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Reform lost 6 by elections this week ๐ŸŽ‰

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TheRealSmurfette · 05/10/2026 03:38

Some good news to start the week!
The mainstream media might be quiet about it, but the numbers donโ€™t lie: Reform UK just lost SIX by-elections in a single week.

Their momentum is officially hitting a wall. On Thursday, they failed to win across the UK and even lost the incumbent seats they were supposed to defend:

  • Amble Ward (Northumberland) โ€” LOST (Gained by Labour)
  • Hirst Ward (Northumberland) โ€” LOST (Reclaimed by Labour)
  • Claremont Ward (Blackpool) โ€” LOST (Held by Labour)
  • Long Whatton & Diseworth Ward (NW Leicestershire) โ€” LOST (Held by Conservatives)
  • Wick & East Caithness Ward (Highland) โ€” LOST (Stormed by Lib Dems)
  • Forth & Endrick Ward (Stirling) โ€” LOST (Held by Conservatives) about:blank 1, 2]

The right-wing vote is splitting down the middle, squeezing them out in low-turnout battles. Proof that real, local communities are seeing through the rhetoric.

Keep it up lads! ๐Ÿ™Œ

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placemats · 18/10/2026 00:06

Worrall20 · 17/10/2026 23:19

Maybe because Labour are very hypocritical. My defence is not of Reform, as you put, but the general disgust with politicians not being honest from all parties.

Start your own thread then about it.

A reminder to watch the ITV programme tomorrow night about Reform UK.

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:11

placemats · 18/10/2026 00:06

Start your own thread then about it.

A reminder to watch the ITV programme tomorrow night about Reform UK.

No wonโ€™t be watching ITV tomorow night will be washing my hair. Start my own thread about what? Just because we agree to disagree? Ah no debate useless we agree with you? Ok then! Have you actually read my posts?

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:12

placemats · 18/10/2026 00:06

Start your own thread then about it.

A reminder to watch the ITV programme tomorrow night about Reform UK.

They've already got their own 'we hate labour' thread

LittleBowSheep · 18/10/2026 00:18

Worrall20 · 17/10/2026 23:55

Yet you are quick to point the wagging finger at another political party? When the Labour Party is far worse? This is a SM posting and as much as you like to think you can dictate what people think of the post you cannot. Yes you can say what you like about Reform, I am not bothered, but the hypocrisy really is doing you no favours.

Which wagging finger is that? I have addressed one of your posts on this thread. I haven't pointed the finger at anyone, but you have. There can be no hypocrisy when I have made no accusations.

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:22

Worrall20 · 17/10/2026 22:23

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LABOUR 25 PLUS 54 TOTAL 79

  1. Labour Councillor & School Governor for child welfare Brian Gate. โ€“ _http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/9976455.Councillor_for_children_quits_after_child_porn_arrest/?ref=mr_
  2. Labour Lord Mayor School teacher and Nursery School Governor Graham Pearson arrested for possession of child rape images. โ€“ _http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/2118985.exmayors_child_porn_shame/_
  1. Labour Councillor candidate & School Governor Richard Harris. โ€“ http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/โ€ฆ
  1. Labour Councillor & School teacher Ben Williams making 10 child porn images. โ€“ http://www.liverpoolecho.co.ukโ€ฆ
  1. Labour Party Councillor Candidate & School Governor Paul Diggert. โ€“ http://www.manchestereveningneโ€ฆ
  1. Labour Councillor and teacher at Cambridge House Boys Home in Rochdale Cyril Smith. ( before he joined Liberals he was Labour councillor ). โ€“ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-eโ€ฆ
  1. Labour Party organizer to Lord Mayor School teacher helper & Scout Leader Timothy Edmeades child rapist. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/newโ€ฆ
  1. Labour Councillor & School Governor John Friary guilty of grooming a child for sex. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/newโ€ฆ
  1. Labour Party Councillor & School Governor Keith Rogers making 2,000 child rape images. โ€“ http://www.worcesternews.co.ukโ€ฆ
  1. Alec Dyer Atkins Labour Councillor & School Governor 2yrs for 42,000 images of child abuse. โ€“ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2โ€ฆ

