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DP has invited his ex wife for Christmas dinner and says I’m being petty

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IcyPortal · Yesterday 19:29

Me and DP are having a bit of an argument about Christmas and I’m starting to wonder if I’m being unreasonable here.

We’ve been together 3 years and live together. I have a DS13 and DD8 from my previous relationship and he has two DDs, 15 and 10, from his marriage. His girls are with us alternate weekends and some of the school holidays. They are coming to us Christmas Eve and staying until Boxing Day this year.

We’d agreed we would have everyone here for Christmas dinner. His brother and my sister were invited as well, so its already going to be quite a full house. I don’t mind that, I like having people round for Christmas and the kids all get on well enough. I am the one who does most of the organising though, sorting food, presents, making sure everyone has got what they need etc. DP will help if I ask him but he isn’t the sort to think ahead about things.

Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner? Apparently he’d invited her because she would otherwise be on her own.

For context she has recently split up with her boyfriend and doesn’t have much family nearby. I do feel sorry for her in that respect and I’m not saying she should have to sit on her own all day if there is another option. But DP had already invited her before even mentioning it to me. I had no idea he was planning this and we hadn’t discussed it at all.

He said he thought it was the right thing to do and the girls would be happy having both their parents there. Which they are, his eldest especially was really pleased when she found out. I haven’t said anything to them about it and wouldn’t want to spoil their Christmas or make them feel like they have to choose between us.

But I don’t really understand why he couldn’t have asked me first? It’s my home as well and I’m going to be doing most of the work on the day. I finish work late on Christmas Eve so there is already going to be a lot to get sorted in a short space of time. I know having one extra person isn’t the end of the world but it isn’t really about the food or having enough chairs. I just feel like he’s made a decision that affects all of us and told me afterwards as though it’s already settled.

When I said I wasn’t comfortable with it he got quite annoyed and said I was being petty and making something nice into an issue. He said it was for the children. I said that I wasn’t stopping his girls seeing their mum. They could see her earlier in the day or he could take them to see her, or she could come over for a bit. I just hadn’t agreed to having her here for the whole dinner.

He then said it would be awkward if she only came for an hour and that the girls wanted her there. I do get that. They are old enough to understand their parents aren’t together but obviously it would be nice for them to have a Christmas where everyone can be in the same room and get along. I am not trying to make things difficult for them.

I don’t think she has done anything wrong either. We are civil when we see each other but we aren’t friends and we don’t socialise together. She’s never been rude to me and I have no reason to think anything is going on between them. They were married for a long time and have children together so obviously they will always have a connection. I’m not asking him to cut her out of their lives.

It is just that he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards. Usually it’s small things and I let it go, but this feels different because Christmas dinner is happening in our house and I’m the one who will be getting everything ready. I feel like if I had invited my ex to spend the day with us without discussing it with him, DP would have something to say about that.

My sister thinks he should have asked me first but says now that the girls are excited I should probably just let it happen. My friend says she wouldn’t have her partner’s ex wife sitting at her Christmas table at all, but I think that’s a bit harsh when she’s recently split up and would be alone otherwise.

I haven’t told DP she can’t come. I just said I wasn’t happy that he had invited her without even asking me, and now he’s acting like I’ve got a problem with his ex when that’s not what I said.

AIBU to think he should have spoken to me before inviting her, or am I making too much of it and should just get on with Christmas?

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theearthsayshello · Yesterday 22:49

This is your life now. You will now spend your life kowtowing to an arsehole and have dragged your kids to live with this arsehole. He puts himself first, then his "ex" and kids, then maybe you, then maybe your kids.

Your daughters will move out asap. You will always be second best.

Your choice is to end the relationship, or to say no and mean it. And then not be moved a single inch.

This is not the first of your battles, obviously. And it won't be the last of many, as he is a thoughtless, selfish arsehole.

This is your life now.

Imseriouslyyouguys · Yesterday 22:49

yanbu, especially as he didn’t ask first - that’s the real issue.

Ask him if he’d enjoy having your ex round for the day without consulting him and while he did all the hosting for your ex.

GCAcademic · Yesterday 22:51

Definitely invite your ex. You have been called petty, after all.

shuggles · Yesterday 22:53

@IcyPortal Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner?

Why did you ask "what do you mean coming for dinner?"

