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Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

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JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 20:28

As the title says. I live in a Victorian mid-terrace, wall-to-wall, garden-to-garden with an asylum seeker dispersal HMO. They were moved in nearly two years ago, replacing a multi-generation family that were living there before.
There is another HMO directly opposite my house, where asylum seekers get rooms once they are approved to remain but don't have an income to support themselves.

Not AIBU but more like AMA. I'm wondering what people would ask me if they really could ask anything. Does anyone actually want to know what it is like? I hear a lot of political point scoring in the media regarding this topic but no one actually talks to people like me!

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 19:52

@Whoopiedooo Thanks for posting OP. Do they seem to be friendly between themselves when of apparently different nationalities, and do other asylum seekers come to visit and party with them?
What do your other neighbours think?

No one had asked this yet. Doesn't look to me like they get on very well if there is any chance of a cultural clash! I think that's been understood now so the contractors try to house East Africans mostly together. The younger lads from Eritrea and Sudan seem to get on grand - like a student house! There was an older Afghani man with them and the arguments were going off all the time. A lot of shouting and swearing! The Afghani bloke was quite a bit of a pain for me too - he liked VERY loud Islamic kind of music but he was probably doing that to annoy his housemates. He was then rehoused somewhere to have a "place to himself" (said by the interpreter).
Yes, they do get visitors. With cars sometimes. Some seem to tap right into some kind of existing network

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 20:03

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 18:50

I think everyone is quite worried for you, OP. Your situation is both awful and unfair. Housing standards need to be raised and dispersal needs to be widespread. My MC neighbourhood ought to house a few asylum seekers. We have a nice B&B in the area, not too big.

Do you think proper enforcement would make a difference?

Yes, more of an oversight would definitely help.
Honestly, NO ONE comes round for months on end to check on them.
And it would be very nice to be given a contact number for someone in MEARS to report a concern. If their house floods mine or I have a noise or rubbish complaint, I have completely no one to contact. I have to wait for the things to get bad enough for the Environmental Health to get involved.

All that talk about "keeping communities involved and neighbours informed" is complete bollocks.

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SadieandLucy · 25/09/2026 20:03

CremeDeMure · 25/09/2026 12:22

Whoever they were, they weren't British.

They certainly were British, I am still friends with the Colonel and his wife. Why do you think that you can read something and it will automatically be truer than someone who was there at the time? They were a British Army Training Team. Don't say "well they weren't "proper" British Army" because I think they would be very pissed off with you as they were.

LifeIsAMeatball · 25/09/2026 20:12

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 22:19

I've screwed the hatch shut for the time being but I'll have to go and build a stud wall up there.

I would be asking to see their risk assessment around this. Ask enough awkward questions and they will build your wall.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 20:25

LifeIsAMeatball · 25/09/2026 20:12

I would be asking to see their risk assessment around this. Ask enough awkward questions and they will build your wall.

Thank you. Will try!

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 21:00

I have another 3 or 5 years to go, depending on the MEARS contract. I'll update in another couple of years on how it's going and if THE WALL was built 😀

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MustTryHarderAndHarder · 25/09/2026 21:08

So I can hear things translated into English and I won't even go into what I've heard there, not to aggravate anyone

What you mean by this? Who would it aggravate?

Who cleans the houses? Do the tenants have to clean them themselves.

Do you mind me asking what sort of age you are?

Also, did all your neighbors sell up at the same time or was it gradually over a few years?

I really feel for what you are going through. There are lots of petitions at the moment in in an area near me in Hertfordshire called Potter's Bar where lots of houses have been turned into hmos.

Pumpkindice · 25/09/2026 21:50

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 18:27

I've read some comments where posters clearly don't seem to understand the level of proximity I have!
That shared alley, for example,is not fenced off from their garden. If I go in there, I'm basically in their garden. That is why I never take my bins out at night, only at 7am in the morning.
I can hear all the conversations at the back. I can hear everything in my house. I can hear when their phone vibrates and gets a text. I check if it was mine 😂
I can hear the alley door every time it opens and closes.
When they speak with case workers, they often use an interpreter over the phone. So I can hear things translated into English and I won't even go into what I've heard there, not to aggravate anyone.

This is the problem : the posh people pissing about whining about asylum seekers in military barracks somewhere two fields away... Whilst I'm disbelieved and told to shut up and love my neighbours whilst I'm practically sharing my showers with them all 😂
The Bourgeois loons!

