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Linking Sensitive Threads to Social Networking Sites

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WhenwillIfeelnormal · 21/02/2011 14:26

Please can you take a look at this thread in AIBU which explains the rationale behind this appeal.

When Mumsnet decided to provide the facility to link threads to Facebook and Twitter, several of us had grave reservations about this move. When it was clear that Mumsnet was going to continue with the policy, I started a thread asking for you to consider removing the buttons from the most sensitive discussion boards, such as Relationships, Bereavement and SN. Others made similar requests and you were kind enough to agree.

At the time, I said that just removing the buttons without having a permanent request and rationale on display, might not be enough to dissuade posters from linking sensitive threads to those sites. Unfortunately, no such written appeal has been displayed.

Last night a poster decided to link a very sensitive thread on to Twitter and the issue for me is not about privacy. The OP in that thread is pragmatic enough to know that what we write on here can never be considered private.

The issue is more to do with human consideration and making a decision not to invite Twitter followers to gawp at another person's distress.

Could you please consider writing a policy on this issue, with clear expectations about users' behaviour, including any penalties that will occur if this is transgressed. Could this policy also be reinforced at the top of each of the non-Twitter/FB linked boards please, because it is evident from the AIBU and sensitive thread concerned, that many users hadn't noticed the absence of the FB and Twitter buttons on those boards.

Thank you.

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Maryz · 21/02/2011 19:57

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MumInBeds · 21/02/2011 19:52

If someone on my twitter feed linked something I thought it unfair to link then I would challenge them on twitter not on the site linked to.

That said, I am firmly of the school that you don't post online anything you want to keep hush.

Blatherskite · 21/02/2011 19:32

"But if MN had just put at the top of the thread, that they would prefer these topics not to be tweeted, I think the person in question might've thought twice. I hope, anyway."

You're right, she might. But the likes of Matthew Wright and the Daily Mail definitely wouldn't and both lift threads from MN with alarming regularity.

All that would be achieved by putting a request that details not be copied anywhere else, is further reinforce some posters false sense of security. What you type on here is all Google-able and is regularly trawled by journos for an easy story. You wouldn't stop some people ending up heartbroken, in fact you'd only make it worse because the perpetrator would be some anonymous web trawler and not another MNer that you can start thread after thread attacking to make yourself feel better for being so daft.

ScaredOfCows · 21/02/2011 18:48

It would be interesting to know what MNHQ's opinion on this is.

traceybath · 21/02/2011 18:38

A little bit at the top of relationships perhaps asking people not to tweet threads may work I guess.

I don't think Alouise did it maliciously and its just a salient lesson that when anything is posted on the internet its there for all to see.

Stupiditysquared · 21/02/2011 18:37

TSH, you provided some great perspective on my thread, for which many thanks.

So I ask you, do you think it is right that I am tweeted on Twitter as being someone who is either a troll or has had their vagina sewn up? Do you think that is a kind thing to do? To someone who is frankly in a complete mess?

Because it's all very well being told that it's unpoliceable. But if MN had just put at the top of the thread, that they would prefer these topics not to be tweeted, I think the person in question might've thought twice. I hope, anyway.

TheShriekingHarpy · 21/02/2011 18:32

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Stupiditysquared · 21/02/2011 18:28

Some do, Noddy. And some don't :(

noddyholder · 21/02/2011 18:22

MN shouldn't have to police it we are all adults and should have an inbuilt respect o meter Grin!

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 18:17

I can assure you that on my computer with google safesearch on "strict" it is the top result for both

on "moderate" search setting (where I usually keep it), it's on the bottom of the 3rd page for "the web" and 4th result for "the UK"

with safe search switched off it's still bottom of the 3rd page for "the web" and 4th on the UK results.

That's without using any quotes to search with

PlentyOfParsnips · 21/02/2011 18:13

I saw the thread and I thought it was cruel and unnecessary to tweet it. Hope things are calming down for you now, SS.

Realistically, I don't think MNHQ could actually enforce such a policy, but it wouldn't hurt to put a polite request at the top of sensitive topics - it might make some people think twice. Perhaps the absence of buttons in certain topics is too subtle a hint.

Rannaldini · 21/02/2011 18:13

ffs
i've just googled that

it wasn't on the first page with or without quotes
not that discoverable or alternately this is more of a problem than we think

maybe what we actually need is a hotline?

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 18:02

on both "the web" and "the UK"

ThePosieParker · 21/02/2011 18:02

It's not fourth on my list.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 18:02

actually if I take off "moderate" search and put it on safe search it's the top link

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 18:01

actually only one of them is dodgy, one is "dearcupid", the other is another forum.

Tee2072 · 21/02/2011 17:58

I am afraid of what the first 3 links might be, Baroque. Hmm

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 17:58

How do you define "sensitive" though??

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 21/02/2011 17:57

actually if you post "dad found wanking in the bathroom" on a UK search on google it's 4th on the list........so a lot more public than a tweet or a FB (unless they happen to be a tweeter or a FBer who has their setting to "everyone"......which I think is very very few MNers)

Tee2072 · 21/02/2011 17:52

SS, it isn't mostly known. Also, you can have as many Twitter accounts as you have email addresses. And it takes 10 minutes or less to set up an anonymous email address and twitter name if you want to tweet sensitive threads.

If I really wanted to Tweet something sensitive from MN for whatever reason, I could cover my tracks from MN in about 15 minutes tops. The only thing that might be the same is my IP address and I all I'd have to do there is change computers. And I have 3 of them in my house. I wouldn't even need to move from the sofa, actually.

There is nothing MN can do.

This is probably why they haven't posted on this thread.

wannaBe · 21/02/2011 17:49

and who is going to decide what is a sensitive thread.

And what if, as happened in riven's case, every mumsnetter on twitter tweets it? do you ban them all?

DinosaursHateUnderpants · 21/02/2011 17:44

And I have every sympathy for those saying that's it's not right to tweet or link to sensitive topics, but the fact is that it is totally unenforceable with any kind of 'penalty'. All MN can do is warn/advise against doing so and appeal to better nature, but it won't be infallible by a long way.

Stupiditysquared · 21/02/2011 17:43

You could make it MN policy not to allow tweeting of sensitive threads. No-one's asking MN to have an active policing role - it wouldn't be possible. But when someone steps over the line, and it's known (as it mostly is) who that person is, then surely to goodness, we can stop that sort of behaviour?

I say nothing about the ethics or morality about laughing about someone else's distress. Because clearly, to some posters, that's a total irrelevance.

DinosaursHateUnderpants · 21/02/2011 17:39

I see it wannabe. I really do.

DinosaursHateUnderpants · 21/02/2011 17:38

May have been easy this time, but it won't often be easy and if you aren't policing everyone then it's just not doable. And I still don't understand how MN could say that you can't link to threads on FB or Twitter when that link is freely available on a public website elsewhere - how can it be private when it's on a site that is public? It just can't.