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Doctors & diazepam

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EmeraldRoulette · 28/04/2026 16:35

Hi
I suppose I'm addressing the people who know me well from this board

I have a horrendous amount of dental work coming up and it's made me really anxious

I asked the doctor if I could have some diazepam for a week or so to help out with it

Of course the answer was no

I don't know how anyone is getting diazepam out of the doctor any more. I've had other people talk to me about this IRL and they've all said it was impossible to get -including someone who suffered three bereavements in a year.

And I think she felt forced into saying it, but the doctor did say that there are so many legal issues attached to it now, no one wants to take responsibility for prescribing it

I don't understand how we got to this point

Anyway, she pulled out the usual crap that doctors have to say, you know about CBT and long-term medication, blah blah blahI understand they have legal obligations to say it

But talking to me like I don't have decades of experience of meds is kind of nuts. I actually had to say to her "please may I speak, Dr".

And at the end of her nonsensical information spiel, I said to her "what do you think patients do when they can't get some diazepam?" (I think in many cases the answer is drink alcohol or abuse other drugs)

And she talked a lot about holistic well-being and blah blah

And I said to her "goodness, aren't you the optimist"

And she said "well I have to be optimistic, I'm not going to tell you that it's hopeless am I?"

Or words for that effect.

I appreciate I'm not in a great mental space right now so it's not normally amusing to me, but I had to find some amusement somewhere. It felt like a strange achievement to have a doctor actually say "no one wants to take the responsibility legally". She could've saved 15 minutes and just said that in the first place.

but honestly, all this distress to me and I suspect to her - just because they won't subscribe short term benzos any more

I'm just posting this because some of you will know what I

How much of the mental health crisis is due to the classic useful pills being unavailable I wonder.

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Yuasa · 01/05/2026 07:43

Coffeecakeandspice · 30/04/2026 12:18

They'll just take them onboard a bit drunk instead than, which probably inebriates them more than a 2mg taking the edge off, to allow somebody to function like a none scared passenger. If this is the case maybe they shouldn't serve alcohol on planes than, or in airports.
I also doubt a nervous wreck will be much use in an emergency anyhow!

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Yes - I just drink now. Which has a much greater effect on me than taking what was never a high dose of diazepam. If response times were a genuine concern, I think we’d see airlines limiting passengers’ consumption. They don’t, and the budget airlines actually incentivise buying more alcohol. In fact, on an Air France flight a few years ago I told cabin crew I was anxious and they fetched me a cognac in response!

But it is the reason I was given.

EmeraldRoulette · 30/04/2026 13:31

I drink occasionally

Drank a fair bit - for me - in lockdown but that wasn't a lot.

I can't have more than two units of an evening or I feel weird the next day

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VividDeer · 30/04/2026 13:18

Dont use alcohol. If you dont normally drink it might make you feel a lot worse.

EmeraldRoulette · 30/04/2026 13:15

Dentist has now rode back and won't do sedation

right after I found someone to take me home after the procedure as well.

Who is it that is suing them that it's so problematic for them to do this?

There must be more to it. It's very strange.

i'm not really a drinker. How much do I have to drink after the procedure in order to wipe it from my memory? I genuinely don't know. Perhaps six units will do over the course of an evening? as I'm not really a drinker?

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Coffeecakeandspice · 30/04/2026 12:18

Doctor1988 · 30/04/2026 10:38

Airlines don’t like passengers taking medication like benzos that delay reaction time. In the case of an emergency they need everyone fully ready to move.

They'll just take them onboard a bit drunk instead than, which probably inebriates them more than a 2mg taking the edge off, to allow somebody to function like a none scared passenger. If this is the case maybe they shouldn't serve alcohol on planes than, or in airports.
I also doubt a nervous wreck will be much use in an emergency anyhow!

