Why so much hate on MN?

Which brings us back round to the consistency of deletions. Is telling somebody to grow up a personal attack? It's hard to keep up. Two posters have said it. Have they both been deleted?

Same as those who reckon they live next door to asylum seeker hotels - or used to, I suppose.

I agree with that actually. I have never been on benefits and my opinion counts, as does yours.

We just have different opinions. Mine is “ there but for the grace of God”.

You might think you know these people's full circumstances but you almost definitely don't have the full picture. PIP is very difficult to get and I simply do not believe you that you know four people who are faking disability. You're just choosing to assume that to suit your narrative. (And before you start assuming I must be on benefits myself, I'm not - I'm very fortunately still able to work, for now, albeit I have various chronic conditions I need to accommodate. But unlike some people I'm actually capable of empathising with those who need extra help in life, especially as I'm likely to need it myself one day.)

And you can call me dramatic if you like, I don't give a shit. What I actually am is angry. Not with any one specific poster, but with the utter ignorance and selfishness so many people display on these threads.

One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k)

Yep. As I suspected you know feck all about PIP. There would be no need for your acquaintance (who is seems unusually keen to share her son's financial circumstances with you) to hide savings.

If I was a suspicious type I'd conclude you are telling porkies.

I don't think I have seen anyone on this thread claim that? Could you link to the post please?

Why does she have to hide his savings? Has it suddenly become means tested but they’ve kept it a secret?

I am 100% positive I know these people and their details as I know them well. You choose not to believe me as you don't like facts. PIP is not that hard to get if one knows how to fill in the forms and what to say. There's an industry out of there of people who quite legitimately help people to fill in the forms and because they are back paid from when they first claimed, they agree to pay 50% of their backpay to these people. I don't know of any that have failed in their application with this help.

I am 100% positive I know these people and their details as I know them well. You choose not to believe me as you don't like facts. PIP is not that hard to get if one knows how to fill in the forms and what to say. There's an industry out of there of people who quite legitimately help people to fill in the forms and because they are back paid from when they first claimed, they agree to pay 50% of their backpay to these people. I don't know of any that have failed in their application with this help.

If you believe that Labour "rewards the workshy", could you tell me a) whether you are confident that there were never any fake claims for PIP when the Tories were in power, and b) why you think the proportion of new claims that are successful has been steadily dropping under Labour, and how this downward trend supports their alleged attempts to "reward the workshy"?

Passed his test with flying colours so can't be that anxious

Well there we go. Apparently people can't possibly suffer from one of the multitude of Anxiety disorders if they can pass a driving test.

No response to this yet @LuckyHazelFox. Is that because you're still ignoring me for some inexplicable reason, or is it simply the case that you can't think of a good answer?

Great, now I can hide this thread 👌

Good idea!

Well it's run its course and mods have answered so pointless continuing, unless posters are just hanging around to argue.

I didn't realise it was mandatory to answer and within a certain time frame. The work shy appear under every government's watch. Labour's back benchers like welfare to be handled delicately - their seats are at stake after all. Not sure about why the need for your last question. Posting etiquette applies to all of us -including you.

And you'd be wrong!

I found this interesting.

Benefits claims for teenagers diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and autism have more than tripled since the pandemic, with the sharpest rise seen in the richest areas.

More than one in 40 teenagers in the most affluent areas received Personal Independence Payments (Pip) last year for ADHD or autism, a study from the Nuffield Trust has found.

The findings have come to light before a government review into ADHD, autism and mental health services as concerns grow over their diagnosis rates.

Researchers said higher rates of new ADHD diagnoses in wealthier areas could partly reflect affluent families making greater use of private routes to diagnosis.

They warned that soaring demand for diagnosis and treatment risked “crowding out” the most severe cases and the “unnecessary and possibly harmful pathologisation of a sizeable proportion of the population”.

The Nuffield Trust report shows a quarter of 16 to 24-year-olds screened positive for ADHD symptoms in 2023-24, up from around 14 per cent in 2007. Researchers stressed that screening positive for symptoms does not amount to a clinical diagnosis.

Self-reported autism among 16 to 24-year-olds has also risen, from around 5 per cent in 2022 to 9 per cent in 2025