deleted.

Anyway I've seen lots of dresses with cocks on, but alas only cocks wearing tutus! Although there are some great photos of them wearing dungarees.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 18:16

I thought I was being over cautious 😁

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 18:12

😁

Every time!

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Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 13:15

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I like this one. I've screen shot it just in case!

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IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 13:12

Boiledbeetle · 12/09/2023 18:50

Poem transfer from Tunnock's thread

IcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 08:25

Okay, 3rd draft

Daisy, Daisy give me your reality
I'm half crazy all for the love of me
It's going to be a shock
You'll lose to a bloke in a frock
I'll win the race, I'll take first place
Due to male puberty

Sorry 😞
4th draft?

I think 'bloke' should be changed to 'cock'. I like the internal rhyme. And it bites better.

I'll redo the whole poem in the next post, but I'm worried MN might delete it, so this is a backup.

If you prefer the mk.3 version though, go with that.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 11:35

And the Yorkshire Twat big 🫂 🤗

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Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 11:34

SinnerBoy · 19/09/2023 10:41

Thank you, Beetle, I am now following E. Hilton; and Dawkins and a few others. Still don't seem to see any replies I make...

Your replies will come up as soon as you post them if your on either the for you or the following tab. I'm not sure which. Or if you click on your profile and look under the replies tab they should show there

and replies to you etc See the little bell at the bottom with a 1 on it. Look for that somewhere on your screen that is your notifications of whether you've had replies or been liked or followed etc.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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TheYorkshireTwat · 19/09/2023 11:26

THE DATING GAME

There was a lady from Yorkshire,
whose love life was rather dire.
From man-child to cheats,
and those whose fists beat.

Arseholes, fuckwits, dickheads galore,
and probably many more.
I've dated them all.
Oh, how easy some of them made me fall.

Years of allowing such shitty behaviour,
I am now my only saviour.

Fighting hard for my own clarity.
It's time to stop giving mental charity,
to those that are really not worth it,
and never actually gave a shit.

I live my own life now, without the drama,
and I sit back, and enjoy the karma.
A big fat fuck you to those that hurt me,
for now I am finally free.

SinnerBoy · 19/09/2023 10:42

Swashbuckling

Your poem sent a shiver up my spine; and not in a good way.

SinnerBoy · 19/09/2023 10:41

Thank you, Beetle, I am now following E. Hilton; and Dawkins and a few others. Still don't seem to see any replies I make...

IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 09:56

Grin oh, and have a thanks too.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 09:51

IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 09:34

I think she got to no.2. The no.1 place was taken by another woman whose name escapes me. I believe she released her album in multiple editions with a different bonus track on each edition. So, if I'm right, her fans might have bought several copies each and boosted her numbers. Roisin didn't do that. That faintly terrifying picture on the front might have deterred a few potential purchasers too.

so.
P141 HIT PARADE

Roisin Murphy
Judged, found terfy.

Yet nearly topped the chart.
A literal stab to a TRA heart.

IcakethereforeIam 18th September 2023
Boiledbeetle 19th September 2023

WAFFLE:
A collaborative piece.

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IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 09:34

I think she got to no.2. The no.1 place was taken by another woman whose name escapes me. I believe she released her album in multiple editions with a different bonus track on each edition. So, if I'm right, her fans might have bought several copies each and boosted her numbers. Roisin didn't do that. That faintly terrifying picture on the front might have deterred a few potential purchasers too.

Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 09:01

Ramblingnamechanger · 18/09/2023 15:47

Please feel free to add to this…I realise it is more rant than poem but…
Joining the dots
What do the following have in common , let me see…?
The man telling me I should be speaking about something else.
The man standing in front of me, defying me to tell him he is male.
The man who says it’s just a joke when talking about the appalling things he has done to women.
The man claiming special status because he wears a bit of lipstick.
The politicians who deny that women’s concerns are an issue
And who never reply to womens’ letters.
The policemen who fail to take action when women are raped or killed,
And the ones who do the same
The ones who tape our mouths
The ones who shoot us if we disobey
The men who just don’t think it has anything to do with them
The purveyors of porn,
The users of prostituted poor women,
The men who take it out on their families and partners in the privacy of their home.
Yes there is a recurrent theme, and I am too angry to make it rhyme.

oh, there's quite a few rants, you'll be in good company!

That's why i love poetry.

there is no right or wrong way to write a poem.

any words can be a poem - all you have to do is say its a poem and it is and no one can argue with you!

hmmmm sounds a familiar concept!

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Boiledbeetle · 19/09/2023 08:59

IcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2023 13:40

Roisin Murphy
Judged, found terfy.

Anyone want to do another two lines?

Yet sat top of the chart.
A literal stab to a TRA heart.

Of course I don't know if she did she get to the top spot? i wasn't following what happened after the hoohah.

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Foiledbeetle · 18/09/2023 20:41

😁 for days when I'm feeling all bright and shiny. But also works for days when my plans to be productive have been hampered by a six hour snooze!

Boiledbeetle · 18/09/2023 18:52

I know other stuff has been posted, but I'm mesmerised by the foiled beetles!!

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