Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.

*LK 😆

Windy* yes indeed

vixenred it may be months yet, see thread here

Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chamber) Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4671917-mermaids-vs-lgb-alliance-and-charity-commissioner-first-tier-tribunal-general-regulatory-chamber-thread-4?msgid=121928318#121928318

And as we now know that this thread is monitored

Good lord. Don't people have lives????

Was it Tony Benn who said: "To work out who has the power, look at whom you're not allowed to criticise."

And as we now know that this thread is monitored perhaps an answer may be provided on Yammer?

Does anyone know if Free Speech Union accepts Civil Servants/if we're allowed to join? I've had a quick look around their website and it seems to talk about unis but not CS?

Is there any update on the case Mermaids v's LGB Alliance yet? I can't seem to find anything on the Sex Matters or LGB Alliance website? I know the final submissions were completed a week or so ago.

We're being called out on that Yammer thread, with a request to let Tallisker know that it's only been locked, not deleted 😂. Nice bit of "what about the menz" being pulled up though, that was refreshing to see

Although they don't do NHS proper, it seems they do do certain NHS-adjacent ALBs* (they've accepted my application, anyway).

• Clue in username.

Although it's unpleasant, the public pushback on this issue is needed for there to be a more reasonable debate.
Policies and more are being imposed in the belief that they're a good thing but many of us are aware of the pitfalls that blindly following this line of 'inclusivity' may bring with it.

Another yammer thread deleted due to inability of people to discuss issues politely, civilly and constructively.

This one was highlighting International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, and there were some pretty unprofessional comments against the new network and were reported.

It's going to be an uphill struggle. My union sent a message saying although it was legal to hold gender critical views, expressing them at work was "a grey area" for management. So I no longer have representation if I were to fall foul of the witch hunts, the bullying and the harassment.

Petition signed. Thank you for sharing it. It’s a really good petition summary of the problem by whoever started it.

I think the DEFRA Yammer started off as an Environment Agency only thing, then it expanded to include the rest of us -the EA people are maybe a bit more Green Party aligned?

The snowflakes woudl all have a field day in my team, one colleague has English as a second language, and frequently uses his and hers randomly, it sometimes takes moment or two to work out who she's speaking about

LK1972 I rolled my eyes at that post this morning, last week it was trans day of remembrance, before that it was trans week of visibility or something. Can't women be a focus for once without trans being shoehorned in?

And yes, given the work Defra does, it's alarming that they think there are more than two sexes 🙄

On the face of it DEFRA should be the department most believing in biology and not ideology. I remember watching a production line once where they they were sexing little fluffy chicks. Only took a couple of seconds. Females were placed on a conveyor belt which dropped them into crates for the egg farm. Males were thrown like tennis balls into a big shipping crate to be ground up. Also had a friend who was a turkey inseminator (collected sperm -don’t ask- then shot it up the female). All these activities very much are reality driven.

Silent cowardice, yes that sums up how I feel. I also wonder if the TRAs and their cheerleaders especially vocal in DEFRA in comparison to other departments?

My Department doesn't have Yammer. Sounds like we might not be missing much. 🥴

Not in Defra, but solidarity and bump. Sounds shit, but I bet you’ll not be the only one silently fuming.

Anyone else in DEFRA seen a thread on Yammer - message from SEEN network on VAWG, of course the only 2 comments are:

Are transwomen included, 'cos it doesn't look that way?

What about violence in lesbian relationships and how about men scared of other men?

Absolutely fuming, in silent cowardice

Thank you @ScrollingLeaves The link is here: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618970

May I please follow up Scientistranswidow · Today 11:14 ‘s post with a plea to also sign the petition to stop the false premise, of ‘gender identity’ being taught in RSE lessons in schools including to very young children?

If the next generation is being brainwashed in plain sight nothing will change.

To sign and share, look up:
Remove references to 'gender identity' from relationships education guidance

Since 2020 the DfE has published guidance for relationships and sex education. This says "Pupils should be taught the facts and the law about sex, sexuality, sexual health and gender identity in an age-appropriate and inclusive way". Gender identity is a social construct, and not recognised in law.

There's no evidence that we're born with a ‘gender identity’, and we do not believe that schools should be teaching children about this concept. We also believe that teaching school children about gender identity is inconsistent with the Education Act (section 406), which prohibits 'political indoctrination'. The Government should remove all references to 'gender identity' from guidance on relationships and sex education.

I hope that I am the 100th person to flag up Sex-Matters' petition calling on the Gov to "Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex": petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243
The current number of signatories in 37K. We want to get it to 100K by Christmas.
Let's give it a big push.
Please forward to people who do not know that there is a link between the following: male sex offenders fraudulently ask to be transferred to women's prisons because they pretend to "be" women, the appalling teaching of "gender identity" in schools which seriously confuses vulnerable children, "transitioning" children is child abuse and arguably no adult should attempt to change their body chemically or surgically to match their deluded wish, the loss of single-sex toilets and changing rooms which really affects adolescent girls in schools (and is illegal under Schools Building Regulations), the shameful infiltration of men into women's categories of sports (FINA, UCI and, thankfully, World Rugby has, to its credit, decided that men's bodies crashing into women's bodies will definitely cause a lot of harm - and would bring legal claims for medical harms!), even in medical schools the extremists are trying to get the teachers to teach students the utterly unscientific concept of "gender" in substitution for sex (yes!! gladd.co.uk/activism-conversion-therapy-charter/) and others.
Thank you in advance for soliciting signatures.

Haven't RTFT yet, but just wanted to say hooray for this. I worked in the Government Equalities Office when all this started, and attempted to tackle it. Let's just say it didn't do my career any good at all and I am no longer a civil servant!

Ketzele thank you very much for trying. Sorry that your career has suffered as a result. I hope you’re happily working in a much less misogynistic workplace now.

Update from the SEEN network. Saying don't fret we will get back to you if you made an enquiry and sorry they can't do police and NHS.
seen-network.uk/posts/2022-11-21-network-update/

if you have not seen this on the other board, you might be interested in looking this up to sign it.

Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

The Government must exercise its power under s.23 of the Gender Recognition Act to modify the operation of the Equality Act 2010 by specifying the terms sex, male, female, man & woman, in the operation of that law, mean biological sex and not "sex as modified by a Gender Recognition Certificate"

The Equality Act 2010 covers nine separate protected characteristics, including “Sex” & “Gender Reassignment”. This protects people against sex discrimination and discrimination because a person is transgender.

There has been much confusion about how the Equality Act and GRA interact. This has caused uncertainty and conflict for women, transgender people, and service providers. The GRA includes a provision to amend other laws to make it clear whether a GRC changes the definition of sex for that law.

I've signed up and alerted a few likeminded colleagues (there are more of us than you'd think!). Anyone had an email yet? I'm itching to get involved.