  2. Adrian Circet Labour Councillor & School Governor 3yr community order for child porn. โ€“ http://www.kentonline.co.uk/keโ€ฆ

  3. Steve Carnell Labour Councillor & School Governor found guilty of child porn. โ€“ http://www.walesonline.co.uk/nโ€ฆ

  4. Greg Vincent Labour Councillor & School Governor guilty of child pornography. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debโ€ฆ

  5. Nelson Bland Labour Councillor & School Teacher guilty of making child porn images. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engโ€ฆ

  6. Keith Potts Labour Party Councillor & School Governor guilty of Making Child porn images. โ€“ http://newportcity.blogspot.coโ€ฆ

  7. Labour Party Councillor John Johnson child porn. โ€“ http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/ex-deputy-mayor-in-court-on-porn-charge-1-4253975

  8. Labour MP Candidate Manish Sood offering school children money for sex. โ€“ http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Teen-girls-pestered-sex-Leicester-politician/story-15410365-detail/story.html#axzz2PC4mpTAl

  9. Labour Party Activist Mark Tann raping 2 little girls who knew the Blairโ€™s. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2669865.stm

  10. Labour Party Adviser to Hazel Blears, Peter Tuffley. Kidnapped a child for sex. โ€“ http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/labour-high-flyer-kissed-boy-1042545

  11. Mark Trotter Labour Activist for Two Labour Councilโ€™s Liverpool and Hackney raping kids with AIDS. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/45312.stm

  12. Labour Councillor Candidate Ian Rankin Guilty of making horrific child porn movies. โ€“ http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-119089999.html

  13. Labour Adviser Tim Russo convicted paedophile child abuser. โ€“ http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/content/articles/2009/01/07/east_midlands_immigration_s15_w1_feature.shtml

  14. Phillip Lyon, Aid to Tony Bair making child pornography. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/3164581.stm

  15. Labour Council Leader Willie Smith arrested over a child pornography issue. โ€“ http://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/top-stories/no-show-councillor-says-i-quit-1-754934

  16. Labour Party Spin Doctor Samuel Gamlin making child pornography. โ€“ http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ex-labour-mans-indecent-photos-haul-1374030

  17. Labour representative for London mayor Ken Livingston on the GLA Yusef Azad arrested on child porn charges. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2658067.stm

  18. Labour Councillor & School teacher Darren Pedley arrested by police on child porn charges. โ€“ http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/ex-school-governor-and-councillor-denies-charges-679999

  19. Susan Smith Labour Councillor Lambeth London 18 months in prison for raping a minor in her transvestite lovers flat. โ€“ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/councillor-and-transvestite-lover-jailed-1552839.html

  20. Sam Chaudhry Labour Lord Mayor sent to prison for multiple molestation on children as young as 5 yrs old. โ€“ http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/lifestyle/lifestyle/2001/12/05/Local+London+Archive/6383411.Guilty_of_sex_abuse/

  21. Nicholas Green Labour Lord Mayor 10 yrs prison for rape and molestation of 3 children aged 6 to 10 yrs old. โ€“ http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/archive/1998/12/31/Lancashire+Archive/6136731.The_BEN_review_of_1998/

  22. Alan Prescott Labour Councillor & Senior Magistrate 2 yrs prison for molesting children in care. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2206268.stm

  23. Gilbert Benn Labour Councillor 5yrs prison for molesting an 11yr old boy. โ€“ http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/environment/five-years-for-paedophile-ex-councillor-1-119214

  24. Iestyn Tudor Davies Labour Councillor 7yrs prison for raping a 9yr old girl in South Wales. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1141519.stm

  25. Les Sheppard Labour Councillor 10yrs for molesting three young girls in County Durham. โ€“ http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/archive/2005/01/24/The+North+East+Archive6964019.Wife_s_anguish_at_sex_attacks_on_girls/

  26. Martyn Locklin Labour Councillor 12 yrs prison for 8 counts of rape and sex assaults on 3 young boys. โ€“ http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/archive/2001/07/04/The+North+East+Archive7105351.15_years_prison_for_sex_shame_politician/

