Why so much hate on MN?

I like facts just fine. You're the one who appears to be scared of them. 'Not that hard to get', well as I was saying to a pp, why don't you apply for it yourself then, seeing as you seem so jealous of people who get it? The way you're talking, it'd be a doddle.

Passed his test with flying colours so can't be that anxious

Well there we go. Apparently people can't possibly suffer from one of the multitude of Anxiety disorders if they can pass a driving test.

Why would I apply for Pip? I don’t need it, don’t deserve it and even if I did I wouldn’t apply as I am financially secure. Lucky me - there you go, saved you the trouble and, yes, in the past I have claimed benefits but, thankfully managed to get on my feet.

The OP started the thread with.

Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

I am addressing the highlighted.

Surely, the answer to your post is to ignore the poster, hide the thread, scroll on by, or start your own thread?

Er, no. Where would society end up if people just stuck their heads in the sand whenever they saw bigotry and injustice being tolerated/perpetuated?

You might want to do a bit of reading about the history of Germany in the 1930s and how Hitler came to power, to give just one example.

Regardless, there’s no reason he should be getting the amount of money he does. When his mother, without an ounce of awareness, says “he gets so much money he doesn’t know what to do with it” it’s wrong. The money is to help people and when others who are truly deserving don’t get it, there is something wrong with the system.

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

I hardly think so. The benefits system is shocking in this country. People who need it struggling and others who play the system coining it in.

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

Yes, it’s the same.

Because the Victorians were known for their UC, CB and PIP.

Well, your first paragraph is a false premise, so there is no need to address your patronising second paragraph.

Stop trying to shut down people who have a different view from yours.

Yes, it’s the same.

Because the Victorians were known for their UC, CB and PIP.

Yes, it’s the same.

Because the Victorians were known for their UC, CB and PIP.

I'm doing nothing of the sort. I'm saying if you won't bother to educate yourself, don't expect to be taken seriously.

Interesting that you assume I'm trying to shut you down, though, when at no point have I said 'stop talking' or anything even remotely approaching that. Do you normally confuse being disagreed with with being shut down? 🤔

I hardly think so. The benefits system is shocking in this country. People who need it struggling and others who play the system coining it in.

You might want to do a bit of reading about the history of Germany in the 1930s and how Hitler came to power, to give just one example.

An absurd comment. Playing in the rise of national socialism because posters have the temerity to question whether all benefit claimants are equally deserving of state support. It doesn’t automatically make people ignorant, or bigoted, or ‘far right’. Even this socialist government accepts that PIP is not fit for purpose.

So, if you expect to be taken seriously, you might want to think before posting.

You might want to do a bit of reading about the history of Germany in the 1930s and how Hitler came to power, to give just one example.

An absurd comment. Playing in the rise of national socialism because posters have the temerity to question whether all benefit claimants are equally deserving of state support. It doesn’t automatically make people ignorant, or bigoted, or ‘far right’. Even this socialist government accepts that PIP is not fit for purpose.

So, if you expect to be taken seriously, you might want to think before posting.

Setting aside the rudeness of that reply, you are correct that the interim Timms review has said PIP is not fit for purpose. But not because people are receiving benefits they shouldn't:

"Our work as a steering group to date has identified deep-rooted problems in both the design and delivery of PIP. Too many people describe the process as “dehumanising”, and this must be addressed. Processes can feel overly complex, repetitive and difficult to navigate, particularly for people whose needs fluctuate or are less visible. Delays or barriers in accessing support can have significant consequences for people’s ability to manage daily life, remain independent, and stay connected to work, family, and community. For some people, the current design and delivery of PIP itself can create barriers to participation, including in work, physical activity and community life. The scale and consistency of these findings suggest the challenges identified are systemic, rather than individual or case-specific.

We have reflected on the role and purpose of PIP - we agree a clearer emphasis on supporting independent living and participation in society, for example through volunteering, work, and cultural and social activities, would strengthen the aim of PIP. We also recognise that PIP alone will not always be sufficient, and that support and services can play an important role in addressing barriers"

You might want to think about being a little more polite.

You might want to think about being a little more polite.