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Official Complaint to Mumsnet

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CoconutQueen · 02/02/2023 09:47

Totally inappropriate enormous vibrator adverts now ALL over Mumnset.

What on earth are you thinking of? Is Mumsnet really that short of cash that they have to stoop this low?

Not to mention the ridiculous woke language ie "people with wombs".

Totally inappropriate on ALL levels.

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SausageInCider · 02/02/2023 11:56

I found the people with wombs shite

www.mumsnet.com/articles/the-whisperer

Justanothercatlady · 02/02/2023 11:56

It’s obscene that women are reduced to being described as part of the female anatomy. Never mind the patronising pat on the head for ‘taboos’ and cheery coy responses. Did they get a bloody time machine and interview people from Stepford 1950s? (Apologies to women of the era who were open and paved the way for woman's rights! So bloody livid). It’s almost like HQ are focused on £ and not the actual community.

SilentNightDancer · 02/02/2023 11:55

Tinysoxxx · 02/02/2023 11:53

‘People that have wombs’ includes female babies upwards so I find that phrase distasteful.

‘women’ is the word they need to use. That covers women that have had hysterectomies too.

Good point. Baby girls are 'vulva owners' - are these toys suitable for them?

It's terrible language.

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/02/2023 11:55

ZeroFuchsGiven · 02/02/2023 11:49

Another gem from their site.

To be cisgender or cissexual is someone who's gender identity is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth. Someone with female genitals for example, may identify as a woman and so would be known as cisgender, often abbreviated as cis.

What is this utter shite?
No
NO

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TheFairyCaravan · 02/02/2023 11:54

I am so bloody sick of woman being treated like it’s a naughty word. We’re women, not vulva havers, womb owners or cervix havers or any other bollocks that you want to call us.

JusteanBiscuits · 02/02/2023 11:54

Moopsi · 02/02/2023 11:45

The point is that it says its for "people with wombs" 🙄

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I've only seen the quote around women with vulva's.

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 02/02/2023 11:53

FWIW if you add the Decreased Productivity extension to Chrome (if of course you use chrome), you can click it and it turns all websites to just plain text and gets rid of images. NOT that we should have to but if you're concerned about the ad it's a way around it.

Youwhatnowbiggles · 02/02/2023 11:53

First Justine labels Mumsnet users as ‘deranged’ in her Telegraph interview, then this🤦🏼‍♀️.

Tinysoxxx · 02/02/2023 11:53

‘People that have wombs’ includes female babies upwards so I find that phrase distasteful.

‘women’ is the word they need to use. That covers women that have had hysterectomies too.

Rooiboss · 02/02/2023 11:53

Jesus.. please don’t tell me mumsnet used that terminology. Are we going to be changing the forum name to peoplewithchildrennet next?

PizzaDeliveryZ · 02/02/2023 11:52

When are you going to start advertising hats for head havers, socks for foot havers, rings for people with at least one finger, jeans for people with legs, tissues for people with noses etc?

SausageInCider · 02/02/2023 11:51

I can’t see the people with wombs wording anywhere on the site - I can see “people with a clitoris” and “vulva owners”

also I could be after a new toy and it looks like they have a lot of options but there’s no fucking way I’m buying one from this company because of the dehumanising language they use.

so it looks like either nobody at MN is even slightly gender critical or they’re afraid to speak out about this absolute nonsense.

Rooiboss · 02/02/2023 11:51

Yeah I was embarrassed opening the website with my phone full view of colleagues!

Moopsi · 02/02/2023 11:51

RedCarsGoFaster · 02/02/2023 11:30

"Some of the wording"?

No no no no, read the room. This is an enormous issue and relates to trans politics. You need to decide where you stand and be consistent.

Either claim TWAW and alienate most of your female membership or accept that trans is much like a political or religious belief and is something that you will never be able to force upon us.

You need to be reviewing your own policies and practices, not discussing the wording of an advert. It's the entire ethos behind the damn words which are at fault and women won't wheesht any more.

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Oblomov22 · 02/02/2023 11:50

Cheryl has missed the point. Massively. We don't want we to discuss the points with Smile.

ArabellaScott · 02/02/2023 11:50

baby bottles as bullet points?

Why not tits, if we're going to be supportive of breastfeeding?

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 02/02/2023 11:50

Glad to say I haven’t seen that ad, but want to add that I have been upset for days about the Mumsnet pinned post about toys in the bedroom, and am annoyed that I can’t hide it. I really don’t want to see that when I log on and it is turning me off the site.

twanmever · 02/02/2023 11:50

TheOrigRights · 02/02/2023 10:56

Same. It was always turned back to me as if it was my problem.

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Yep, me too.

Boiledeggandtoast · 02/02/2023 11:50

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/02/2023 11:44

Good grief. Has MNHQ been taken over by 20 year old non-binary interns?

Embarrassed for you Mumsnet - and I bet most of our lovely moderators, who have to deal with the fall-out from this, feel the same.

Also, are you really recommending that new birthing parents should use this device INSIDE THEIR WOMBS? Because the tortuous newspeak language implies this and is, frankly, dangerous.

@JustineMumsnet have you actually seen this?

Well said.

ZeroFuchsGiven · 02/02/2023 11:49

Another gem from their site.

To be cisgender or cissexual is someone who's gender identity is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth. Someone with female genitals for example, may identify as a woman and so would be known as cisgender, often abbreviated as cis.

SwedishEdith · 02/02/2023 11:47

lifeissweet · 02/02/2023 11:30

Having just come across a thread about rimming, I don't see many women on here pearl clutching about something as ordinary as masturbation or feeling that Mums having sex is a taboo. Patronising.

Which was in the, formally hidden, (by Mumsnet) Sex topic.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/4733509-have-some-peoples-hidden-topics-become-unhidden?reply=123582727

BlusteryLake · 02/02/2023 11:47

DrMarciaFieldstone · 02/02/2023 09:57

‘For mothers and vulva owners’

WTAF

Do we think that was written by a penis owner?

C8H10N4O2 · 02/02/2023 11:47

CherylMumsnet · 02/02/2023 11:26

Hi everyone - thanks for your comments. We appreciate the strength of feeling. Clearly, some of the wording used is unpopular with many of you. We’re going to discuss all the points raised with Smile Makers and will get back to you asap. Please do continue to share your thoughts - we are listening.

"some of the wording" - seriously as PP say read the room.

This is still a women centered site, despite years of attacks. Many users don't use adblockers because the site relies on ad revenue.

When you present a stack of adverts which are sexist, reduce us to bits of biology, don't even get that biology correct - you are just inviting us to step up the adblockers and make the problem go away.

You might want to consider that if you wouldn't sell the male produce to a "penis haver" or a "testical owner" then don't flog the women's version to a dehumanised "random bit of biology which you may or may no thave"

YesitsBess · 02/02/2023 11:47

It's just such an awful thing to be blared at a new mum really, I'm not sure it's even pearl-clutching it's more:

HEY NEW MUM WHO IS PROBABLY EXHAUSTED AND WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING WRONG...

GUESS WHAT?

YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY BE WORRYING THAT YOU'RE* *NOT HORNY AS HELL ALSO!

All over the site.

Bonus points for using baby bottles as bullet points also.

The reductionist language point has been covered more eloquently than I could.

EtonMessy · 02/02/2023 11:47

How did anyone of us have 2nd, 3rd ect children if sex in motherhood is taboo ? ! Is sex ok before your first child but any sex after that is banned ?!! 🧐
And don’t get me started on vulva and womb owners !! 🙄