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What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?

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PalatineHill · 15/11/2022 14:07

Hi MNHQ. Please just take it out. Or let me opt out of it? It looks a mess.

If here’s something that I might also like to read, I’ll find it by using the search function.
These suggestions are just encouraging the posting of the same points on multiple similar threads, and that will discourage healthy normal thread death.

It’s really distracting to look at visually, I really liked the uncluttered ‘clean’ MN format compared to other forums.

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GoodnightGentleBoris · 16/11/2022 16:31

If it isn’t a site that you want to or can use, alternative sites are available!

Sound like the shit kind of manager that says "I'd you don't like, it get another job"

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 16/11/2022 16:36

I had to pop out to deal with something and there are loads more posts on this thread.

It's not appearing in "active" though.

Funny that!

Beees · 16/11/2022 16:35

If it isn’t a site that you want to or can use, alternative sites are available!

Of course there are other sites for people to use and it's clear from the amount of posts since the last major update that many have chosen to use these other sites.

Nevertheless people don't actually want the site to close entirely and therefore offer criticism and alterative ideas yet when posters helpfully take time to give feedback which is constantly ignored it stands to reason people will get frustrated.

GoodnightGentleBoris · 16/11/2022 16:31

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 16/11/2022 15:50

You do realise that MN aren’t providing the service out of the goodness of their hearts - it’s a business and we are the product. It’s not unreasonable to think they could spend a bit of time listening to what people actually want, or to take proper action when users point out how unsuitable a feature is for this site. Given that if we weren’t here they wouldn’t really have a business, as others have pointed out

If it isn’t a site that you want to or can use, alternative sites are available!

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 16/11/2022 16:31

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet @LilyMumsnet whatever "tweaks" you have put in place are not working. On this new thread started today the 5 "you might like this threads are:
1 from February 2022, 3 from August 2022 and 1 from a mere 3 weeks ago (where any advice given now is long past useless anyway). The whole thing is junk and it just going to lead to people wasting their time trying to help with problems that were resolved months ago!

Beees · 16/11/2022 16:30

GoodnightGentleBoris · 16/11/2022 15:45

I think this new feature is a bit crap but I have no idea where people get off talking like this.

MN isn’t a small child to apologise to you, it’s an established business and forum that mostly takes on board the suggestions of users and is free to use.

As for “the site is unusable!!!”, no it isnt, it’s a bit inconvenient to scroll an extra click but doesn’t make it unusable

You don't understand why people talk like I did? It's simple, it's out of pure frustration that every bloody 'tweak' makes the site less user friendly.

We are the reason MN exists. We are their product and surely it's common bloody sense to listen to the people who make the site when they almost unanimously agree these so called upgrades are anything but. However time and time again MN show they don't actually listen and instead plow on regardless.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/11/2022 16:27

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet @LilyMumsnet
It's a hard 'no' from me as well. I really can't understand why this unasked for and unwanted feature has been introduced. Especially now that the search function is working well.
Please get rid.

BoobsOnTheMoon · 16/11/2022 16:26

Oh god it's awful, why the fuck did anyone think this was a good idea?!?

@LilyMumsnet @YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet can you at least make it appear under the reply box? Please?

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 16/11/2022 16:05

I agree it's awful. I resurrected a 2-month old thread (so only very mildly zombie) earlier today by accident because of this. I hadn't noticed the feature when I am browsing on my phone but today I am on my laptop and it's a lot more prominent.

TrashyPanda · 16/11/2022 16:03

if it is such a great feature, then why not have it on Site Stuff?

if the reason is to assist users with searching, as stated above, then surely it would be beneficial on Site Stuff, which is where users post about issues?

TrashyPanda · 16/11/2022 15:59

nobody has asked MN to “tweak” this.

they’ve asked for it to be made optional or to be ditched.

the users do not like this function or it’s prominence.

why won’t you address why your are ignoring user feedback?

LookItsMeAgain · 16/11/2022 15:54

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 16/11/2022 15:05

I am waiting expectantly for the carpet fitter thread to resurface for the umpteenth time now.

Thank the lord that one actually got filled up and won't accept more posts 😁

Plenty more out there though!

MN are always saying that they can't do anything about zombie threads (when they absolutely can) and now they are actively encouraging them.

Appalling.

Ah no! I really liked that thread...
And the way it kept reappearing every year...without the need for a box saying "You might also like" 😂

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 16/11/2022 15:50

GoodnightGentleBoris · 16/11/2022 15:45

I think this new feature is a bit crap but I have no idea where people get off talking like this.