I think it should be very clear what it means when X is coming for dinner. It means that they are going to your house to eat food. It can't mean anything else.

ReadingSoManyThreads · Yesterday 22:54

shuggles · Yesterday 22:53

@IcyPortal Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner?

Why did you ask "what do you mean coming for dinner?"

I think it should be very clear what it means when X is coming for dinner. It means that they are going to your house to eat food. It can't mean anything else.

Not you again 🙄

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PussyGaylore · Yesterday 22:58

Tell him that you don’t mind having her there but you do mind not being involved in the decision. I know a few people who invite their ex around for Xmas if they’ve got kids. It’s great for them and is a good example to them if everyone is civilised. I’d crack on but tell him he must include you in these decisions in future.

MauveLibrary · Yesterday 22:58

Your partner is a first class twatbag cunt. How dare he presume that he can blithely invite the ex wife into your home on Christmas and then expect you fo do the running around and cooking and cleaning.

Fuck that and fuck him for being such a thoughtless twat. If he wants her there then he can now be told that he can deal with the cooking cleaning and preparation.

If he has his way you will end up spending Christmas day as the unpaid skivvy / cook while he plays happy families with his ex and their kids in your home. I would absolutely be making clear to him now that this is not happening. Even if he promises now to do all the hosting and the cooking and the running around, you can bet that when if comes to it he will sulk and refuse to do anything.

FoldItIn · Yesterday 22:59

You need to make a stand here @IcyPortal or he will continue to treat you like you don't matter.
Don't be a doormat. It's never appreciated and people who purport to love you will just escalate their demands. Like your husband just has.

valentinka31 · Yesterday 23:00

He didn’t tell you first because he knew it was iffy and you wouldn’t like it, but he wanted her there for the kids and wanted to be Mr Expansive (aka keeping all his wives happy). You have to now just let her be there. I’d be super nice but probably make sure I was quite draped all over him.

MyFairLady27 · Yesterday 23:02

I get on wonderful with my dh ex wife, do Xmas etc every year. Started of for the kids and ended up being a good friendship. She got married last year and her dh also comes now. I would rather the kids see a happy family trying to get on than war of the roses

theearthsayshello · Yesterday 23:02

FoldItIn · Yesterday 22:59

You need to make a stand here @IcyPortal or he will continue to treat you like you don't matter.
Don't be a doormat. It's never appreciated and people who purport to love you will just escalate their demands. Like your husband just has.

Yep. Nobody at all will remember or care that she broke her back trying to get Christmas organised. And he will keep escalating his demands, as she has shown him he can.

seahorsessky · Yesterday 23:03

He should ask, but unless there's a specific problem with her, I'd ok it. If you were talking about a woman he'd cheated on you with, that is different, but if they'd split up long before you met and there's been nothing between them since, it shouldn't be odd.

Nearly50omg · Yesterday 23:04

Your “d” p has many red flags you’ve ignored or not saying d anything about due to not wanting to cause a fuss… major red flags for abusive coercive controlling behaviour. I’d do a bit of reading up on this if I was you personally and remove yourself and your children away from someone like this! Was your ex abusive as well? We often end up going for the same abusive type again and again until we learn how to change the cycle

Endoadnowarrior · Yesterday 23:10

I consider my exH my family and we regularly do things together with both sides of our shared children's family and my BF.
If parents can be in the same space for special occasions they absolutely should do for their kids.
I do think however he should have mentioned it to you before making the arrangements, but equally I wouldn't make a big deal of it.
If there is no bad blood between them and you and her, and he knows this, maybe he wasnt expecting you to have any issue with it as a concept?

ReadingSoManyThreads · Yesterday 23:12

MyFairLady27 · Yesterday 23:02

I get on wonderful with my dh ex wife, do Xmas etc every year. Started of for the kids and ended up being a good friendship. She got married last year and her dh also comes now. I would rather the kids see a happy family trying to get on than war of the roses

You're missing the point. She said if he'd asked first, she likely would have agreed. It's the fact that he didn't ask, he told her AFTER he'd arranged it, OP will be the one doing all the donkey work, and he argued with her and called her petty just because she wanted the bare minimum of respect and consideration in her relationship.