  27. David Spooner Labour Councillor 12 months prison for indecency in front of Two children. โ€“ http://www.lgcplus.com/lgc-news/jail-sentence-for-spooner/1438647.article

  28. Neil Redrup Labour Councillor 4 months for using a spy camera to film a child on his toilet. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6284812.stm

  29. Mark Burton Labour Councillor Molesting a girl and child abuse images on his computer. โ€“ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-17143428

  30. Liam Temple Labour Lord Mayor guilty of inciting a child into gross indecency for money. โ€“ http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/chester-news/local-chester-news/2005/04/14/ex-mayor-guilty-of-sex-offence-59067-15400885/p

  31. Stewart Brown Labour Lord Mayor guilty of distributing sickening images of child abuse. โ€“ http://www.hebdenbridgetimes.co.uk/news/local/child-porn-charges-ex-mayor-disgraced-1-1814402

  32. Toren Smith Labour Party Councillor Guilty of over 90,000 images of children being abused. โ€“ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10174999

  33. Joseph Shaw Labour Councillor child abuse images. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8003338.stm

  34. Johnathan Phillips Labour Councillor found guilty of child porn on his memory stick. โ€“ http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2008/10/04/councillor-quits-after-porn-arrest/

  35. Lee Benson Labour Party Councillor found guilty of Child pornography images. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4257867.stm

  36. Labour County Councillor Raymond Coates child abuser. โ€“ http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/784887.Sex_predator_gets_14_years/?ref=ar

  37. Labour Party Parish Councillor Graham White guilty filming a child doing sick acts. โ€“ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/3840641.stm

  38. Labour Lord Mayor John Murray sexual assault on a 13 yr old girl. โ€“ http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/ex-mayor-of-cork-found-guilty-of-sexually-assaulting-teenager-1.1604549

  39. Labour Party Council nominee Michael Tombs School Governor child porn & Grooming. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199920/Parents-fury-laughable-sentence-social-worker-downloaded-child-porn.html

  40. Homosexual Labour party chairman of Stanley Town council Peter McLaughlin, admitted raping a schoolboy. โ€“ http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/carlisle-peter-mclaughlin-coach-driver-sex-abuse-boy-1.1172740

  41. Homosexual Labour Party Councillor in Dagenham, London Terry Power arrested and charged with raping homeless children.

  42. Labour Councillor & Head teacher for Skelmersdale/West Lancashire district council Malcolm Fordgets 15 years prison for child rape. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/jailed-former-headteacher-who-raped-697008

  43. Labour party paedophile election agent Andrew Palmer โ€“ http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/latest-news/exclusive-ex-peterborough-labour-party-agent-jailed-for-sex-crimes-1-6588155

  44. Marxist Bury Labour Party councillor Simon Carter charged with 16 counts of making rape images of children. โ€“ http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/bury-labour-councillor-appears-court-9498824

  45. Ex- Labour party councillor Jonathan Burns arrested for molesting a child. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144479/Former-Labour-councillor-hanged-arrested-claims-sexually-assaulted-young-girl.html

  46. Thurrock Labour councillor Terry Brookes arrested on suspicion of possession of child porn. โ€“ http://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/13617025.Ex_Labour_councillor_Terry_Brookes_arrested_on_suspicion_of_possession_of_child_porn/

  47. Labour councillor Richard Smith faces prison after confessing to child pornogrophy offenses. โ€“ http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/13625663.Former_councillor_faces_prison_after_confessing_to_child_porn_offences/

  48. Manchester Labour Party councillor David Royle arrested on suspicion of child rape. โ€“ http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-councillor-david-royle-arrested-10060049

  49. Homosexual Labour party member and former chairman of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) Tom Oโ€™Carroll was sentenced to two years in jail in 1981 for โ€œconspiracy to corrupt public moralsโ€ after police had seized more than a quarter of a ton of child abuse images. Some showed pictures of a man raping a one-year-old boy. In 2006 he was sentenced to two and a half years in prison for distributing child rape images. The BBC reported: โ€˜Children, mainly boys and some as young as six, had been filmed and photographed being raped and tortured.โ€™

  50. LABOUR party councillor DAVID FAGAN was arrested and charged in September 2016 with possessing a hoard of child rape images. โ€“ http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/labour-councillor-david-fagan-suspended-8979221