I've lived in dodgy house shares, long before HMO rules, and I haven't accidentally overheard as many conversations as you have OP, or read as much personal documentation as you have, or had people tell me so much about their life history, despite ten residents sharing a single kitchen. It's really quite remarkable, unbelievable almost. Well, not almost. Just the first bit.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 21:50

@MustTryHarderAndHarder

It's just that case workers are nearly always these young, kind women who lay all sorts of housing and charity help options out and then they very calmly accept whatever nonsense arguments come back. Like there was a man being offered a 1 bedroom flat (I don't know the context why) but he kept on shouting that he wants a "whole house". She then tried to explain it is "all to himself" but he still insisted on a house!
She was so lovely and accommodating that I had to remove myself before I shout over :shut the fuck up with the whining and take the bloody flat!!! I'm wondering what the interpreter would make of that 😂

It just stresses me out the case/care workers bending over backwards...Because I have been homeless myself with a small child after domestic violence. I walked into a dirty house with no bed sheets, no internet, no cutlery, no food and with no money. I was told to go to a food bank if I have nothing, and my god was I reminded every week that I have to get out asap or I'll get charged a nightly rate and get in debt.

Gets to me that seemingly these men get treated better than homeless children. Just hits on a personal note.

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 21:52

Pumpkindice · 25/09/2026 21:50

I've lived in dodgy house shares, long before HMO rules, and I haven't accidentally overheard as many conversations as you have OP, or read as much personal documentation as you have, or had people tell me so much about their life history, despite ten residents sharing a single kitchen. It's really quite remarkable, unbelievable almost. Well, not almost. Just the first bit.

AHH..just go away. You don't have to be here with your nonsense.

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Maomee · 25/09/2026 21:54

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 21:50

@MustTryHarderAndHarder

It's just that case workers are nearly always these young, kind women who lay all sorts of housing and charity help options out and then they very calmly accept whatever nonsense arguments come back. Like there was a man being offered a 1 bedroom flat (I don't know the context why) but he kept on shouting that he wants a "whole house". She then tried to explain it is "all to himself" but he still insisted on a house!
She was so lovely and accommodating that I had to remove myself before I shout over :shut the fuck up with the whining and take the bloody flat!!! I'm wondering what the interpreter would make of that 😂

It just stresses me out the case/care workers bending over backwards...Because I have been homeless myself with a small child after domestic violence. I walked into a dirty house with no bed sheets, no internet, no cutlery, no food and with no money. I was told to go to a food bank if I have nothing, and my god was I reminded every week that I have to get out asap or I'll get charged a nightly rate and get in debt.

Gets to me that seemingly these men get treated better than homeless children. Just hits on a personal note.

Working in a different support role of similar people, I can confirm that the spoonfeeding is on a different level

Uset · 25/09/2026 21:56

Feel sorry for you op

Pumpkindice · 25/09/2026 22:00

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 21:52

AHH..just go away. You don't have to be here with your nonsense.

I'll look forward to tomorrow's update where you start telling us how much each of your neighbours weighed at birth, the story behind their names and exactly how many of our good British women they've slept with, just to get everyone that bit more frothy. It's Friday night Mumsnet ofc.

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 22:03

@MustTryHarderAndHarder
They clean their house. I can hear the hoover and the washing machines going. They seem quite tidy but the garden is treated in a very different way. Lots of cooking from scratch and it smells very tasty 🙂

I'm just about hanging onto my 30s.
I have a son who mostly stays with his dad as I don't want him to be around all the drug activity (asylum seekers play only a small part) and think it is normal.

The root to all the current issues was laid 20 years ago when masses of houses were converted for student use. I arrived to see the worst of the decline with the Supported Accommodation (addicts, criminals) and Asylum Contracts replacing the students.

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 22:17

Pumpkindice · 25/09/2026 22:00

I'll look forward to tomorrow's update where you start telling us how much each of your neighbours weighed at birth, the story behind their names and exactly how many of our good British women they've slept with, just to get everyone that bit more frothy. It's Friday night Mumsnet ofc.

The story behind names could be a nice thing to ask actually. It is something they nearly always ask me.
We don't talk about sex and I try to steer conversations away from relationships generally. I always remind them that I'm "old" even if I look much younger and that I have a teenager. Seems to work just fine.

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5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:21

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 14:50

If their claim is not granted they exist in a kind of half acknowledged existence. They rely on the kindness of charities, except when they have an active appeal ( and are classified as asylum seekers)

Refused asylum seekers have No Recourse to Public Funds, no right to employment, no access to housing ( except through the kindness of others) no access to the banking system, etc. They can access only primary NHS care (ie register with a GP, receive vaccinations, etc).

There is some access to education, which is a human right. Families with young children may receive further assistance.

Where on earth did you get the idea that ‘most’ refused asylum seekers are eligible for UC?

