Lindsay Clancy case: was it evil, or severe mental illness?

That’s not the law. I’m not sure why you’re posting incorrect stuff.

There’s a lot more going on there with that husband of hers .
She keeps saying she did it because Patrick told her she did.
Patrick, who went on holidays 19 days after his children were killed , was in a relationship less than a year later .
Her DNA was never found on those exercise bands only his was .

Clearly never seen anyone in the throes of psychosis then.

Women so rarely kill and especially their children that is almost unfathomable to us that a women, let along a mother could. It’s part of the myth or the precarious pedestal of motherhood

I fear the endless hunting to prove the man did it, might make us feel better but it misses the point and it might mean that we a society desperately miss the lesson on maternal expectations and mental health that this case must teach us.

Im not posting incorrect stuff. I never said it was the law I said it was my speculation of how it would be interpreted. Good grief! I’m a British lawyer not an American one. Fucking hell

But I think that is what people aren’t understanding. She has already been found guilty of killing her children, that’s not up for debate. The question is whether she is guilty of murder, in which case she will spend her life in prison, OR will she be found guilty of killing but not murder due to mental health, in which case she will spend her life in a mental institute. No way is she wanting to or can get out of it. The question is where she will be spending her time. In a place with people like Watts or in a place where she can receive help.

It still doesn’t stack up. What you’ve put about negligence isn’t correct.

And yet you have the red pills insulting women and defending Patrick…. You couldn’t make it up

Women so rarely kill and especially their children

This is incorrect. Whilst women commit a very small proportion of killings overall, women kill their own children at roughly the same rate as men.

WTF are you on about ???

Posts like this are indicative that something very strange is going on in relation to these murders. I have heard it described as Karmelo Anthony for white women and I can see why. For anyone who hasn’t heard of KA, he is a young black man in the US who murdered a white young man and, despite it being a pretty open and shut conviction, received huge support from many, mainly black, people, with huge sums raised and so on).

I am not comparing people wildly claiming that LC did not kill her children and/or that her exh did to those saying she should not be found guilty of first degree murder. Obviously these approaches are worlds apart. But I do think everyone should consider the extreme responses this case has raised - women dressing up in pink to stand outside the courthouse, the huge sums raised, the TikTok videos of women holding their babIes saying “Same, Lindsay”, the grinning and winking woman journalist etc etc - and should ask what on earth is going on to cause this.

Exactly this! It's really disturbing to see some of the reactions and strange to see such polarised reactions from men and women, with a lot of women supporting LC.
I think the crime is so horrific and goes against every instinct as a woman and mother, that some people can only contemplate another mother doing this if they are mentally ill. It doesn't seem clear cut to me at all. There is a distinct possibility she knew what she was doing.

There is something deeper going on in society alright and I don't know what it is.

I don’t buy the mental illness cover story. She killed her kids.

I’ve had female family members who have had psychosis, one in particular is a revolving door patient. She’s had ECG, lithium, all the heavy duty meds, all the counselling and she is still incredibly unwell a lot of the time. Diagnosed a schizophrenic, another family member bipolar.

During one of her episodes, she was convinced she was a cat. Another time she was very distressed as she believed she had no head and was walking around headless. I could go on and on about her delusions, voices, hallucinations etc. She’s never killed anyone though. The large majority of mentally unwell peoples don’t murder people brutally.

Shes mad AND bad. Evil.

No it is correct, 95% of family killings are done by men

No, the numbers of killings of a child by mother and father are roughly equal. Australian article but it seems to be the same in other countries. Amongst infants there are more killings by mothers, more killings of older children by fathers.

Where are you seeing this 95% figure?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/men-and-women-kill-their-children-in-roughly-equal-numbers-why/13074952

No, the numbers of killings of a child by mother and father are roughly equal. Australian article but it seems to be the same in other countries. Amongst infants there are more killings by mothers, more killings of older children by fathers.

Where are you seeing this 95% figure?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/men-and-women-kill-their-children-in-roughly-equal-numbers-why/13074952

Maybe the poster is referring to the statistic that 95% of violent crime is committed by men?

I don’t think she was let down by doctors, she had access to a lot of medical professionals and medication. I was trying to imagine the same scenario with the NHS, having to fill in a econsult then having to wait up to 48h for a phone call that might or might not offer you a face-to-face consultation…

You can just google family annihilation killing statistics

I see, you do indeed mean family annihilation killings.

To clarify, men commit the vast proportion of family annihilation killings, up to 95%.

But including all killings of their own children (so not just those murdered in a family annihilation) men and women kill roughly the same amount of children.

I don’t buy the mental illness cover story. She killed her kids.

I’ve had female family members who have had psychosis, one in particular is a revolving door patient. She’s had ECG, lithium, all the heavy duty meds, all the counselling and she is still incredibly unwell a lot of the time. Diagnosed a schizophrenic, another family member bipolar.

During one of her episodes, she was convinced she was a cat. Another time she was very distressed as she believed she had no head and was walking around headless. I could go on and on about her delusions, voices, hallucinations etc. She’s never killed anyone though. The large majority of mentally unwell peoples don’t murder people brutally.

Shes mad AND bad. Evil.