  51. Hull Labour party councillor Steven Bayes has been charged with making and hoarding rape images of children. โ€“ http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-councillor-steven-bayes-charged-with-possessing-large-number-of-indecent-images-of-children/story-30297941-detail/story.html

  52. Drug dealing Labour party councillor Tom Neilson, 33 was caught with thousands of rape images of children some involving sex with animals. He was given a three-year community order with a requirement to undergo an internet sex offender programme and carry out 180 hours of unpaid work. โ€“ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4544858/Labour-councillor-Tom-Neilson-images-children-dealing-drug.html#ixzz4kukbGuvv

  53. Moray Labour party councillor Sean Morton, 35, faces four criminal charges including photographing and distributing rape images of children some with animals. โ€“ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/415195/shocked-labour-chiefs-found-out-rising-star-sean-morton-is-facing-child-sex-charges-after-we-told-them/

  54. Leeds Labour lord Mayor Neil Taggart was jailed for 32 months for downloading and distributing child pornogrophy. Images featured children being sexually abused by adults โ€“ including children under five being violently raped. Police also found 30 extreme images depicting sexual activity with animals. โ€“ http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2017-07-04/disgraced-former-lord-mayor-jailed-for-sex-offences/

  55. Dudley Labour councillor Derrick Hemingsley charged with taking pornographic pictures of a child. โ€“ https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2017/01/13/former-dudley-councillor-derrick-hemingsley-in-court-over-child-images-charge/

  56. UNISON branch secretary & Exeter Labour City councillor Roger Spackman, 47, was arrested at a home address in Newtown for making pornographic photographs of children. โ€“ https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/former-exeter-city-councillor-centre-851171

  57. Labour Party shadow minister Eric Joyce was ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register after admitting to making a sex movie with a one-year-old child. โ€“ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53320424

  58. Deputy leader of Labour Walsall council & prospective mayoral candidate, Sean Coughlan set up a secret Facebook page called โ€œOur Private Placeโ€ where he sent pictures of his penis and encouraged a child to engage in penetrative sex. โ€“ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53320424www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/shamed-ex-walsall-council-leader-23417785

  59. Sunderland Labour councillor Thomas Wright jailed for 15 years for sex attacks on children โ€“ https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/prolific-paedophile-former-sunderland-councillor-17834736

  60. Sunderland Labour councillor Paul Middleton had explicit online sex chat with who he thought was a child. โ€“ https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/disgraced-ex-sunderland-councillor-spared-jail-online-grooming-girl-161617

  61. Labour Councillor Craig Edward charged with โ€˜possessing indecent images of childrenโ€™ after police raid. โ€“ https://www.dumbartonreporter.co.uk/news/22954961.councillor-craig-edward-charged-possessing-indecent-images-children-police-raid/

  62. Labour peer Nazir Ahmed of Rotherham was jailed for five and a half years for sexually abusing two white British children โ€“ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60260113

  63. Labour member of parliament Paul Clark pleaded guilty to possessing pornographic images and six counts of distributing pornographic images of children. โ€“ https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/former-gillingham-mp-paul-clark-guilty-of-having-child-sex-abuse-images/ar-AA14P26P?cvid=ea90ee92886e4f5d8f533d3fc3325cfb#image=2

  64. Muslim Labour councillor Abdul-Majid Rahman wasjailed for more than three years for sharing images of children being raped and having a stash of 100โ€™s of sex abuse videos on his iPhone and laptop. โ€“ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10874571/Ex-Labour-councillor-jailed-3-years-sharing-child-sex-abuse-videos.html

  65. Stourport Labour councillor and leader of Wyre Forest District Council James Shaw was sentenced to six months in prison for making pornographic photographs of a child. โ€“ https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/18035771.wyre-forest-council-ex-leader-james-shaw-made-indecent-photos-child/

  66. Lancaster city Labour councillor John Robert Reynolds was arrested outside a Carlisle hotel as he attempted to meet a young male child following extreme sexual online conversations. He received a 12 month suspended sentence and was put on the Sex Offender Register for a decade. โ€“ https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23416300.police-arrest-man-outside-carlisle-hotel-tried-meet-14-year-old/