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 23:12

Endoadnowarrior · Yesterday 23:10

I consider my exH my family and we regularly do things together with both sides of our shared children's family and my BF.
If parents can be in the same space for special occasions they absolutely should do for their kids.
I do think however he should have mentioned it to you before making the arrangements, but equally I wouldn't make a big deal of it.
If there is no bad blood between them and you and her, and he knows this, maybe he wasnt expecting you to have any issue with it as a concept?

It doesn't matter who the guest is - one partner shouldn't be inviting anyone extra to Christmas dinner without consulting the other.

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 23:12

he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards.

So he's done this before, and now it's including major things. That's because you haven't made an issue about it and now when you say anything, he calls you names. That's him trying to get you to back off.

He's in the wrong here. He should have asked if you were comfortable with that instead of presenting you with a done deal. And it's going to get worse now that he's gotten away with this.

You're not friendly with ex. This is going to put an uncomfortable vibe at your dinner in your house. Your "partner" does little, you'll be doing the grunt work. He'll put in your work to please his ex and look like the good guy. He thinks it's ok for you to serve her and cater to her.

Time for that to change. He pays for a home catered dinner for everybody and he's going to be doing the heavy lifting. You work late, you don't have the time or energy.

I'd seriously rethink this relationship. He holds no respect for you and your opinion doesn'tatter and he expects you to jump at his command.

Macinae · Yesterday 23:13

Lots of posters saying how they do Christmas with blended families and that's all well and good but the point is you surely discussed this as a partnership first? OP had this situation thrust upon her without any consideration for her views. She is also somehow expected to do all the heavy lifting on the day. Seriously before you post about how it works well for your families think about whether your situation is remotely comparable to OP's.

Endoadnowarrior · Yesterday 23:16

I disagree, but then thats because I am very much a "more the merrier" type and anyone who would otherwise be unhappily alone is welcome at my table.
I do get why others may find that rude or disrespectful, I just personally wouldn't.

theearthsayshello · Yesterday 23:16

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 23:12

he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards.

So he's done this before, and now it's including major things. That's because you haven't made an issue about it and now when you say anything, he calls you names. That's him trying to get you to back off.

He's in the wrong here. He should have asked if you were comfortable with that instead of presenting you with a done deal. And it's going to get worse now that he's gotten away with this.

You're not friendly with ex. This is going to put an uncomfortable vibe at your dinner in your house. Your "partner" does little, you'll be doing the grunt work. He'll put in your work to please his ex and look like the good guy. He thinks it's ok for you to serve her and cater to her.

Time for that to change. He pays for a home catered dinner for everybody and he's going to be doing the heavy lifting. You work late, you don't have the time or energy.

I'd seriously rethink this relationship. He holds no respect for you and your opinion doesn'tatter and he expects you to jump at his command.

Yes, he's training her to shut up and do as she is told, and the training has been going well up until now.

And her daughters get to see their mother being trained to be a good, obedient servant too, and to understand their place in the pecking order, which is at the bottom as their stepfather holds all the power.

Mumofoneandone · Yesterday 23:23

As he has form for this behaviour I think I would not be backing down from saying that his ex is not coming to Christmas dinner. His behaviour towards you when you call him out on something is concerning.
At some point he has got to understand that he can't just agree to someone with his ex and then tell you!
There is an established pattern to Christmas arrangements between him and his ex. Whilst it's a shame his ex has split with her partner, it's not his problem to fix
Alternatively, can you leave him and his family to it and go and stay with your sister for Christmas?
I would also be reconsidering the relationship.

WhatsItAllForAnyway · Yesterday 23:25

CrazyMidget · Yesterday 22:41

The only impure reasons would be if he was still in love with his ex, which doesn't sound likely. Yes, he should have talked to OP, but it's very clear that she would have said no, and would have left someone alone at Christmas while her family celebrates without her, so I'm not sure I blame him. It's Christmas, and he's in the right. OP would love to be included if she was in the ex's position, I'm sure. And she might one day be looking at Christmas alone and be the one grateful for an invitation. As might us all. I do not believe in leaving people you know at home alone on Christmas, if you can invite them.

He knew she would say no, then it's all the more reason not to invite his ex. He's not responsible for her finding something to do on Christmas Day. She wouldn't be alone if they stuck to the usual tradition of the children going to her part of the day and him part of the day.

