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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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SinnerBoy · 26/09/2023 07:20

Boiledbeetle

I sympathise with you suffering with a migraine, I hope it's gone ASAP.

By the by, Sumatripan sounds like an island with orangutans...

SinnerBoy · 26/09/2023 07:18

ArcaneWireless · 24/09/2023 23:50

That one was really good!

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 10:25

MrInbetween · Yesterday 19:06

So I’m no longer a woman I am a non-man.

My daughter is no longer a girl but a non-boy.

My female hound is a non-dog.

My Aunt is a non-uncle

My Sister is my non-brother

And the world has finally lost the fucking plot

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4904691-women-are-non-males-now-apparently-ffs?reply=129435286&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

DialSquare · Yesterday 19:10
Yep

Incidentally, this would make a great poem for Boiledbeetle's book!
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Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:42
It would! it has the required indignation and swearing combination!

If @MrInbetween wants it to be I'm more than happy to oblige

MrInbetween · Today 06:44
@Boiledbeetle I would be beyond honoured 🤣

It was not intentional to be poetic, turns out that us what happens when you’re really pissed off

@MrInbetween Ta-da!

Women are non males now apparently..... ffs | Mumsnet

What is this shit? Absolutely sick of it. Non males? Really???

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4904691-women-are-non-males-now-apparently-ffs?reply=129435286

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IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 10:10

Yes you do!

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Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 10:06

don't want to.

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IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 10:05

Yes, that one. Now, back to work.

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Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 10:00

bugger. I came on here to scrape up the last few days of poems and five minutes in and I'm browsing.!!!!!

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Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 09:59

this one?

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 3 August 2023

"Depicts a girl in a breast binder thus peddling the lie to children as young as NINE that they may have been born in the wrong body.

This pernicious ideology manipulates and damages young minds. Before this ‘social contagion’ took root, only about 1 in 110,000 people reported genuine gender dysphoria - now high-school teachers are reporting ten in every class. The result: girls as young as 15 having double mastectomies, boys of 16 being castrated, and thousands of teenagers taking irreversible puberty blockers with unknown long-term health effects (they give the boys Lupron, the drug used to perform chemical castration of violent sex offenders). Make no mistake, this is wrecking lives.

Speak up against this tragedy and you’re branded a transphobe or a TERF to silence any reasonable debate. I’m neither. What I am is a parent who’s deeply worried about the effects of this lie on children.

Want your child to hate and mutilate themself? Buy this book."

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IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 09:57

There's a book today in Amazon's Daily Deals for the kindle called 'You Grow Girl'. It's by a woman, Dr Zoe Williams, former Gladiator, currently working for the NHS, with a picture of a binder on the cover. One of the 1* reviews is satisfyingly scathing.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 09:51

Is that the two brothers? were quite cute when younger?

I wouldn't want that to be my doctor if he believes that shit.

what is this volume three people speak of?

Volume 2 is still a random pile of paper and computer bytes!

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CervixSampler · 25/09/2023 09:46

Which of the twin drs is the one they believes that people can change sex? My mum is horrified that a doctor can believe this. Didn't want to start a thread elsewhere and you never know, there might be a poem in it! In fact, as a nurse, I think we could do with. Chapter in volume 3 about the NHS and healthcare.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 08:52

Glad you're on the mend @Boiledbeetle

Love the latest @ArcaneWireless

@CervixSampler demonstrating that, however deluded IW may be, only women can grow cervixes. And published poets.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 08:26

I'm just thinking of the many wonderful occasions at school when Gingerbread will be able to go, "well Sir as a published political poet..."

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Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 08:13

CervixSampler · 25/09/2023 07:08

Hope you're feeling better this morning Boiled. Migraines are awful. Did you say the book should be available for Christmas? If so I'll be buying a few copies as presents. I'll be buying a few anyway but I like the idea of them as presents. Dd can take her copy to school and say look Miss/Sir I wrote some of these and my mum wrote some too. I doubt anyone else at school can say the same.

Much better! Although I'm not about to do any head banging just in case! As It's still lurking above an eyebrow deciding whether to kick off or not! But I can open both eyes which is always a bonus!

I don't work at the fastest of paces, but I'm hoping to get this done by the end of October/start of November. So hopefully if all goes well this should be available to buy as Christmas presents!

And then mini cervix can go and wind up the teachers!

(The above gives me some leeway to still get the Christmas present buyers even if it ends up taking me a little longer. As can never guarantee if I'm going to have a get up and do something week or a shoot me now can't actually move week)

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CervixSampler · 25/09/2023 07:08

Hope you're feeling better this morning Boiled. Migraines are awful. Did you say the book should be available for Christmas? If so I'll be buying a few copies as presents. I'll be buying a few anyway but I like the idea of them as presents. Dd can take her copy to school and say look Miss/Sir I wrote some of these and my mum wrote some too. I doubt anyone else at school can say the same.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 00:21

And you. Thank you for all your valiant poeming!

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ArcaneWireless · 25/09/2023 00:20

I hope it eases. Sleep well flower 😴

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 00:19

It's very... 'ish'. It's not full blown migraine level but not yet at normal headache level, somewhere around awful headache, but it's heading in the right direction. You've just reminded me to take another one before bed, hopefully it will be down to a dull thud by tomorrow.

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ArcaneWireless · 25/09/2023 00:10

How is your head beetle?

Have your pills kicked in? 🤕

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 00:01

😍😍 just in the nick of time I see

And the last bell strikes!

Not that I'm doing anything with them all for at least ten hours!

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ArcaneWireless · 24/09/2023 23:55

Sorry x

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ArcaneWireless · 24/09/2023 23:51

Sorry beetle

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ArcaneWireless · 24/09/2023 23:50

WWW

When some fowk in a toonser park
Shout wumman ken yer place
Ah’ve mair rights tae a skirt than ye
So shut yer bastart face

I wint tae dunce tae Abba
An’ yer spoilin’ ma day oot
Pit doon yer fuckin’ banner
I can slap yer teeth clean oot

They ken they winnae be punished
Jist telt aff an’ punted hame
They cannae help their sharny sels
They wint their chunce o’ fame

Dance an’ pout an’ cairry on
We a’ see whit ye’re daein’
Admit yer just oot for the menz
Perhaps ye’ll find it freein’

Cairry on disrupting quines
Wi yer chunts an’ singin’
Dress it up in satin drawers
We ken its baws yer swingin’

Boiledbeetle · 24/09/2023 22:33

And another poem! Whoop whoop!

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Boiledbeetle · 24/09/2023 22:32

First there was a thread

Then there was a book about a thread

Then there was a thread about a book about a thread

There will soon be a book about a thread about a book about a thread

Then there will have to be a thread about a book about a thread about a book about a thread.

Aghhhhhhhhh!

Head explodes!

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