  67. Hackney Labour councillor Tom Dewey was charged with making extreme homosexual pornographic images of children. โ€“ https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/hackney-labour-councillor-uxbridge-children-images-court-thomas-dewey-b1095138.html

  68. Paul Tweed Merseyside Labour Mayor and councillor found guilty of being in possession of some of the most extreme type of child rape images imaginable. They included many rated as category A, with children as young as five years old, possibly younger and pictures depicting sex with live and dead animals. โ€“ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31603499/paedo-child-abuse-images-avoided-jail-huw-edwards/

And just before I go to bed - I randomly clicked on a link around the middle of this AI slop

It was an article from 2004!

How on earth is this relevant???

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:26

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:12

They've already got their own 'we hate labour' thread

Who is they?

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:27

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:22

And just before I go to bed - I randomly clicked on a link around the middle of this AI slop

It was an article from 2004!

How on earth is this relevant???

Some from 2022?

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:29

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:22

And just before I go to bed - I randomly clicked on a link around the middle of this AI slop

It was an article from 2004!

How on earth is this relevant???

AI slop? About child abusers? I would say disgusting really.

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:34

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 00:22

And just before I go to bed - I randomly clicked on a link around the middle of this AI slop

It was an article from 2004!

How on earth is this relevant???

Also 2024?

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 00:50

LittleBowSheep · 18/10/2026 00:18

Which wagging finger is that? I have addressed one of your posts on this thread. I haven't pointed the finger at anyone, but you have. There can be no hypocrisy when I have made no accusations.

Well yes you have you have accused me of whataboutery? So yes you have made accusations and you have pointed the finger. Unfortunately this is a SMForum and you are allowed to discuss what ever you want. My valid point is that all political parties should be held to the same standard. Unless you think only the Labour Party is exempt?

Mmhmmn · 18/10/2026 00:59

Glad to see this - thanks for posting it ๐Ÿ™Œ mainstream news should be reporting on that

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:31

Doesn't matter what our racist, misogynist deraillers say on this thread, this time tomorrow, Reform will have lost a shit load of potential voters due to their hate.

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 01:41

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:31

Doesn't matter what our racist, misogynist deraillers say on this thread, this time tomorrow, Reform will have lost a shit load of potential voters due to their hate.

Hope you are not saying I am racist? So it it derailing a thread to call child abuse? Or does that not matter? Anything abhorrent racist, child abuse sex and physical should be called out regardless.

Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 01:46

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:31

Doesn't matter what our racist, misogynist deraillers say on this thread, this time tomorrow, Reform will have lost a shit load of potential voters due to their hate.

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/news/news/investigation-antisemitism-labour-party-finds-unlawful-acts-discrimination-and-harassment

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:53

Male abuse of women and children is being called out on this thread.

It is also being minimised. The thread is being flooded by deraillers and apologists for the hate in Reform UK, who want us to talk about something, anything other than the party's very obvious problem with misogynist, racist, violent men.

Tamarindo95 · 18/10/2026 05:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:53

Male abuse of women and children is being called out on this thread.

It is also being minimised. The thread is being flooded by deraillers and apologists for the hate in Reform UK, who want us to talk about something, anything other than the party's very obvious problem with misogynist, racist, violent men.

Except the gross sexual abuse of women and rape of children the Labour party has tried to sweep under the rug and its supporters pretend to ignore or seek to minimise. That's not to be talked about apparently. Two-tier abuse?

Efacsen · 18/10/2026 07:31

Lovely people

More from the ITV filming

Reform candidate filmed saying asylum seekers should be put in โ€˜concentration campsโ€™

Reform candidate filmed saying asylum seekers should be put in โ€˜concentration campsโ€™ | Reform UK | The Guardian

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Worrall20 · 18/10/2026 07:36

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2026 01:53

Male abuse of women and children is being called out on this thread.

It is also being minimised. The thread is being flooded by deraillers and apologists for the hate in Reform UK, who want us to talk about something, anything other than the party's very obvious problem with misogynist, racist, violent men.