I have invited people who aren't family to have lunch with us on Christmas Day because I knew they would be alone. So I'm not uncharitable. I think I can see why this guy's first marriage ended.

Awkwardisfunny · Yesterday 23:28

IcyPortal · Yesterday 19:29

Me and DP are having a bit of an argument about Christmas and I’m starting to wonder if I’m being unreasonable here.

We’ve been together 3 years and live together. I have a DS13 and DD8 from my previous relationship and he has two DDs, 15 and 10, from his marriage. His girls are with us alternate weekends and some of the school holidays. They are coming to us Christmas Eve and staying until Boxing Day this year.

We’d agreed we would have everyone here for Christmas dinner. His brother and my sister were invited as well, so its already going to be quite a full house. I don’t mind that, I like having people round for Christmas and the kids all get on well enough. I am the one who does most of the organising though, sorting food, presents, making sure everyone has got what they need etc. DP will help if I ask him but he isn’t the sort to think ahead about things.

Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner? Apparently he’d invited her because she would otherwise be on her own.

For context she has recently split up with her boyfriend and doesn’t have much family nearby. I do feel sorry for her in that respect and I’m not saying she should have to sit on her own all day if there is another option. But DP had already invited her before even mentioning it to me. I had no idea he was planning this and we hadn’t discussed it at all.

He said he thought it was the right thing to do and the girls would be happy having both their parents there. Which they are, his eldest especially was really pleased when she found out. I haven’t said anything to them about it and wouldn’t want to spoil their Christmas or make them feel like they have to choose between us.

But I don’t really understand why he couldn’t have asked me first? It’s my home as well and I’m going to be doing most of the work on the day. I finish work late on Christmas Eve so there is already going to be a lot to get sorted in a short space of time. I know having one extra person isn’t the end of the world but it isn’t really about the food or having enough chairs. I just feel like he’s made a decision that affects all of us and told me afterwards as though it’s already settled.

When I said I wasn’t comfortable with it he got quite annoyed and said I was being petty and making something nice into an issue. He said it was for the children. I said that I wasn’t stopping his girls seeing their mum. They could see her earlier in the day or he could take them to see her, or she could come over for a bit. I just hadn’t agreed to having her here for the whole dinner.

He then said it would be awkward if she only came for an hour and that the girls wanted her there. I do get that. They are old enough to understand their parents aren’t together but obviously it would be nice for them to have a Christmas where everyone can be in the same room and get along. I am not trying to make things difficult for them.

I don’t think she has done anything wrong either. We are civil when we see each other but we aren’t friends and we don’t socialise together. She’s never been rude to me and I have no reason to think anything is going on between them. They were married for a long time and have children together so obviously they will always have a connection. I’m not asking him to cut her out of their lives.

It is just that he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards. Usually it’s small things and I let it go, but this feels different because Christmas dinner is happening in our house and I’m the one who will be getting everything ready. I feel like if I had invited my ex to spend the day with us without discussing it with him, DP would have something to say about that.

My sister thinks he should have asked me first but says now that the girls are excited I should probably just let it happen. My friend says she wouldn’t have her partner’s ex wife sitting at her Christmas table at all, but I think that’s a bit harsh when she’s recently split up and would be alone otherwise.

I haven’t told DP she can’t come. I just said I wasn’t happy that he had invited her without even asking me, and now he’s acting like I’ve got a problem with his ex when that’s not what I said.

AIBU to think he should have spoken to me before inviting her, or am I making too much of it and should just get on with Christmas?

I do think it's nice if 'split' families can come together for the sake of the children but it's a separate issue. Your partner should have agreed it with you first. He isn't showing respect by agreeing things privately with his ex and then letting you in on the plan. It's your home, your holiday and your right to say no. It sounds like you wouldn't have said no but that's not the point.

I would tell him you want to talk about why he keeps disrespecting you like that.

Endorewitch · Yesterday 23:28

Pumpkinsaregrowingnicely · Yesterday 19:32

Well obviously he is doing all the hosting..step back and enjoy the day with your dc. Even if that means you go out with them..visit a friend or family
1st Jan I'd be reconsidering my future...

That is not helpful. Abd such an overreaction. Of course she is upset .He should have discussed it with her.But to suggest she reconsiders her future i like capital punishment for breaking abd entering an empty house.