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Linking Sensitive Threads to Social Networking Sites

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WhenwillIfeelnormal · 21/02/2011 14:26

Please can you take a look at this thread in AIBU which explains the rationale behind this appeal.

When Mumsnet decided to provide the facility to link threads to Facebook and Twitter, several of us had grave reservations about this move. When it was clear that Mumsnet was going to continue with the policy, I started a thread asking for you to consider removing the buttons from the most sensitive discussion boards, such as Relationships, Bereavement and SN. Others made similar requests and you were kind enough to agree.

At the time, I said that just removing the buttons without having a permanent request and rationale on display, might not be enough to dissuade posters from linking sensitive threads to those sites. Unfortunately, no such written appeal has been displayed.

Last night a poster decided to link a very sensitive thread on to Twitter and the issue for me is not about privacy. The OP in that thread is pragmatic enough to know that what we write on here can never be considered private.

The issue is more to do with human consideration and making a decision not to invite Twitter followers to gawp at another person's distress.

Could you please consider writing a policy on this issue, with clear expectations about users' behaviour, including any penalties that will occur if this is transgressed. Could this policy also be reinforced at the top of each of the non-Twitter/FB linked boards please, because it is evident from the AIBU and sensitive thread concerned, that many users hadn't noticed the absence of the FB and Twitter buttons on those boards.

Thank you.

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CiderhouseBob · 22/02/2011 21:20

I also see my membership of MN as a privilege and an honour, and I do see it as a community. I really do.
It's the only one to which I really belong - well, I suppose there is the school gate and there is our road, but this is the place I gravitate to on a daily basis.

CiderhouseBob · 22/02/2011 21:18

I know a few people's names on here but mainly through private messaging or email, and I wouldn't pass on their names without knowing I could trust the person I was telling...personal information needs to remain very much within the bounds of sensitivity and implicit confidence. I see having any of that sort of information as a privilege and an honour, never to be abused...even if absolutely gasping to shout it out on here, that I have an email from someone famous or highly respected. You just don't.

And whether I could find out their addresses or not, it isn't something I would wish to do, because something stops me, and that is probably the concept that it would not be a decent thing to do, and I wouldn't want them to do it to me.

So you could look at it that way...maybe ALG would be happy to have this done to her, I don't know, but if she wouldn't I would suggest she desists from doing it to others.

It's very simple, really.

Prolesworth · 22/02/2011 21:07

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noddyholder · 22/02/2011 19:06

I agree with bibbity. I have recently started to write a v short column/piece for a mag and even a year ago I may have linked to it here to see what people thought but now feels v different.

dittany · 22/02/2011 19:01

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bibbitybobbityhat · 22/02/2011 18:54

Justine's response lost me when she mentioned "communities such as ours ..." because the whole message behind these two or three threads is, of course, that Mumsnet is NOT a community.

And there is no longer any point pretending that we are.

So, time for a re-think and a shake-up, much as there was after the DM affair.

dawntigga · 22/02/2011 18:51

dittany if I truly wanted to I could find out so much information about most people on here - anyone could it isn't hard.

If you want to be as unrecognisable as possible in rl be circumspect at least.

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socialhandgrenade · 22/02/2011 18:33

Well if she chooses not to apologise people will draw their own conclusions, not necessarily as generous as CiderhouseBob. At the moment MN feels like I've been warped back in time to the playground. It's so depressing..

CiderhouseBob · 22/02/2011 18:10

Well I've noticed it before, that she tends to post with the heart of a politician...no apologies, no giving in whatsoever - but she was nice on one thread I met her on, so there is a balance there - she isn't, like, Pure Evil.

However I do think on this occasion she has acted wrongly. And I think she should apologise, but I'm really not sure she has it in her to. It is a shame as I suspect she wants to.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 22/02/2011 17:53

Alouiseg - you have been told that your actions have caused upset and hurt to another person. Even if it was accidental, you still owe her an apology - that is good manners and decent behaviour. You shouldn't need to be told this.

socialhandgrenade · 22/02/2011 17:29

I will never even bother looking at another post by AlouiseG, I'm sure many other people will skip on past her posts, as she has outed herself as a person with no compassion. The original tweet could have been excused, but the lack of remorse for the hurt she caused SS is really unforgivable.

wannaBe · 22/02/2011 17:09

dittany no you are not anonimous online. Not in terms of that everyone on here knows your name and address, but in so much as that you can never be sure who might know your name and address. If you (not you personally, anyone on here) are posting information about yourself on a website such as here you have no idea of knowing who is reading it. People don't have to identify themselves to you - they may choose not to in fact.

Which is why you should never post anything online that you wouldn't want your friends and family in rl to read.

Even by namechanging you are not anonimous - "found porn in the bathroom" would be easily identifyable to dh or children of the op in that thread.

People have the right to post sensitive information here. They just shouldn't consider that the internet is a safe haven for doing so.

Alouiseg · 22/02/2011 15:57

Posie, why don't you just post the actual message rather than making up a load of bull?

I've replied to your pm btw.

ThePosieParker · 22/02/2011 15:52

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ThePosieParker · 22/02/2011 15:48

And what you did regarding linking someone's heartbreaking situation online was uncalled for and attention seeking, btw MN tweeters....now that you tell everyone your real names online and then start threads telling everyone....do you think I should tell everyone your real names? I mean it's public afterall.

noddyholder · 22/02/2011 15:48

Good lord alouise Having read all this I wonder what sort of a RL you have to bring so much shit to the internet

Alouiseg · 22/02/2011 15:45

Well I could have posted it on here. It was the comparison to religion that really offended you wasn't it.

I can't bleach my mind of what I've read.

ThePosieParker · 22/02/2011 15:29

Alouiseg....I am deeply disappointed in your personal message, especially regarding what you've gleaned in deleted threads. I guess the internet really doesn't represent real people to you, I actually thought behind your posting was a nice person.....seems I am wrong.

dittany · 22/02/2011 15:21

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dawntigga · 22/02/2011 15:19

WWIFN:

It's not about privacy. It's not about anonymity.

You've missed the point, there is NO anonymity online.

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ThePosieParker · 22/02/2011 14:59

Alouise, I said I would find it difficult to see where DH would have the time to look at porn, given we spend most evenings together, his work laptop has blocks to prevent any porn and our family PC is in the playroom. He is also not as technically savvy as me, or indeed my BIL who has put blocks on our PC. His phone contract is in my name as are all bills.....

But if you have any other ideas about when and how my husband is using porn please make your suggestions.

He's been to Amsterdam and, whilst he denies any wrong doing, I have no shame in admitting that he could have done anything whilst there...and I would never know. There are people that know their partners don't use porn, those that think they know their partners don't use porn, those that don't want to know either way and those that know that their partners are using porn. I just don't understand why you have to insist that everybody uses porn.

Alouiseg · 22/02/2011 14:27

Good question MmeLindt, honestly, I'm not sure. Ive never gone out of my way to "break any rules" but when I was c&p the link it didn't occur to me to check with the rules first. I certainly didnt look for a Twitter or Facebook widget to make the link.

MmeLindt · 22/02/2011 14:16

Aloiseg
Can I ask if you would have linked to the thread if you had known that it was frowned upon my MNHQ, and if there was a statement to that affect on the topic.

Which still does not address the other issue here -

Anyone can link to a thread on Twitter. Any journalist can spot a thread on MN and use it for an article. And we can do nothing about it.

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