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AIBU? Male work colleague

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mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 20:00

I have quite severe anxiety, so I’m aware I can overthink situations, but I’ve worked myself into a real panic over this and would appreciate some honest outside opinions.

I’ve worked with a male colleague for around 18 months and we’re actually quite close mates now. We chat regularly, have lots of banter and sometimes flirty joking, but I don’t have romantic feelings for him. We talk about personal things and generally get on really well.

My company is going through potential redundancies at the moment, and on Friday I was having a real panic about my job. I kept bringing it up with him because I wanted reassurance, but he tried to change the subject a few times and eventually said something along the lines of “I don’t talk about this anymore” I could tell it was his usual cheeky personality as in a way to say to me that I’d already been told everything was fine.

We carried on chatting, and I again kept brining up my worries because I am genuinely anxious and he’s someone I consider a safe space at work and when I mentioned what his weekend plans are we basically said ‘don’t act like you’re now interested in me lol!’ and he wished me a nice weekend. Afterwards, I messaged jokingly asking if he was angry with me, but he read it and didn’t reply. He’s normally very responsive, so this has really worried me.

The thing is, earlier today he’d invited me for coffee because I’ll be working at an office near his, and we’d also spoken on the phone so I could give him some advice about an email he needed to send. So we were still having normal, friendly interactions.

My anxiety has now convinced me that he might report me to HR over Friday, that I’ve crossed a line and that our friendship is over. I know I probably went on too much about redundancy, but I was genuinely panicking and he’s someone I consider a friend. We speak and banter all the time.

Am I reading far too much into him not replying, or would you be concerned? Could someone genuinely go from being close mates with you to reporting you over a conversation like this?
Please be kind, as I’m really struggling with my anxiety over this, like I’m really hypersensitive this week as the redundancy consultation is coming to an end next week, I’ve got my 2nd therapy appointment tomorrow and I suffer with anxiety anyway, but I would appreciate honest opinions.

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mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:15

JeffLebowski · Yesterday 20:52

You're going through a tough time. Again. He's probably wondering why, despite the fact that you've got a husband, you're leaning on him so much for emotional support and reassurance. Again. And you're so focussed on your own concerns that you really don't seem to care that much about him other than the support you can provide to him and/or the imagined threat that he might report you to HR. It's all about you.

While you may be sure that his job is safe, it's possible that he's not so certain. Have you really sat down with him, asked him, and actually listened to him? Maybe you have but nothing you've written so far suggests that you have. Again, it's all about you, your job, how he views you, how his opinion of you might impact on you, and so on.

He's not your emotional support puppy. He's a human in his own right with his own fears, wants and dreams. It's not all about you.

He understands the company, it’s a huge company, but he gets who I’m talking about, he’s also far enough away from my team as someone I can talk to / mention too- as it’s still under wraps that my managers leaving in just 6 weeks I can’t tell anyone locally to me, so I reached out to a colleague that’s a mate.

He brought my baby bed of me for when him and his wife had their new baby, we are pretty close, he confides in me about his daughter and not sleeping, and we just genuinely talk- I’m naturally more chatty than him as a personality so it may seem ‘me me me’ but we talk an awful lot mutually.

our friendship is a close friendship at work- just because he is a male and I’m a female, doesn’t mean we can’t be friends / have similarities. I feel comfortable chatting to him about my worries, I won’t going forward- I’ve got the hint.

I guess I’m just worried he’ll report me for harassment lol, even though he’s the worst with banter, so if I was that sensitive I could take a lot more offence from him overall

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DoNotGoGorgeously · Yesterday 21:21

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:15

He understands the company, it’s a huge company, but he gets who I’m talking about, he’s also far enough away from my team as someone I can talk to / mention too- as it’s still under wraps that my managers leaving in just 6 weeks I can’t tell anyone locally to me, so I reached out to a colleague that’s a mate.

He brought my baby bed of me for when him and his wife had their new baby, we are pretty close, he confides in me about his daughter and not sleeping, and we just genuinely talk- I’m naturally more chatty than him as a personality so it may seem ‘me me me’ but we talk an awful lot mutually.

our friendship is a close friendship at work- just because he is a male and I’m a female, doesn’t mean we can’t be friends / have similarities. I feel comfortable chatting to him about my worries, I won’t going forward- I’ve got the hint.

I guess I’m just worried he’ll report me for harassment lol, even though he’s the worst with banter, so if I was that sensitive I could take a lot more offence from him overall

OP, none of that relates to @JeffLebowski ’s points. You’re responding to a conversation that’s going on only in your head, just as you are with your colleague. This is why someone who keeps spiralling anxiously can be so tiresome to be around — they simply aren’t paying any attention to the other person. You’re self-absorbed. Your friend has clearly asked you to stop talking at him about your fear of redundancy. You’re now using that as new material to spiral about.

