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Single dad looking for advice about birthday party issue.

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tomWh · Yesterday 13:39

Hello

I am a single dad with a 6 (almost 7) year-old daughter, and I am currently organizing her birthday party, a traditional party with a bouncy castle, inflatables etc.

The plan was for a whole class party, but I am very worried about one little boy who has autism. It sounds harsh, but he ruins every child's birthday he gets invited to the latest one was only a few weeks ago. He caused chaos and, honestly, the day was spoiled as he ended up upsetting a lot of the other children. He screamed around the whole place, demanding the music be stopped as he couldn't cope with it. He threw toys at people (breaking some of them), he hit other children and had a massive meltdown when the cake started to be cut as he wanted it to be whole, and when given a slice of cake, he proceeded to launch it across the room whilst also kicking one of the food tables, sending some of it flying

The parents of the birthday boy were understandably annoyed that the day was being ruined and the mother of the boy causing the issues doesn't deal with it very well. .Now to be fair, I can't imagine how difficult her daily life is dealing with this behavior, but she just has the belief that, as he has autism, we should be accepting of his issues and let it be, and she is very vocal that he should never be left out of something simply because he has auitms she will try and gently ask him to stop the behavior and when things get really bad she will try and hold him in one place for a moment, but that's pretty much it

Now I agree it is awful for the little boy, but he has been extremely violent towards my daughter on several occasions and I can't see the point of spending all this money on a birthday party just for him to have a chance to spoil yet another party, but I also don't think its fair not to throw my daughter a party because of one child now I will be printing off the invitations today ready to handed out on Monday and I don't what to do as excluding him seems cruel, but I don't see him behaving at my daughter's party any different than he has all the others, and I'm dreading another party full of injured crying and scared kids.

What would you do? Any advice on approaching the mum would also be appreciated, but I would say she's not all that open about discussing her son and just believes he should be at everything no matter the chaos it causes.

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demantoid · Yesterday 15:37

tomWh · Yesterday 15:35

Enough adults will be at the party, all class parties are very common for this class.

Where is it being held? A venue, or have you got 19 kids, a bouncy castle, inflatables, food tables etc and a bunch of adults in your garden?

SoThatsTheWayItIs · Yesterday 15:40

demantoid · Yesterday 15:37

Where is it being held? A venue, or have you got 19 kids, a bouncy castle, inflatables, food tables etc and a bunch of adults in your garden?

Edited

Does it matter?

Favouritefruits · Yesterday 15:40

You can’t invite the whole class bar 1 child, that’s awful! Bouncy castles get overwhelming anyway so prob better to just go with half the class, surely she doesn’t play with everyone anyway? I’ve got a child with SEN and turn down parties I know he won’t cope with, it makes me sad to think I have to hide him from society but I’m old enough to know people don’t understand him and they want their parties without him.

hewasflirtingwithbeverleymacca · Yesterday 15:40

Hadenough32 · Yesterday 13:48

I disagree I'm a mother of an adopted child with some quite severe behavioural issues..I decline party invites. He doesn't cope it's that simple. I also don't think it's fair for one kid to ruin anything whatever their additional need is. Just don't invite him. Let the mum know if she asks that you think he doesn't cope. If my son asks why I've not taken him to parties I point out the way he has previously behaved at them. That's his learning curve. It should not be at the expense of the other kids.

Spot on! I stopped taking my autistic child to parties years ago. It isn’t fair on them and it isn’t fair on everyone else.

MargeryBargery · Yesterday 15:41

Your message was perfect .
The reality is what it is, it's absolute nonsense for anyone to wring their hands about excluding one child in these circumstances.

The behaviour described at previous parties shows that the child is not enjoying himself and simply cannot cope in these social situations.
This is something his parents must accept and deal with.

YourWildAmberSloth · Yesterday 15:41

Also I've just read the message you sent about invites being given out on Monday. I'm sure it goes without saying not to do this in front of the boy who isn't invited. Ideally hand them to the parents, not the children. FWIW I think you've made the right decision.

demantoid · Yesterday 15:41

SoThatsTheWayItIs · Yesterday 15:40

Does it matter?

It doesn't 'matter' one bit, but it's relevant to my own thoughts on it, which is why I'm asking.

Mamma18282 · Yesterday 15:42

Parent of an autistic child who couldn’t cope with large classes and I chose not to take him
to some parties. The mum is wrong - her autistic child doesn’t need to be included in everything, especially stuff that he can’t cope with. She should be asking for accommodations to be made so that he can cope, so a quiet room at the party, a detailed party schedule to manage transitions, a menu and a photo of the cake, whatever helps to make transitions easier so he can enjoy it with the rest. Having said that it doesn’t always work and there’s a lot of events you can’t attend.

But I think excluding one child out of a whole class is pretty cruel and the message is callous. I would have invited half the class - there’s plenty of parties throughout the year, no one is missing out and your daughter will barely remember who attended, but the little
boy and his mum will always remember this.

Swanned · Yesterday 15:42

Hearts4Chesney · Yesterday 13:41

I have autism myself OP, but I do sympathize with you.

Can you make it a girls only party?

This is a great idea!

SoThatsTheWayItIs · Yesterday 15:44

demantoid · Yesterday 15:41

It doesn't 'matter' one bit, but it's relevant to my own thoughts on it, which is why I'm asking.

