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How much longer do I have to feel like this?

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Depressedmum32 · 14/10/2004 10:29

Can some one give some advice please, I just recently gave birth to my 4th baby and for the rist month I felt fantastic and was flying round doing everything. Iwas so wired that one night I was cleaning my windows at 5am after feeding ds!!!Then I started to feel ill, like I had the flu, kept feelomg dizzy and this went on for couple of weeks before I collapsed with chest pain and was rushed to hospital. Was told I had a blood clot on my ling and spent the whole weekend feeling hysterical, had to stop breastfeeding as I was on blood thinners. Cried cos I missed my children so much and thought I was going to die. Then they told me I had no blood clot just pleurisy and sent me home. I first felt relieved to be home and with children but after a couple of days I started to have Panic attacks for no reason, I was just suddenly get this rush of fear and feel terrified. Then I started waking up in the night with my heart racing hystarical with fear, so eventually I was on;y getting 1 hours sleep a night. During the day I was sitting around thinking of all the things I could drop dead from and then 2 weeks ago I suddenly felt wierd, A sense of unreality which terrified me even more. Kept going to the docs where they diagnosed pnd and prescribed ad's. Referred to cpn but no appt till oct 26th. Refused to take the ad's as I was so scared of all the possible awful side effects and convinced myself I just needed to sleep.Dh took a few days off work and I did feel a bit better after getting some rest in the day, but sleep at night. non existant. When I did go to sleep, I kept having awful dreams and waking up. Hv came on monday and said I had to take the cipralex just to lift me enough to the things that would make me feel better.Started on 5mg as Isuffer from panic and immediately the panic became worse, so the second night could only get to sleep with the aid of sleeping tabs. I am now day 4 and I feel wrethched, nauseas and panicky, still feel dazed as though I am not really here and that frightens me. Didnt feel depressed until I started to feel wierd, its the wierdness the t depresses me, is this normal pnd? I just want to feel human again.

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Spacecadet · 17/10/2004 13:14

Thanks kkgirl have sent you an email, Hope you have better weather for your walk thean I did this morning agy! Got caught in torrential weather. You are soo right about the panic attacks, you have all this adrenaline coursing round your system with nowhere to go, my brain switches off in order to cope but the body isn,t tierd. I think The only way to beat this is to get out a bit more each day, and try and make my body tired too!! Have just been dancing round the living room like an idiot to sick and tired by Anastacia, couldnt have done that afew days ago.

agy · 17/10/2004 12:29

I'm getting us out for a walk to-day - def! Think its the panic attacks that make you tired - all that heart racing takes it out of you! Hope you feel better soon. Best to keep up a bit of exercise. You don't want to get weak physically.

kkgirl · 17/10/2004 11:16

Hi

Sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. I haven't got much personal experience, but have seen both my parents go through very severe breakdowns (leading to hospitalisation) so I know a bit about it.
If you want to email me, if I can be any help please do. I'm: [email protected]. Even though I haven't been through it maybe just explaining how you feel can help. I have had panic attacks in the past too.

I know from Mum and Dad, that simple tasks that you would take in your stride when you are well, become mountainous when you are ill.
Take care.

Spacecadet · 17/10/2004 11:06

Thank's for your encouraging words tootie. Hv actually not much cop unfortunately and when I asked to be put in touch with the local homestart group she refused saying they only helped people whose children could be at risk!!!! I know for a fact that is rubbish because I used to work in the mental health sector and we always put pnd mums in touch with homestart!! Any way seeing my gp tomorrow, will see what he says. Have just walked to the local shop to get a sunday paper, feel like I have climbed mount everest!!

tootie · 17/10/2004 10:35

Spacecadet, I don't have much experience of what you're going through, but I just wanted to post a big hello and a hug on here as it sounds like you really are having it had at the moment. Sorry if this has been suggested before but is your HV any good? Or the agency that helps young families - I think it's called homestart? I'm sorry your mum wasn't much help, I think they forget what it is like when you have a very young family, which is hard enough without all the awful feelings you're having.. I really hope you get some proper support soon, I'm thinking of you[[[[[]]]]]]]

Spacecadet · 17/10/2004 09:04

October, did you end up taking Cipralex? I think it is probably better for people who dont suffer frm quite such extreme anxiety as I do, therefore most people could probably cope with the panicky symptoms. I also think what didnt help was that I take thyroxine which makes the heart race and I have a fast heart rate anyway.naturally

Spacecadet · 17/10/2004 08:07

By the way if anyone who has psted on here would like to email me or chat occasionally on msn ( if I can get near pc as dd1 is usually hogging it!!)Then let me know, it would be nice to talk to people who have had the same experiences, and it would be nice sometimes to talk about other stuff as sometimes I feel that the more I think about it the worse I feel!!

Spacecadet · 17/10/2004 08:01

Had a bad night again, had to dope myself up on tranqs just to fall asleep, but woke up 2 hours later with my heart racing, admittdly not as bad as previous night. Tossed and turned all night and ended up getting up at 7 this morning. I have decided that Alot of the horrible spaced out feeling is acombination of the severe lack of sleep and I am going to try and get out for a walk today. Cant really expect to fall asleep if I am not using any energy, havent been out properly( tesco not inc) for weeks not really since I came home from the hospital after the blood clot scare. I used to walk every day. Got my 1st period after dd today wonder if this is a good sign as they took 7 months to come back after ds2 and until then I had like permenant pmt!! also my hormone levels were completely abnormal and gp said it contributed towards mild pnd I had after ds2. Will try and get out the house later, on foot, not in the car! I am going to the gp tomorrow.

