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Trans topic. Please.

165 replies

Universitychallenging · 22/03/2017 13:10

Please can we have a trans topic. The site is over run with trans threads and I'd like to be able to hide the whole lot of them.

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SookiesSocks · 23/03/2017 07:13

Why are they self indulgent Uni?

Are the threads expressing concern that male sex attackers are being placed in womens prisons leaving women vulnerable self indulgent?

Or that a rape is being reported and recorded as being committed by a women....with a penis was that thread self indulgent?

I see them as important concerns that affect men and women so I am struggling with your view that they are self indulgent can you explain your stance please?

Beachcomber · 23/03/2017 07:11

Question was asked and answered a few months ago. Of course MNHQ could change their mind if they felt circumstances had changed.

www.mumsnet.com/TalkTalk/site_stuff/2737909-Please-can-we-have-a-Trans-topic?msgid=63792234#63792234

I don't think it sits right with the ethos of the site to create such a topic - transgenderism is discussed here as a women's rights issue or in the news or parenting, these topics exist already. Plus topics are generally created on request by those that want to use them rather than because some posters want a subject forced off the main boards.

Universitychallenging · 23/03/2017 07:11

No cote. You have no idea what I have or have not done.

I have merely reached a different conclusion to you.

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ImsorryTommy · 23/03/2017 07:10

I'd like the option to filter so could hide all of them. I agree with quite a lot on trans threads but there's nothing new now. Just the same people saying the same things.

And people don't check what is already there (this isn't exclusive to trans threads) so you end up with several saying 'this is not a woman!' or whatever.

CoteDAzur · 23/03/2017 07:09

University - I suppose you can choose to remain naive and uninformed. I did not realize that was a desirable outcome for you, which is why I said that you need to talk, listen, read (for better understanding and awareness).

Before you go off saying "How dare you call me ignorant. I know everything" etc... No, you don't. The stuff you have posted, such as "What if a woman doesn't have any eggs, is she not a woman" and your answers to others' posts clearly show that you have not given this topic more that's a few minutes' thought.

As I said, stick around and see what you think some time later.

Universitychallenging · 23/03/2017 07:05

Well that may be but then I view the repeated starting of trans threads as self indulgent.

But, as I have said, it's up to hq.

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SookiesSocks · 23/03/2017 07:02

It is up to mnhq and the countless threads before yours asking for a trans topic did not result in one either so I get the impression its a no.

The reason you give of "I dont want to see them" just isnt enough is it. Its very self indulgant and a bit daft when you think nobody forces you to read any thread....so just dont.

WateryTart · 23/03/2017 06:55

FFS, just don't read them. It isn't hard.

Plenty of posts I don't open but don't whine about them.

Universitychallenging · 23/03/2017 06:53

That's your perception. Possibly they might feel that but it's up to mnhq.

The threads in the last day or two have been very hostile to hq.

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SookiesSocks · 23/03/2017 06:50

So you contributed to trans threads mostly by stating a person with a penis is a women. Some posters agreed with you and some didnt but because your view that a woman can have a penis was not shared by all you have now decided trans threads should have their own topic.
Seems a bit like you are having a tantrum tbh.

Shouts of trans hate/transphobia litter most if not all of the trans threads, in my view if mnhq gave trans its own topic they run the risk of being accused of creating it just for trans hate speech.
I doubt they want to leave themselves open to that interpretation.

Universitychallenging · 23/03/2017 06:27

Sorry cote. You are quite correct. You said I need to talk, ask and more importantly read.

No. I don't need to do any of those things and it is totally presumptuous of you to instruct me what I need to do. You are not my keeper

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DioneTheDiabolist · 23/03/2017 00:28

Wow OP, have you really posted a zillion times on trans threads?Shock

CoteDAzur · 22/03/2017 21:21

Who said you have to do anything? Hmm

Universitychallenging · 22/03/2017 21:14

No. I don't have to do anything.

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RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 22/03/2017 20:53

You get sand on your eyeballs

Sage advice there...you can thank me later

CoteDAzur · 22/03/2017 20:47

Your posts on that thread show that you are only just beginning to debate this subject. You might eventually be able to contribute. For now, you need to talk, ask, and more importantly, read.

MN's trans threads have opened the eyes of many people on here. Stick around and you might see why. Putting your head in the sand is rarely a good strategy.

Universitychallenging · 22/03/2017 20:40

I thought I could contribute something and engage in debate. But trans here is just one long navel gazing exercise with a party line that brooks no debate.

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CoteDAzur · 22/03/2017 20:34

OP - If you so don't want to see trans threads, why have you posted a zillion times on both trans threads running at the moment, this one and this one?

Gallavich · 22/03/2017 20:28

No to a trans thread topic

Gallavich · 22/03/2017 20:27

No to a trans thread thank you

The discussion of trans issues is because trans is an ideology. There is a difference between saying 'all trans women are rapists' and 'trans ideology harms women'.
Threads that are critical of religious ideologies are allowed to stand, and whilst hate speech such as 'all muslims are terrorists' is not allowed, 'Islam is harmful to women' would be.
Trans ideology is highly topical and rapidly encroaching on women's rights. These discussions aren't going away, sorry.

Sparklingbrook · 22/03/2017 20:09

I have everything hidden apart from about 10 topics. So I manage to avoid most things I am not interested in a heated debate on MN about.

But threads on those topics keep escaping into Chat/AIBU.

MiriamWebster · 22/03/2017 20:09

A trigger warning? Why? Usually they have "trans" in the title. If that is triggering then hide the thread.

ZackyVengeance · 22/03/2017 19:45

I have changed my mind
Even with a topic people would not use it
After seeing a thread about the london terror in aibu
People dont look at topice, they just post in aibu. Or chat

Perhaps all trans threads could just have a trigger like warning

Wh0Kn0wsWhereTheTimeGoes · 22/03/2017 19:42

Amongst the ones I have hidden are Feminism, Chat and AIBU, I too have had enough of the Trans threads. However I have learnt a great deal from them over the last year or so, I just need a break from them for the time being.

TiggyD · 22/03/2017 19:37

Thank you Who.

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