Bababear987 · Yesterday 21:25

Jeeeez OP youre still on here spiralling about your spiral.
Its a job.
Get yourself on medication and stop this nonsense. I actually dont think this guy is your mate at all, I think hes a work colleague who you chat to and now youre unloading on him and its extremely excessive.

BreatheAndFocus · Yesterday 21:32

You annoyed him droning on and on. He ignored your text because he didn’t want to get drawn into a prolonged, draining conversation with you.

Think about that and change the way you interact with him. And no, he won’t report you to HR. That’s your anxiety making up crap basically.

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:32

Bababear987 · Yesterday 21:25

Jeeeez OP youre still on here spiralling about your spiral.
Its a job.
Get yourself on medication and stop this nonsense. I actually dont think this guy is your mate at all, I think hes a work colleague who you chat to and now youre unloading on him and its extremely excessive.

We speak like this all the time and have done for 18 months? It’s not always about me but this week is incredibly hard for me emotionally and I’ve leant on the friend who I always have a giggle with and sometimes have serious chats with. I’m just over thinking our conversation today and worried he will report me to HR, even though we’ve been close for nearly 2 years!

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JeffLebowski · Yesterday 21:37

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:15

He understands the company, it’s a huge company, but he gets who I’m talking about, he’s also far enough away from my team as someone I can talk to / mention too- as it’s still under wraps that my managers leaving in just 6 weeks I can’t tell anyone locally to me, so I reached out to a colleague that’s a mate.

He brought my baby bed of me for when him and his wife had their new baby, we are pretty close, he confides in me about his daughter and not sleeping, and we just genuinely talk- I’m naturally more chatty than him as a personality so it may seem ‘me me me’ but we talk an awful lot mutually.

our friendship is a close friendship at work- just because he is a male and I’m a female, doesn’t mean we can’t be friends / have similarities. I feel comfortable chatting to him about my worries, I won’t going forward- I’ve got the hint.

I guess I’m just worried he’ll report me for harassment lol, even though he’s the worst with banter, so if I was that sensitive I could take a lot more offence from him overall

I absolutely get that just because you're a woman and he's a man that it's fine for you to be friends. I'm a man. I'm privileged to have a number of fantastic women as friends, both in work and outside of work.

But those friendships are absolutely mutual and I'm always very careful to make sure that I'm not exploiting those friendships as an outlet to repeatedly drain out on them about the stresses I have in my life. I make sure I spend at least as much time listening to what's going on in their lives and supporting them with their troubles as I do talking about what's going on with me. I'm also very careful to realise that they have their own lives, their own fears, their own insecurities and their own worries that have nothing to do with me but that need to be accommodated and supported.

Re-read the post I'm responding to. Your first para is all about you. Your second para leads on what he's done for you and is mostly about how you lean on him. Your third para is about how you use him to drain out about your worries. And your forth para is primarily about your worries about the possible repercussions on you of how much you've leaned on him.

You see what I mean? The vast majority of what you've written about your relationship with this man is about the support he gives you and how his opinion on you may reflect on you. It's all about you. You're not seeing him as an independent human being, you're seeing him as a reflection of and/or reaction to you.

If I was his friend or line manager I'd be advising him to start distancing him from you because your fixation and reliance on him has crossed the line from mutual friendship to unhealthy dependence.

nomas · Yesterday 21:37

My anxiety has now convinced me that he might report me to HR over Friday, that I’ve crossed a line and that our friendship is over.

You have crossed a line of becoming very annoying to him.

Please be kind, as I’m really struggling with my anxiety over this, like I’m really hypersensitive this week

But you’re not being very kind to him, you’re doing his head in.

ChaChaChaChanges · Yesterday 21:38

Christ alive. Just stop it. You’re not even acknowledging the entirely valid points people are making. Fuck me, but you’re being self-centred.

nomas · Yesterday 21:39

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:32

We speak like this all the time and have done for 18 months? It’s not always about me but this week is incredibly hard for me emotionally and I’ve leant on the friend who I always have a giggle with and sometimes have serious chats with. I’m just over thinking our conversation today and worried he will report me to HR, even though we’ve been close for nearly 2 years!

Are you planning to stop harassing him? Because if not he should report to HR.

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 21:41

I wish you could report work colleagues for being boring… I’d be off to see HR with a list first thing Monday morning.

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 21:42

This friendship is very one sided and I’d be pissed off if I was him too.

Even on this thread you’re more concerned about him going to HR than you hurting his feelings/losing him as a friend.

You sound incredibly selfish and your ‘anxiety’ is not an excuse for this.