October · 16/10/2004 23:56

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Spacecadet · 16/10/2004 19:26

Thanks for the advice mummytosteven Gp referred me to the cpn and my first appt is in just over a weeks time so not long now. I have heard that Cipralex can be awful to start with but I had a really bad reaction, developed a rash, racing heart and was panic stricken every 5 seconds, that coupled with the insommia I developed on it I kind of felt that the depression was preferable!!. I am still having the symptoms and can only really keep them at bay at the mo with the diazapam. Hopefully the symptons will have died down by the start of the week, fingers crossed.

MummyToSteven · 16/10/2004 16:25

sorry that your DH has to work on Sunday.

Could your GP refer you to a psychiatrist to talk about advisability of whether you should try any other medications? There are a few different types of ADs - Cipralex is one of the newer ones, and it might be that older ones might suit you a bit better. Cipralex does seem to be quite a difficult drug - the MNetters that have taken it do seem to have had an absolutely terrible time at the start. Whereas I have started no less than 4(!) ADs at different times of my life (none of them Cipralex) and not had any comparable experiences - maybe I have just been very lucky, or maybe Cipralex is particularly vicious at first.

take care

Spacecadet · 16/10/2004 16:22

Have changed my name to how I currently feel on the tranqs!!

Depressedmum32 · 16/10/2004 13:49

I really hoped that the ads would help but after my extreme reaction the gp says he is reluctant to try anything else

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Depressedmum32 · 16/10/2004 13:47

I wish I could but I only have one close friend and she works in the week and goes to stay with her bf at weekends while her ex husband has her boys. I feel so alone

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spook · 16/10/2004 13:22

You need people around you honey. Friends,family, anyone. Just to have a cup of tea with or do a jigsaw with the kids or take them to the park for half an hour for you. All the things that seem like impossible mountains to you right now are literally an hour or so of someones time. I'm sure if people knew how you were feeling they would be there like a shot. Just to break up your day.Can you think of anyone??XXX

Depressedmum32 · 16/10/2004 13:04

He cant because he is the only manager in on a sunday( he manages a garden centre)

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spook · 16/10/2004 12:40

DM32. You are very ill at the moment.Is there no way you could gently suggest to DH that he take the day off?Or is that not an option?

Depressedmum32 · 16/10/2004 12:18

Thankyou everyone for your messeges, I phoned the out of hours doc who has prescribed a stronger dose of diazapam, dh has gone to get it now. I have just over a week to till my appt with the cpn, Gp tried to bring it forward but failed.The doc I saw in a and e was useless, he didnt even know what the side effects of cipralex were. out of hours doc was nice he assured me that i am not going mad and I will feel better when the ads are out of my system, i just got to sit it out till then. Wish I hadnt taken the damn ads now. I hope they do leave my system and I havent gone permanantly mad!wish dh wasnt at work tomorrow.

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agy · 16/10/2004 10:52

Oh Depressedmum, I am so sorry things got so bad! The diazapan will take a day or two to build up in your system. Try to not let the racing heart frighten you. When I had panic attacks I thought it would stop(!) but I'm still here! Hope it all settles down soon. I still think walking could help, even at this point, so long as someone is with you.

MummyToSteven · 16/10/2004 10:26

sorry you had such a rough night last night {{{{hugs}}}}quite a few people on here seem to have had a rotten time starting Cipralex. Not all ADs are as bad as that - Seroxat is probably well worth a miss too - but I can understand you feeling very wary of any other meds.

just remember that you are unwell atm - in the sense of deserve as much right to rest and recuperation and assistance as if you had a broken leg/pneumonia, and try and get as much help from dh as you. stuff any housework etc - just make sure someone (hopefully DH) helps keep you and the kids clean dressed and fed. Everything else can wait. sorry to hear that your mum is being so unsupportive. Could your husband have a word. When mums are unsupportive over things like that, i do sometimes wonder if they might have had PND that wasn't picked up on, and if they might be almost jealous that there is help available for it today that they never had IYSWIM.

When are you next going to see the Doctors? Can they get your CPN appointment brought forward?

take care
x

spook · 16/10/2004 10:20

Oh depressedmum32 I am so so sorry. I was thinking of you last night too. I don't know anything about Diazepam I'm afraid but I suspect it will be the waiting game again for them to kick in. Please take care and use the help and support of DH today. {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}

Depressedmum32 · 16/10/2004 10:02

I need help, Last night I ended up in a and e because I had a dreadful reaction to the Cipralex and Have now been taken off it. The doctor said it will take about 3 days to leave my system so I will have the horrible effects until then. I feel as if I m in a trance from lack of sleep but I cant sl;eep because my heart keeps racing and I have apanic attack. Feel as if I have takken 10 steps back.Doctoer has put me on Diazapam to calm me down but it is having no effect.

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Depressedmum32 · 15/10/2004 21:42

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has replied to me on here, you don,t know how much your advice and sometimes just an acknowledgement means, thankyou please keep posting me as I feel so alone and wretched at the moment.

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Depressedmum32 · 15/10/2004 21:03

Had to go and pick ds1 up from a school disco and it was awful, felt really out of it, I feel so frightened, I really feel as If I am going out of my mind, don't know how much more of this I can take

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Depressedmum32 · 15/10/2004 18:32

If I get through this I will change my name from depressedmum32!!!

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