Coffeecakeandspice · 30/04/2026 12:16

I am not surprised, they wouldn't even give me it after a death, received huge condescending lecture like I was some sort of drug addict; gp had me in tears. Talk about kicking somebody when they're down, I couldn't eat or sleep but apparently that didn't matter. I only asked for 2 days worth. I spoke to a second gp who gave me 4 tablets, they did nothing really, 2mg tablets, needed the 5 so doubled 2 up.
I would ask for sedation instead op from your dentist, you will need somebody with you to take you home, but it’s well worth it.

AxelRex · 30/04/2026 12:07

It think it’s sort of an overcorrection because a lot of GPs used to throw them at you very carelessly.
In my early 20s my GP very breezily asked me if I wanted them because he saw that I was already on psychiatric meds prescribed by a psychiatrist. I didn’t ask for them. My psychiatrist had no clue and would have hit the roof if she did.
They were only yellows but they were on a repeat prescription and they automatically renewed it.
The funny thing is I had been trying to avoid them. I got addicted in my early teens. The source? My mother had a drawerful of Valium and Xanax the same GP had given on a repeat prescription and forgotten all about.
Eventually I weaned myself off and asked the doctor to remove it from the prescription and never give it to me again. He laughed.

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 11:35

Paddingtonridesagain · 30/04/2026 11:31

I really do not understand the NHS viewpoint that you cannot be prescribed short term medication for a one off event, such as an invasive medical procedure, but you can be prescribed long term medication instead.

I do not go to the dentist as cannot cope with it. I had to have a general anaesthetic (and wait six months) for an endoscopy as I could not tolerate it. Is diazepam worse than GA?

Talking therapies, long walks, talking to friends does not stop panic attacks.

It’s because these are serious medications and there’s little to no way to monitor you when you’re on them if they’re “short term”

Paddingtonridesagain · 30/04/2026 11:31

I really do not understand the NHS viewpoint that you cannot be prescribed short term medication for a one off event, such as an invasive medical procedure, but you can be prescribed long term medication instead.

I do not go to the dentist as cannot cope with it. I had to have a general anaesthetic (and wait six months) for an endoscopy as I could not tolerate it. Is diazepam worse than GA?

Talking therapies, long walks, talking to friends does not stop panic attacks.

Doctor1988 · 30/04/2026 10:38

Yuasa · 29/04/2026 13:28

Get help and stop using addictive drugs to cope.

I used to take it for fear of flying, as did many. Taking a couple of 2 mg tablets per flight a few times a year is not going to lead to an addiction. When it started getting difficult to get, the reason the GP gave for prescribing ever more pointless diseases was the concern I’d be stupified in the case of an emergency (risible in
my case!), not addiction risks.

I get it, op. I remember a thread on the topic years ago where someone’s gp had commented that all the effective drugs were being withheld now. It’s the same story with a lot of pain medication. I understand these drugs can cause problems which mean guidance has changed, but it’s cold comfort to those of us who benefitted from them without any ill effects.

Airlines don’t like passengers taking medication like benzos that delay reaction time. In the case of an emergency they need everyone fully ready to move.

Doctor1988 · 30/04/2026 10:37

EmeraldRoulette · 28/04/2026 17:50

@maftaz the dentist can prescribe something for the procedure

Nothing before, nothing after

That's totally fair. I think anything outside of the procedure is the responsibility of the GP.

@Paquitavariation i'm glad you got it 💐

If the dentist thinks you need medication to prepare you for their procedure (eg the diazepam it they think thay would be helpful) they are perfectly able to prescribe it.

GPs are not meant to prescribe for dental issues, which this is.

ScaredAndPanicky · 30/04/2026 00:33

I am prescribed diazepam when I am under the crisis mental health team. But they don't like me to be on it for more than a couple of months at a time.

KurtCobainLover · 29/04/2026 13:38

I get diazepam on prescription from the Community Mental Health Team as an emergency medication. One strip normally lasts three months as I don't take it very often. My GP will also prescribe if I'm struggling with sleep which can be triggering for my bipolar.

tilyougetenough · 29/04/2026 13:31

Diazepam is a serious medication and it can have really serious side effects. Where I live you can only be prescribed it as a pre-med if you’ve been reviewed in a high risk clinic.