CrystalSingerFan · Yesterday 21:45

@mumlearningtorun

"and he invited me for coffee when he’s off in January"

This is the bit that mystified me. That's planning ahead...

Millytante · Yesterday 21:46

Don’t be telling yourself you have PTSD over anything fairly routine that has gone on at work (including your redundancy worry) unless you are a forensic pathologist in a war zone, or a police officer, for example.
Dial it back a long way, to a more rational assessment of the situation and instead of freaking yourself out, avoid at least part of that habit by avoiding wildly exaggerated terminology.

Bababear987 · Yesterday 21:47

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:32

We speak like this all the time and have done for 18 months? It’s not always about me but this week is incredibly hard for me emotionally and I’ve leant on the friend who I always have a giggle with and sometimes have serious chats with. I’m just over thinking our conversation today and worried he will report me to HR, even though we’ve been close for nearly 2 years!

He is a work colleague who you talk to, i don't see what about that makes you close. It sounds like you have a chat, a laugh and a moan at work.... I do with loads of my colleagues but I wouldnt call them friends nevermind close friends.

You are so self absorbed you aren't even reading or acknowledging what people are saying. I have anxiety and intrusive thoughts, so I get therapy and medicate myself because I dont want it to rule my life.

Leave this poor man alone and take some ownership over yourself. I actually think youre lucky hes not been more harsh with you, youre massively overstepping

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:54

nomas · Yesterday 21:39

Are you planning to stop harassing him? Because if not he should report to HR.

so you actually think I’m harassing him?

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Jc2001 · Yesterday 21:54

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 20:35

But you don’t think it’s a HR report worthy sackable offence?

I'm sorry, but even though about 10 people have told you he's extremely unlikely to report you to HR you keep asking the same thing over and over. With the greatest of respect I'm starting to see why he started to get annoyed with you.

OhBumBags · Yesterday 21:56

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:54

so you actually think I’m harassing him?

You know you’re harassing him.

MissingMeadow · Yesterday 21:57

You don't seem to be reading people's replies. You're only interested in repeating yourself. Please stop and calm down.

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:57

OhBumBags · Yesterday 21:56

You know you’re harassing him.

how do I know that? I just talk to him regularly as a friend, I don’t think I’m harassing him :(

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Ablondiebutagoody · Yesterday 21:58

I think that he just wants a bit of quiet time

nomas · Yesterday 22:10

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 21:54

so you actually think I’m harassing him?

Yes, If someone tells you to stop and you don’t stop, then it’s classed as harassment.

You need to find a new way of channeling your anxiety which doesn’t involve him.

It can be really overwhelming being someone’s constant confidante.

Why don’t you try using Chat GPT? It can respond to all your questions without ever getting tired.

Parkrunday · Yesterday 22:10

I suffer with anxiety and i know what it's like, especially with something like potetial redundancy hanging over you.
However, it is also extremely hard work for the people around you. The constant repeated questions, looking for reassurance. It can seem quite self centred.
You're overthinking this. He's not going to report you to HR. He's probably worried about his job too.
You can't do anything about the redundancy so try to distract yourself.

Namemechangey · Yesterday 22:10

It’s because you are crossing the boundary of work mate, to making him your emotional support. He is trying to put the boundary back without breaking the friendship.
He is a work friend, not a family member or best friend you can lean on to get over things.
and to be honest saying you had ptsd because you were up for redundancy before and then wasn’t actually fired is extremely dramatic.

this man probably has his own issues and worries about redundancy and you shouldn’t be making him console you constantly.
just be friendly and stay away from the redundancy topic, stick to light conversations and stuff about work.

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 22:13

nomas · Yesterday 22:10

Yes, If someone tells you to stop and you don’t stop, then it’s classed as harassment.

You need to find a new way of channeling your anxiety which doesn’t involve him.

It can be really overwhelming being someone’s constant confidante.

Why don’t you try using Chat GPT? It can respond to all your questions without ever getting tired.

The way he worded it ‘I don’t talk about this anymore’ was a way he uses his own humour, I thought he was joking. I feel sick now, I feel bad if I’ve done this to him. I just hope our friendship / working relationship is ok and he won’t report me to HR

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nomas · Yesterday 22:15

mumlearningtorun · Yesterday 22:13

The way he worded it ‘I don’t talk about this anymore’ was a way he uses his own humour, I thought he was joking. I feel sick now, I feel bad if I’ve done this to him. I just hope our friendship / working relationship is ok and he won’t report me to HR

I don’t think he will report you. Don’t feel sick, just give yourself 10 seconds to think before asking a question on a hot topic.

Maybe send him a text saying sorry for unloading on his and that you’ll rein it in.