Can’t see what critical difference it makes just looks like you are fishing to find something to criticise.

NiftyKoala · Yesterday 15:46

Hadenough32 · Yesterday 13:48

I disagree I'm a mother of an adopted child with some quite severe behavioural issues..I decline party invites. He doesn't cope it's that simple. I also don't think it's fair for one kid to ruin anything whatever their additional need is. Just don't invite him. Let the mum know if she asks that you think he doesn't cope. If my son asks why I've not taken him to parties I point out the way he has previously behaved at them. That's his learning curve. It should not be at the expense of the other kids.

Agreed. Violence is not ok sn or not. OP won't be the first or last to skip this child's invite. If anything a good teaching moment for her child. There were parties my child was not invited to for similar, but mon violent. I was sad for her but understood completely.

RaisingMaine · Yesterday 15:46

demantoid · Yesterday 15:41

It doesn't 'matter' one bit, but it's relevant to my own thoughts on it, which is why I'm asking.

I think it's relevant as well. OP, where is the party being held?

Swanned · Yesterday 15:47

@tomWh you could be honest with the mum; hand deliver the invitation at pick-up and tell her that her son is invited but due to him ruining previous parties you would prefer that he didn’t come. You will leave his attendance as her decision though.

That would take a lot of back bone to say though.

demantoid · Yesterday 15:47

SoThatsTheWayItIs · Yesterday 15:44

Can’t see what critical difference it makes just looks like you are fishing to find something to criticise.

Don't be daft. I asked a perfectly normal question about where the party is being held.

Abbybright · Yesterday 15:47

Swanned · Yesterday 15:47

@tomWh you could be honest with the mum; hand deliver the invitation at pick-up and tell her that her son is invited but due to him ruining previous parties you would prefer that he didn’t come. You will leave his attendance as her decision though.

That would take a lot of back bone to say though.

OP has already messaged her. He’s not invited.

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · Yesterday 15:48

Swanned · Yesterday 15:42

This is a great idea!

But her best friend happens to be a boy.

If you had a really unpleasant, negative uncle who expected to be invited to yours on Christmas Day (and mar it for everybody), would you deal with it by randomly declaring it a female-only day - and telling your DH, DS, DB and any other lovely male family members that they couldn't be there, but your DIL, DSis and their DDs could all come?

Swanned · Yesterday 15:49

Abbybright · Yesterday 15:47

OP has already messaged her. He’s not invited.

Thanks for the update.

So what’s the issue now then?

Merryoldgoat · Yesterday 15:49

Swanned · Yesterday 15:42

This is a great idea!

Not it’s not - it’s a rubbish idea and diminishes what his daughter wants for her birthday.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 15:50

Daria32 · Yesterday 13:43

You can’t exclude one child from a whole class party. Either invite him or just invite the girls

You absolutely can when that child has been repeatedly violent towards your own.

Abbybright · Yesterday 15:51

Swanned · Yesterday 15:49

Thanks for the update.

So what’s the issue now then?

He messaged her during the thread, you can read his updates to catch up.

Swanned · Yesterday 15:51

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · Yesterday 15:48

But her best friend happens to be a boy.

If you had a really unpleasant, negative uncle who expected to be invited to yours on Christmas Day (and mar it for everybody), would you deal with it by randomly declaring it a female-only day - and telling your DH, DS, DB and any other lovely male family members that they couldn't be there, but your DIL, DSis and their DDs could all come?

For the giggles I might! 😂

RumPidgeon · Yesterday 15:51

SockPlant · Yesterday 13:52

Call the mum. Explain that he can come if she is on him like glue and at the first sign of anything you will ask them both to leave.

Be firm. Tell her the last party was ruined and you don't want that for your DDs party, but that you also want to give him a chance to learn how to behave in social situations. Be kind. Be clear. Be very firm.

Whilst I like the idea I think the mother just hasn’t got a grasp on the concept of this or she would have done this already. She sounds “soft” and is unable to contain him.

OP, you are paying for this and it’s your little girl’s party. You don’t want your daughter on edge or other kids potentially not attending if they find out that child is coming as well. I’d text or speak to the other mum and explain your reasoning but be clear he’s not invited because of previous behaviour.

Swanned · Yesterday 15:51

Abbybright · Yesterday 15:51

He messaged her during the thread, you can read his updates to catch up.

Edited

Think I will. Cheers.

HenriettaHippopotamus · Yesterday 15:52

Is there a chance she won’t find out? Given the parents are aware their child is scared of her boy I imagine none are that friendly with her? If she finds out she won’t know everyone was invited. My son never tells me anything about school so it could be hers is the same if he were to hear about a party.

If I were you I’d just invite who you want and have your explanation ready were she to confront you.

Edit: Sorry just saw update that you sent the message after I posted this. Good luck hopefully engaging with her works out for you

Lizzysunshine · Yesterday 15:52

My son has profound autism and learning disabilities. When we get invited to parties, I always turn them down but am very thankful to the person who’s included him. He’s an absolute sweetheart most of the time but has significant needs and I’d never ever want his needs to cost a birthday child their special day, so I don’t take the risk.
I’m surprised his mum brings him to the parties if this is how he behaves! And it’s put you in a very difficult situation but ultimately it’s your daughters day and you need to do what’s best for her

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