If it’s making you that anxious, ask to be prescribed to your local hospital and be treated either under sedation or general anaesthetic?

Yuasa · 29/04/2026 13:28

Get help and stop using addictive drugs to cope.

I used to take it for fear of flying, as did many. Taking a couple of 2 mg tablets per flight a few times a year is not going to lead to an addiction. When it started getting difficult to get, the reason the GP gave for prescribing ever more pointless diseases was the concern I’d be stupified in the case of an emergency (risible in
my case!), not addiction risks.

I get it, op. I remember a thread on the topic years ago where someone’s gp had commented that all the effective drugs were being withheld now. It’s the same story with a lot of pain medication. I understand these drugs can cause problems which mean guidance has changed, but it’s cold comfort to those of us who benefitted from them without any ill effects.

VividDeer · 29/04/2026 11:10

Same with my gp, although they will give me buckets of codeine and push it onto me frequently

My dentist prescribed diazepam 10mg. Her first offer was lower and I had to negotiate. I had just had a panic attack for the hygienist so they relented.

BillieWiper · 29/04/2026 11:07

My private dentist was pretty generous. He gave about 14 x 10mg tablets. But I did have like 13-14 major composites that needed doing and I was pretty terrified. So that was for several appointments.

I would hope dentist is more likely than GP to give it.

My GP only ever gives like maybe 4 x 5mg if I'm lucky. That's when I'm having a full on panic attack. In fact he's left now so the new one might be even tighter. But I have only ever asked about 5 times in my life.

The sad thing is the more you ask, the less you get.

BobbySheenSomethingNewToDoNsoul · 29/04/2026 11:01

I got a prescription for it from my dentist ..one solitary 2mg pill.

EmeraldRoulette · 29/04/2026 10:57

BluebelllsRosesDaffodills · 29/04/2026 10:45

This poster clearly doesn’t understand what is like to have years of therapy that doesn’t work (at a huge expense), be prescribed SSRIs that have frankly scary side effects and no, exercise and a ‘hot bath’ won’t cut it.

Ignore them.

Yeah, and it's so nice to be free of the crap

I did think long and hard before contacting the doctor because I just did not want to go down that road

Hopefully, they won't do any kind of follow-up

I definitely wouldn't go abroad. It's not that important. Maybe some people feel I posted here out of desperation. I didn't. I just wanted to rant. When I started having this problem, I used to feel much better after speaking to the doctor. Even just a conversation with the doctor would be helpful. Now I think it's probably quite normal to feel worse.

i'm well aware that nobody knows what to do with somebody who is experiencing that kind of "can't stay in your skin"anxiety, and the social support I have is quite superficial, so I can't talk to anyone about it in real life.

Everyone on this board was absolutely brilliant with my mental health over the years so I thought I'd post here. I really appreciate the support.

One thing that came out in the work conversation, that I didn't contribute to, was that people really do feel desperate and they will fall down a lot of horrible paths to get hold of this medication. As one former colleague said "I feel as if I started out NOT being an addict, but because I wasn't allowed to keep a couple in the cupboard for emergencies, I became one".

She ended up having to take antipsychotics just to get to work every day but like me, she is off everything now. I think a lot of people hit a point where they just don't want to engage

That might be part of the strategy. They do just want you to go away. I would understand if I was taking up a lot of their time, but I've never been to this surgery and I joined in 2023.

and she could've just said no and spared me 15 minutes of gaslighting.

Thank you again for the support.

I'm drawing a line under this now - for today anyway. I realise a lot of people might want to discuss this problem but do be careful what you post everyone. I've seen posts about this being deleted before.

Much love to all x

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BluebelllsRosesDaffodills · 29/04/2026 10:46

OP, I know you said no to street ones, very sensible.