Refused asylum seekers shouldn't be in the country. They should be deported. They certainly shouldn't get access to any of our services and resources including GP appointments.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:31

Boomer55 · 25/09/2026 12:49

These are the facts about what asylum seekers can get, until they have been given right to remain (if they have).

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

That's actually a pretty generous package. And the UK grants LTR at double the rate of France, so most of the young males that rock up on our shores will be granted LTR, especially once they've gone through appeals with activist lawyers. So then they're classed as refugees, able to bring their families over which gives them priority for social housing and the ability to claim the full range of benefits.

In the unlikely event that their claim is disallowed they won't get deported and can easily slip into the grey economy.

The pull factors for any young male to break into soft touch UK are enormous.

DownToTheGround · Yesterday 09:33

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:21

Refused asylum seekers shouldn't be in the country. They should be deported. They certainly shouldn't get access to any of our services and resources including GP appointments.

An improving picture.

Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything
5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:54

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 18:50

I think everyone is quite worried for you, OP. Your situation is both awful and unfair. Housing standards need to be raised and dispersal needs to be widespread. My MC neighbourhood ought to house a few asylum seekers. We have a nice B&B in the area, not too big.

Do you think proper enforcement would make a difference?

Yes, I think middle class neighbourhoods should house more than 'a few' asylum seekers. I think they should accommodate them all. Let's put all the HMOs, hotels and barracks for asylum seekers in nice, safe middle class neighbourhoods.

That would change the narrative so fast, our heads would spin. The open borders / refugees welcome lobby would largely cease to exist and then we could shut down this racket once and for all.

poetryandwine · Yesterday 10:11

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 09:21

Refused asylum seekers shouldn't be in the country. They should be deported. They certainly shouldn't get access to any of our services and resources including GP appointments.

The reality is that they aren’t deported, though. There is right of appeal, which is a more careful, nonpolitical judicial process with a good success rate, and there are other complications and inconsistencies.

Perhaps HMG should work out and publicise a coherent policy on deportations consistent with the UN Convention on Human Rights. It is not clear what that policy would be.

Denying basic healthcare to anyone on these shores is not only inhumane, it is an own goal when it comes to containing infectious disease.

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 10:23

poetryandwine · Yesterday 10:11

The reality is that they aren’t deported, though. There is right of appeal, which is a more careful, nonpolitical judicial process with a good success rate, and there are other complications and inconsistencies.

Perhaps HMG should work out and publicise a coherent policy on deportations consistent with the UN Convention on Human Rights. It is not clear what that policy would be.

Denying basic healthcare to anyone on these shores is not only inhumane, it is an own goal when it comes to containing infectious disease.

Great, so the pull factors remain, the racket continues, the poorest are affected the most. If only the government could get people to shut up about it, everything would be fine and dandy.

JapanesePotWeed · Yesterday 10:56

It is probably quite telling that the asylum seeker men I have talked to have never mentioned such a concept as "being sent back".
I said up thread that I don't pry into asylum part of things and I don't but we talk freely about countries, families and whether they like UK and this city/street. Some tell me where they plan on going from here and they all think that they'll be given somewhere permanent.The longest I've talked to someone was 2h! I was pretty much captive audience whilst painting windows of my house. Still nothing about war, persecutions or deportations.
The dude did tell me that he doesn't like my house. He doesn't like English houses at all because they are all old. And he wrinkled up his face. I appreciate the honesty 😂

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poetryandwine · Yesterday 12:01

5MinuteArgument · Yesterday 10:23

Great, so the pull factors remain, the racket continues, the poorest are affected the most. If only the government could get people to shut up about it, everything would be fine and dandy.

Hopefully properly dispersing asylum housing will help a lot. I don’t think it should all be in middle class areas but I think a fair portion of it should be. Also a fair portion should be in upper class areas - the issue is for the whole of society. Then let the consequences play out.

My hope is that we will find a way to come to a humane but not stupid conclusion.

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 13:35

DownToTheGround · Yesterday 09:33

An improving picture.

This doesn't show data on the number of who have subsequently returned via all possible routes. We've already seen the 'one in, one out' policy has been a resounding failure.

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 13:44

poetryandwine · 25/09/2026 18:50

I think everyone is quite worried for you, OP. Your situation is both awful and unfair. Housing standards need to be raised and dispersal needs to be widespread. My MC neighbourhood ought to house a few asylum seekers. We have a nice B&B in the area, not too big.

Do you think proper enforcement would make a difference?

You do know that you can choose to house asylum seekers in your own home? If you believe there should be more in your area, why aren't you doing more to faciltate that?