MN isn’t a small child to apologise to you, it’s an established business and forum that mostly takes on board the suggestions of users and is free to use.

As for “the site is unusable!!!”, no it isnt, it’s a bit inconvenient to scroll an extra click but doesn’t make it unusable

You do realise that MN aren’t providing the service out of the goodness of their hearts - it’s a business and we are the product. It’s not unreasonable to think they could spend a bit of time listening to what people actually want, or to take proper action when users point out how unsuitable a feature is for this site. Given that if we weren’t here they wouldn’t really have a business, as others have pointed out

minipie · 16/11/2022 15:50

Another one saying please get rid.

Or if that’s not an option PLEASE can it be moved to underneath the posting box rather than above.

When I am using MN on my phone (I don’t use the app just the site) this new feature means I have to scroll down a long way to be able to post a reply. And half the time I cba, especially if phone is being a bit slow.

If others are the same, it’s losing you posts.

GoodnightGentleBoris · 16/11/2022 15:45

Beees · 16/11/2022 14:25

Agree completely. MNHQ are acting a small child being caught in a lie and instead of appologising and admitting their mistake they double down and start spouting rubbish to try and justify their angle.

It doesn't need to be tweaked, it just doesn't need to be there full stop.

No wonder MNs cost and outgoings are so high if they are splashing money on such unnecessary nonsense.

I think this new feature is a bit crap but I have no idea where people get off talking like this.

MN isn’t a small child to apologise to you, it’s an established business and forum that mostly takes on board the suggestions of users and is free to use.

As for “the site is unusable!!!”, no it isnt, it’s a bit inconvenient to scroll an extra click but doesn’t make it unusable

AriettyHomily · 16/11/2022 15:31

So this is why there are all the old threads? Boring and pointless and doesn't add anything useful at all.

KateBalesCardi · 16/11/2022 15:27

I almost gave up on MN when they did the 'upgrade' and, despite the numerous tweaks, I'm still finding it much less enjoyable and can feel myself losing interest. Trending had already become boring and repetitive and 'you might also like' has just made that worse, as well as increasing the resurrection of the zombie threads we all hate. I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to do MNHQ, none of the changes since the upgrade are any kind of improvement, quite the reverse Confused

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 16/11/2022 15:05

I am waiting expectantly for the carpet fitter thread to resurface for the umpteenth time now.

Thank the lord that one actually got filled up and won't accept more posts 😁

Plenty more out there though!

MN are always saying that they can't do anything about zombie threads (when they absolutely can) and now they are actively encouraging them.

Appalling.

GeneratedRandomly · 16/11/2022 15:01

If I want to read old threads I look for them. They don't need bumping by people who didn't see them the first time and think they are new (and ignore the date they were first posted).

If you insist on cluttering up the site with this useless feature, please could you put a warning on the old threads that they are Zombies BEFORE people read them to the end and then reply because not everyone will see the date, being conditioned to assume that active means recent.

I am waiting expectantly for the carpet fitter thread to resurface for the umpteenth time now.

TimBoothseyes · 16/11/2022 15:01

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 16/11/2022 13:55

Thanks, everyone! Based on your feedback we’re making some changes so that older threads are less likely to be shown. We’re also adding in more controls for sensitive topics and, after that, we’ll tweak it again so that older threads are less likely to appear in Trending.

Translation " we're not bothered that the majority don't want this feature. we're doing it any way, so there! <pokes out tongue>"

Don't "tweak" it.....get rid of it.

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 16/11/2022 14:58

Adding another one to the voices saying please get rid. As a feature it's not providing any functionality that you can't get elsewhere on the site. Its adding clutter, both in the UI and by reanimating zombie threads, and it's really tone deaf. No, I wouldn't "like" to see more threads about abusive ex's.

It's bad site design and a frequent reminder that part of your business model is monetising people's trauma.

ZeroFuchsGiven · 16/11/2022 14:54

saraclara · 16/11/2022 14:48

"free movies" few minutes, ffs. Though maybe being cluttered up with free movies will be next!

It wouldnt surprise me actually a 'if you want to comment on this thread please watch this ad/movie' thats how ridiculous its getting round here Grin

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 16/11/2022 14:52

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

We don't want to endure the "tweaking"

Please take it away to tweak and never bring it back

saraclara · 16/11/2022 14:48

"free movies" few minutes, ffs. Though maybe being cluttered up with free movies will be next!

saraclara · 16/11/2022 14:47

Also it's ridiculous that it's there between the last post and the reply box. Yesterday I thought I'd been logged out as there was nowhere for my reply. Only after a free movies did I realise that I had to scroll past the clutter to find the reply box.