How about, going to a country with more lenient prescribing rules, and getting an emergency supply from a doctor abroad.

BluebelllsRosesDaffodills · 29/04/2026 10:45

Preppyprepper · 29/04/2026 09:30

Do you know this is an addictive medication? It's also prescription only, so a GP has to agree to it.

It's like saying: 'I can't believe the GP won't just give me a bottle of morphine just because I fancy it.' saying 'well I'll just use alcohol or other drugs then' doesn't strengthen your case.

Get help and stop using addictive drugs to cope.

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This poster clearly doesn’t understand what is like to have years of therapy that doesn’t work (at a huge expense), be prescribed SSRIs that have frankly scary side effects and no, exercise and a ‘hot bath’ won’t cut it.

Ignore them.

EmeraldRoulette · 29/04/2026 10:26

@Preppyprepper i'm going to assume you're just a troublemaker and don't know my background

Many of the lovely people here do know my background

But I won't engage further as I suspect you're just here to cause trouble.

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Preppyprepper · 29/04/2026 09:30

Do you know this is an addictive medication? It's also prescription only, so a GP has to agree to it.

It's like saying: 'I can't believe the GP won't just give me a bottle of morphine just because I fancy it.' saying 'well I'll just use alcohol or other drugs then' doesn't strengthen your case.

Get help and stop using addictive drugs to cope.

EmeraldRoulette · 29/04/2026 09:28

@MillyMollyMiley you are absolutely right - people will just look for alternatives or dodgy suppliers

I'm feeling a bit better this morning. It's amazing how speaking to your GP can make you feel 100 times worse when it's a mental health issue.

I don't even actually think that there is an issue! If they were willing to prescribe a seven of these, it would be job done

I have listened back to the call twice - because sometimes I can't quite compute the level of gaslighting that you get out of an NHS GP. It is absolutely full of nonsense about nice walks, time with friends, CBT, SSRI and how they work (like she thinks I don't know) and I didn't say this to you guys yesterday but I did actually agree to a prescription of SSRI.

I don't want to go back on them, and of course they make teeth grinding much worse

However, I did have the presence of mind to wheedle her around to one I've never tried before. There was method in my madness at the time I suggested it. I now can't quite remember what it was. I think it was the hope that it's faster acting and a bit more sedating and might not have teeth grinding issues.

So I suggested sertraline

I have had some times over the years where just one or two pills have made me feel better. I've also had times where adjusting has been absolutely hellish so in reality I'm not going to try anything because I know what that experience is like coming on and off SSRIs

But from the way she was talking, I don't think she was allowed to just say "sorry we don't prescribe those anymore". At the end of the call she said "finally we have a plan" and I think she was probably relieved about that.

The fact that I burst into tears on the call probably didn't help

No one should have to think about how they handle a GP call.

Anyway, I haven't spoken to them throughout 2024 and 2025, so fingers crossed, I don't have to speak to them about anything mental health related again.

something else I find strange, she said to me "it sounds like you have good social support". until recently I didn't have any at all. I didn't mention anybody during the call. And all I wanted was some diazepam for dental anxiety. So how did social support even come up?

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MillyMollyMiley · 28/04/2026 18:04

I also tried to get a short term prescription for some recently to cover me during long haul travel which I was having major anxiety with. I thought it would be easy to get a small number of tablets as I had some last time I traveled long haul 10 years ago - nothing at all since then. I put my request in online and had a messsge from my doctor saying they don’t prescribe them for things like travel anymore. I was really surprised, given I don’t think I’ve had so much as an antibiotic in the past 10 years so I’m hardly abusing them.

The stupidity of it all is that I got a friend to enquire about getting me some black market ones, which she was easily able to do. I didn’t actually get any from her in the end, but I’d imagine a lot of people are buying them in similar ways and who knows what’s in them. Like you say, desperate people will find ways to self medicate and it does not seem sensible to have a flat out ban in these sorts of circumstances.