Male abuse of woman and children is being called out, but it is being minimised? How on earth have you come to that conclusion?

Who are these apologists for Reform U.K.? Is there only a problem with misogynist, racist violent men who are in Reform?

The obvious misogynistic, racist, child sex abusers, physical abusive males are to be found in all political parties, The Labour Party being more prevalent. So, we should be calling it all out and not be dictated to by which ever political party they belong to.

Unless you believe certain parties are exempt?

Tamarindo95 · 18/10/2026 07:48

This is clearly a case of Projection on the part of the Labour supporters. For those who don't know what that means, Projection is a psychological defence mechanism where a person attributes their own unacknowledged traits, feelings, or behaviours onto someone else, attempting to deflect attention away from their own shortcomings by perceiving or labelling that exact trait in another person.

Like I said, two-tier abuse.

Tamarindo95 · 18/10/2026 08:09

And given the horrific, widespread, systematic gang rape of children that Labour and their supporters have attempted to ignore, cover up, and minimise for decades, accusing some bad apples within Reform of a bit of misogynistic behaviour is a bit like having a go at your next door neighbour for smoking a cigarette outside their own house during a hot and dry spell (a fire risk), when you've been lighting a large bonfire in your own back garden every evening for weeks now, and the bonfire you just lit has set light to your other neighbours house which is currently being burned to the ground.

But I am a Restore supporter, not a Reform fan, so I have no dog in this fight. Just pointing out the exceptional levels of cognitive dissonance being presented, that's all.

EEexpat · 18/10/2026 08:27

@pointythings

All parties have been connected to scandal at some point in time. Just happens to be that the current focus is on Reform.

I would say that is due to Reform being higher in the polls than what the main parties like. Trying to dig up what someone did at school almost 50 years ago is real barrel scrapping.

More specifically on MN, the approach (or wishful thinking) seems to be that if Reform is discredited in any way it proves that the outcome of the 2016 referendum will be annulled and the EU has an obligation to write to the UK and say:

โ€œFurther to the comments made on MN and the result of the 2016 referendum being annulled by UK law (Reference Number to be added to remain supporters because I canโ€™t find such a law), we hereby confirm that all events from 23 June 2016 are erased from existence.
^^
Hence, the UK remains a member of the EU just like they were on 22 June 2016.โ€

SubstandardMotelsOnTheLa · 18/10/2026 09:20

EEexpat · 18/10/2026 08:27

@pointythings

All parties have been connected to scandal at some point in time. Just happens to be that the current focus is on Reform.

I would say that is due to Reform being higher in the polls than what the main parties like. Trying to dig up what someone did at school almost 50 years ago is real barrel scrapping.

More specifically on MN, the approach (or wishful thinking) seems to be that if Reform is discredited in any way it proves that the outcome of the 2016 referendum will be annulled and the EU has an obligation to write to the UK and say:

โ€œFurther to the comments made on MN and the result of the 2016 referendum being annulled by UK law (Reference Number to be added to remain supporters because I canโ€™t find such a law), we hereby confirm that all events from 23 June 2016 are erased from existence.
^^
Hence, the UK remains a member of the EU just like they were on 22 June 2016.โ€

You have just scraped a hole through the bottom of the barrel.

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 09:59

Reform discredits themselves by having a load of racist and sexist members and defending that by saying other parties have some too.

Restore is openly racist and do not make exuses for it.

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SubstandardMotelsOnTheLa · 18/10/2026 10:22

Tamarindo95 · 18/10/2026 08:09

And given the horrific, widespread, systematic gang rape of children that Labour and their supporters have attempted to ignore, cover up, and minimise for decades, accusing some bad apples within Reform of a bit of misogynistic behaviour is a bit like having a go at your next door neighbour for smoking a cigarette outside their own house during a hot and dry spell (a fire risk), when you've been lighting a large bonfire in your own back garden every evening for weeks now, and the bonfire you just lit has set light to your other neighbours house which is currently being burned to the ground.

But I am a Restore supporter, not a Reform fan, so I have no dog in this fight. Just pointing out the exceptional levels of cognitive dissonance being presented, that's all.

You have told us twice now you support Restore. It is almost as though you expect people to be shocked.

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